Why Putin will invade Ukraine: Putin’s 40 year Master-plan

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[jhungary]

Alexander Dugins master plan has some major holes. First he selceted Japan and we all know it is gonna be China..

2. Second of all he went with Iran a major gaffe and geopolitical suicide and finally and not least he has threatened two vaste civlizations simultaneous despite even enlisting China as cannon fodder they will be defeated.. Going against a combined western-Sunni allies. They expand into vaste civilizations and to be honest both these sides are being pushed together to become strong allies. As you can see they are coming together slowly with the Abraham accords, NATO major allies being offered to many of them etc etc and access to weapons sales on both sides.

The West knows it can't survive a Russian lead bloc including China, North Korea etc etc especially Europe stands weak because the Eurasian continent is connected meaning China and it's vastness can deploy in th eastern European frontline and Russia has more nukes and would batter the Europeans together with a vaste endless Chinese forces..

EU will lose an all out war Against combined Russia and China including North Korea cannon fodders on European soil due to Eurasian land connection and no it is not only based on conventional forces but Russia will simply put batter Western europe with tactical nukes and nukes and then unleash an endless amount of Chinese hordes on top of being battered with Russian nukes it is a forgone conclusion Europe will be battered. India is not exactly a trustworthy partner in the east they will likely sit out and beg china for mercy.. The Americans know the Indians are allies but useless when it matters most hence the US and the West only credibly allies for the western survival is the Sunni axis as Iran is clearly on the otherside of the fence.. The Sunni axis is vaste expanse, economically strong and militarily solid and spread out fighting them on multiple frontlines will easily shift the conflict.

The West knows that in a WW3 scenario where Russia, China and North Korea are on one side against the EU.. They will be defeated comfortably and not even a close defeat but a landslide.. The US will have issues coming into Europe logisitically because it is so far away but the Chinese can bring in hordes upon hordes easily to the Eastern European frontæine and eventually advance into central and western after a complete battering by Russian nukes..

If EU and west europe is defeated on European soil it will be the end of the western civilization and the USA has western elements but entirely west it is a multi-racial country and they will also be descandants of the western civilization but the western civilization if they are defeated in WW3 on European soil but this specific axis who in my opinion are the landslide favourites if they collide. All tho the war has not taken place but they are clearly the underdogs in such a fight on European soil

Geopolitically, Russia at best could hope for after this war is similar to US-UK relationship after WW2 with China, and that's the best-case scenario.

In brief, unless China can overtake US + EU economically, Russia will probably cease to exist as an entity 40 years afterward. They will either become literal part of China, or a Vassal State of China, and that is if China take up that offer to begin with.

If you look at the China - Russia dynamic, you will see the relationship starting now is one direction. China give order, Russia take them. There is nothing benefit China keeping Russia at its hand apart from they will swing 6,000 more nuke to China if Russia indeed seeking a normalisation with the West. That's the dilemma China have at hand right now.

On the other hand, Nuke will NOT be used in a wider European War. and as I said before, and I will say this again, if Russia did use nuke, Strategic or Tactical or otherwise, the response is almost guaranteed a nuclear Armageddon. Now, Putin may see things went to shit and do it anyway, but will China see the same thing? I mean. That's not going to be the case if they want to enjoy at lease some degree of freedom and domination in the region, and are Chinese supposed to give it up for Putin, a nobody in Xi's eyes, ambition?

On the other hand, who would actually won WW3? I will say everybody lose.

 

[Battlion25]

Geopolitically, Russia at best could hope for after this war is similar to US-UK relationship after WW2 with China, and that's the best-case scenario.

In brief, unless China can overtake US + EU economically, Russia will probably cease to exist as an entity 40 years afterward. They will either become literal part of China, or a Vassal State of China, and that is if China take up that offer to begin with.

If you look at the China - Russia dynamic, you will see the relationship starting now is one direction. China give order, Russia take them. There is nothing benefit China keeping Russia at its hand apart from they will swing 6,000 more nuke to China if Russia indeed seeking a normalisation with the West. That's the dilemma China have at hand right now.

On the other hand, Nuke will NOT be used in a wider European War. and as I said before, and I will say this again, if Russia did use nuke, Strategic or Tactical or otherwise, the response is almost guaranteed a nuclear Armageddon. Now, Putin may see things went to shit and do it anyway, but will China see the same thing? I mean. That's not going to be the case if they want to enjoy at lease some degree of freedom and domination in the region, and are Chinese supposed to give it up for Putin, a nobody in Xi's eyes, ambition?

On the other hand, who would actually won WW3? I will say everybody lose.

Someone will eventually win despite agreeing with you that on the grand scale of things everyone will lose but trust me the gloves will come off in WW3 and there will be no rules of engagement a literal dog eat dog. They will kill each other until someone gains the power and takes the new world hegemony power then the world will return into harmony and will begin a new epoch..

The political landscape is always a mess but Russia has an axis which is what gave them the confidence to proceed with the war.

If you put couple of cats in a small bag with a meat-grinder fight in mind something gotta give eventually

 

[jhungary]

Someone will eventually win despite agreeing with you that on the grand scale of things everyone will lose but trust me the gloves will come off in WW3 and there will be no rules of engagement a literal dog eat dog. They will kill each other until someone gains the power and takes the new world hegemony power then the world will return into harmony and will begin a new epoch..

The political landscape is always a mess but Russia has an axis which is what gave them the confidence to proceed with the war.

If you put couple of cats in a small bag with a meat-grinder fight in mind something gotta give eventually

I personally have seen enough small-scale war to know even then, nobody wins.

and you are talking about the next big one.

What I will say is, you only have this view because you had probably never experience total destruction and what war bring to a country, no matter how big or small, and in my heart, I will wish you will never have to see what I had saw as a soldier fought in a war. But if you had seen the destruction of war and still held this view, then you are probably crazier than me. That is what I am going to say about WW3.

The rest we can agree to disagree.