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If I remember correctly, A. P. J. Abdul Kalam was described the Turks as invaders in his one of article. There are strange perspectives that emphasize the diversity within itself, but which treat the outside world with a wholesale approach.
India flaunts its "diversity" as a marketing weapon, but this "diversity" is simply an extended caste hierarchy, where the Brahmins sit at the top, the traditional castes know their place, and a number of subsidiary religious or ethnic groups including sikhs, parsees and Buddhists fulfil specific roles but still under the overall auspices of the Brahmins.

Because Christians and Muslims ruled Hindustan for significant periods of time and kept Brahmins under their control, a special hatred is reserved for them due to the ongoing inferiority complex. Christians are targeted less presently simply because more Muslims are around and Muslims will eventually fight back, hence are seen as the greatest "threat" to brahministan demographically.

I wish it were more complex and intriguing than this Nazi crap, but it truly is just this simple. Muslims, Mughals and Pakistanis are an OBSESSION for Brahmins. Turkey are an extension of that obsession.

Note how vitriolic and vehemently their description of immigrant Muslims in Assam and Bengal as "invaders" or "infiltrators" comes across as sounding. It isn't enough to call them illegal immigrants like mature politicians might in normal countries. They have to call these human beings derogatory terms like termites or infiltrators. Listening to the acrid venomous acid spitting out of their Nazi mouths makes me want to punch my tv, even though I care little for assamese Muslims....but they're still human beings with families. I hope Amit Shah chokes on his vile fat stubby tongue. What a rancid little man.
 
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It's true that China and Malaysia also spoke at the UN about Kashmir besides Turkey. However, we have already made moves against China in the past by engaging with their enemies/rivals like Japan, USA, Vietnam, Australia etc.

We are just doing the same with Turkey now. It is required.

Why not Malaysia you may ask ? Well because it's mostly Mahathir who is a senile old Islamist who has an Anti-India policy. Prior to him, Malaysia had a neutral policy vis a vis India Pak issues. He is 94 and only an interim PM. He will be gone in the next couple of years after which Malaysia will revert to its neutral stance. Therefore, no need to act against Malaysia.

China and Turkey are different simply cause they have, as a matter of state policy always supported Pakistan against India, irrespective of which leader or government is in power.
 
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Go cry over it hindus.

Also be the way Indian Muslims helped Turkey in its independance war there is no proof of hindus or sikhs helping us. So stop apporiating Indian Muslims help.

Muslims of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh helped the Turks at their darkest times.
 
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Go cry over it hindus.

Also be the way Indian Muslims helped Turkey in its independance war there is no proof of hindus or sikhs helping us. So stop apporiating Indian Muslims help.

Muslims of India, Pakistan and Bangladesh helped the Turks at their darkest times.

At that time Hindu legionaries of the Indian colonial state had other problems.

Like this
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The Indian corps has been completely destroyed and this is one of the greatest embarrassments in British history.
 
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At that time Hindu legionaries of the Indian colonial state had other problems.

Like this
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The Indian corps has been completely destroyed and this is one of the greatest embarrassments in British history.

Ahem...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Haifa_(1918)

Battle of Haifa
Part of the Middle Eastern theatre of World War I

Jodhpur lancers (In khaki) and Mysore lancers (In white) marching through Haifa after it was captured
Date 23 September 1918
Location
Haifa, Ottoman Empire (present-day Israel)
Result British Empire victory with Indian States
Territorial
changes
Port changed hands enabling the British to land supplies closer to their front line.
Belligerents
23px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png
British Empire

23px-Flag_of_the_Ottoman_Empire.svg.png
Ottoman Empire
23px-Flag_of_the_German_Empire.svg.png
German Empire
23px-Flag_of_Austria-Hungary_%281869-1918%29.svg.png
Austria-Hungary
Commanders and leaders
Cyril Rodney Harbord
Dalpat Singh Shekhawat Unknown
Units involved
15th (Imperial Service) Cavalry Brigade Haifa garrison
Casualties and losses
8 Indians dead
34 Indians wounded[1] Unknown killed and wounded
Prisoners
2 German officers
23 Ottoman officers
664 other ranks[1]
total: 1,350 prisoners

P.S- Not that this is an achievement. We were a colonised state back then. But still since you posted what you posted to prove some sort of a point perhaps.
 
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Ahem...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Haifa_(1918)

Battle of Haifa
Part of the Middle Eastern theatre of World War I

Jodhpur lancers (In khaki) and Mysore lancers (In white) marching through Haifa after it was captured
Date 23 September 1918
Location
Haifa, Ottoman Empire (present-day Israel)
Result British Empire victory with Indian States
Territorial
changes
Port changed hands enabling the British to land supplies closer to their front line.
Belligerents
23px-Flag_of_the_United_Kingdom.svg.png
British Empire

23px-Flag_of_the_Ottoman_Empire.svg.png
Ottoman Empire
23px-Flag_of_the_German_Empire.svg.png
German Empire
23px-Flag_of_Austria-Hungary_%281869-1918%29.svg.png
Austria-Hungary
Commanders and leaders
Cyril Rodney Harbord
Dalpat Singh Shekhawat Unknown
Units involved
15th (Imperial Service) Cavalry Brigade Haifa garrison
Casualties and losses
8 Indians dead
34 Indians wounded[1] Unknown killed and wounded
Prisoners
2 German officers
23 Ottoman officers
664 other ranks[1]
total: 1,350 prisoners

P.S- Not that this is an achievement. We were a colonised state back then. But still since you posted what you posted to prove some sort of a point perhaps.

You're looking at the wrong title. The this front was lost in the Nablus war. Egyptian Expeditionary Force is the main backbone of the alliance forces in this war. In addition, Arab tribal leaders who rebelled against the Ottoman Empire, provided great benefits to them by means of asymetric-warfare and guerrilla methods. On this front, the legions of the Indian colonial did not play a major role, apart from human source. "Under British commanders"

The Siege of Kut is one of the greatest embarrassments in British history. A whole corps is completely destroyed. Official records show that at least 95% of the power sent here is gone. Many academic circles are said that, this is such a severe defeat, extend the great war for two years.

As a result, Indian colonial troops under the command of England moved to many fronts of the world as a piece of fresh meat in the first world war. You were a prisoner nation fighting for the imperialism of another country. Nothing else.

As far as I know, this british policy ,s one of the reasons that started the Indian independence movement.

But here it was really surprising to see a "Indian" who was proud of the problems of Hindus under the British colony.
 
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You're looking at the wrong title. The this front was lost in the Nablus war. Egyptian Expeditionary Force is the main backbone of the alliance forces in this war. In addition, Arab tribal leaders who rebelled against the Ottoman Empire, provided great benefits to them by means of asymetric-warfare and guerrilla methods. On this front, the legions of the Indian colonial did not play a major role, apart from human source. "Under British commanders"

The Siege of Kut is one of the greatest embarrassments in British history. A whole corps is completely destroyed. Official records show that at least 95% of the power sent here is gone. Many academic circles are said that, this is such a severe defeat, extend the great war for two years.

As a result, Indian colonial troops under the command of England moved to many fronts of the world as a piece of fresh meat in the first world war. You were a prisoner nation fighting for the imperialism of another country. Nothing else.

As far as I know, this british policy ,s one of the reasons that started the Indian independence movement.

But here it was really surprising to see a "Indian" who was proud of the problems of Hindus under the British colony.

Too bad with the siege of Kut the Ottomans failed to get the initiative. It seems ww1 was winnable if only the Central Powers coordinated more. Ottomans did a lot of stupid mistakes like sarimarkish also taking troops away from the middle east to the caucasus front.

Enver Pasha has to be worst commander we ever had in Turkish history.
 
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Too bad with the siege of Kut the Ottomans failed to get the initiative. It seems ww1 was winnable if only the Central Powers coordinated more. Ottomans did a lot of stupid mistakes like sarimarkish also taking troops away from the middle east to the caucasus front.

Enver Pasha has to be worst commander we ever had in Turkish history.

After Germany and Austria lost on all fronts and the British took the Arab world to such a degree of influence, we could not survive for long. Already the state has been fought uninterrupted for 10 years. The only thing we could do was to survive the norms of the nation-state. M.K.Atatürk and his "brother in arms" prevented the total collapse of a nation with this output.
 
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It's true that China and Malaysia also spoke at the UN about Kashmir besides Turkey. However, we have already made moves against China in the past by engaging with their enemies/rivals like Japan, USA, Vietnam, Australia etc.

We are just doing the same with Turkey now. It is required.

Why not Malaysia you may ask ? Well because it's mostly Mahathir who is a senile old Islamist who has an Anti-India policy. Prior to him, Malaysia had a neutral policy vis a vis India Pak issues. He is 94 and only an interim PM. He will be gone in the next couple of years after which Malaysia will revert to its neutral stance. Therefore, no need to act against Malaysia.

China and Turkey are different simply cause they have, as a matter of state policy always supported Pakistan against India, irrespective of which leader or government is in power.

You care too much about this drama heh. Indian diplomatic move is just a standard response to a specific segment of Turkish political leadership...which is different thing to the Turkish people and country.

In the end it is all 1% games...so politicians and media can have some fun and time waste.

99% ppl of Turkey already spoken and shown by free will choice on the issue where it really matters in the end:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indi...ng-up-to-pakistan.637645/page-3#post-11802790

Some super-friend (on the ground as whole) indeed.....halving imports from one party and doubling (esp value added) imports from the other.

You just need to go to Istanbul and interact with regular Turks firsthand....they really dont know or care anything about this pretty irrelevant political drama as far as they are concerned.

Such regular Turks (many whom have left this forum - why is long topic in itself) best moments here were when they call out the funny-fake and/or consistently cringe overdramatic ones:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/pakistani-nationalism-contradictions.589177/page-13#post-10980065

Other variants of such of course persist and cocoon here, since the atmosphere is conducive for largely one side only (since its forum that brings out the chauvinist flair as long as it suits certain agenda). But don't let that colour what the actual reality is out there in real world for regular people as whole....in the end the numbers/evidence on basic things like trade speak much more to that.
 
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You care too much about this drama heh. Indian diplomatic move is just a standard response to a specific segment of Turkish political leadership...which is different thing to the Turkish people and country.

In the end it is all 1% games...so politicians and media can have some fun and time waste.

99% ppl of Turkey already spoken and shown by free will choice on the issue where it really matters in the end:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indi...ng-up-to-pakistan.637645/page-3#post-11802790

Some super-friend (on the ground as whole) indeed.....halving imports from one party and doubling (esp value added) imports from the other.

You just need to go to Istanbul and interact with regular Turks firsthand....they really dont know or care anything about this pretty irrelevant political drama as far as they are concerned.

Such regular Turks (many whom have left this forum - why is long topic in itself) best moments here were when they call out the funny-fake and/or consistently cringe overdramatic ones:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/pakistani-nationalism-contradictions.589177/page-13#post-10980065

Other variants of such of course persist and cocoon here, since the atmosphere is conducive for largely one side only (since its forum that brings out the chauvinist flair as long as it suits certain agenda). But don't let that colour what the actual reality is out there in real world for regular people as whole....in the end the numbers/evidence on basic things like trade speak much more to that.

Islam abuser in rhetoric, Hard-Core Capitalist in action.

It is not coincidence people with intelligence can easliy spot this.

Btw, unfortunate to have been banned in the thread for not detailing the truth.... https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/indi...t-turkey-cosying-up-to-pakistan.637645/page-7
 
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