Why most of muslims afraid of discussing their religion? ?

[My-Analogous]

Hope you don't mind if I give the answer ..The One God Hinduism is referring to is yourself ..Not your body ,mind,intellect,thoughts but the true yourself which is witnessing all this ..

So if you are God by your self then why worship others?. Please give me logical and with vedic reference answered

 

[zip]

Brother, you asked very beautiful question. Please define me you want the answered your question according to Islam only or complete package of different believe also.

I want it according to Islam ..If you mix it up then there will be confusions ..

 

[newb3e]

Generalization of billions of ppl...and just personal anecdotes.

Again...don't generalize billions of Muslims based on ur experience with a few that probably don't even go past double digits. How many scholars/Muslims did u approach? 10? 20? 50?

Asking ppl online is usually not a good idea. Just look at YouTube comments...or PDF...or any other forum. Educated/mannered(of any nationality/religion/ethnicity) ppl are hard to come by.

PDF didn't ban religious discussion out of fear. This is a defence forum. Discussing religion can invite trolls/bigots whose sole purpose is to spew hatred, which would only hurt sentiments and invite more hate speech and bigotry from the opposite side. In terms of discussing defence matters, how would that be good for this forum? It would only degrade its quality further.

As for u only painting discussions about Islam as the only religion that's forbidden from being discussed on PDF...that's simply false. PDF has the same rules for all religions.

On a separate note...it's highly likely that this claim below by u is a lie
"I told them i have already read Quran three time very deeply"
I've seen/read ur posts over the years...and none of that indicates that u have any such understanding of Quran.

he is pdfs fav chu**a please dont expect anything intelligent from him! and replying him is like throwing stone puddle of sewarge water wapis urr keh gund he aye ga!

 

[kalakaar]

Problem is not Muslim discussing Islam, problem is muslim discussing Islam with non Muslims to convince them that Islam is better.

 

[Cookie Monster]

Im not discussing name or periods. Im discussing ideology.
Here im quoting the verse from Chandogya Upnishad 6:2:1
'Ekam evadvitiyam"
'GOD is the only without a second ".

Even bible has one God concept. Islam has no copy right of one God. One God had been sold long before Quran appeared.

Islam doesn't claim to be the only religion that introduced the concept of One God. In Islam the Jews and Christians are acknowledged as the ppl of the book to whom Prophets were sent just like how Muhammad(PBUH) was sent...by the same One true God. This started with Hazrat Adam(AS)...and ended with Prophet Muhammad(PBUH). So idk what u r trying to prove here...ur argument is unfounded.

As for Hinduism having the concept of One God...I'm not sure about how it was historically(bcuz Hinduism has gone through many changes throughout history)
...but as it stands now and in recent history...it's far from a monotheist religion.

 

[zip]

So if you are God by your self then why worship others?. Please give me logical and with vedic reference answered

According to Hinduism there are no others ..It is beginning less ,complete single awareness ..your true self ... According to Hinduism yourself(atman) is not only inside your body but your body is in awareness like all other objects ..This awareness is all pervasive ..This supreme awareness which is within all and all within it is known as Brahman ..

 

[padamchen]

Personally I do not see the hoohaa about discussing your religion and your faith with anyone at all.

And neither should Hindus, who have a similar concept of being born Hindus, with the faith linked to blood. And not human "intervention" if you get my drift.

The only "discussion" comes in with newer insecure faiths that attempt to grow and dominate by numbers and not by the simple unadulterated message of God and the Truth.

These are my personal views of course and no one need have any traction with them.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Cookie Monster]

no one can understand Quran without having faith in his heart. giving it a read doesnt make anybody scholar of Quran.

This is not what I meant. I've read his posts over the years and generally I've found that he has contempt for Islam. So I doubt he actually took the time to read the Quran three times in detail as he is claiming.

Quite interesting that you didn't react to all of my post... Quite interesting...

See... You seek knowledge... But keep quite when I put other groups in it...

He is here with an agenda...which is to make Islam look bad. He is miserably failing...the only one he is fooling is himself.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Note:- this is not a religious thread.

I just want to ask a legal question.

I have never found a Hindu , Christian or jew who afraid of discussing their faith.

I discussed with many of them as i was researching on religions.

Yes... many of them don't have actual knowledge of their own faith but they got never offended but discussed whatever they knew.

But once i was trying to research on Islam and i went to mosques , met many mullahs and scholars. Some of them refused to discuss and told me to read the Quran first. I told them i have already read Quran three time very deeply. Thats why im here bcz it raised many questions in my minds. So i want to discuss it .

They had given me time but never met again on that time.
Then i tried online but onliner muslims gets offended easily and started abusing and run away from discussion.

The best example of my legal question is here on PDF.
PDF itself has banned discussing Islam.
So why Muslims afraid of discussing their faith??
Does muslims afraid of criticism of their religion or fear of Allah raising questions ??
Any idea....?

Asking an indian to discuss Islam with Muslims is EXACTLY the same as expecting a NAZI to discuss Judaism with Jews. You don't discuss your sacred religion with those that wish and advocate for the destruction of your race, RELIGION and nation. It's INSANE to do so.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

OP is a retard and troll to be honest.

 

[zip]

So if you are God by your self then why worship others?. Please give me logical and with vedic reference answered

There are different ways to get in to supreme awareness ..Through knowledge,devotion,karma etc .. Different Gods are manifestation of supreme awareness ..You can call it Krishna,shiva or Allah ,all these are names ..A devotee can can do devotion to any manifestation of supreme reality but ultimate truth is one and the same ..Your true self .

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

So who is your one god?. and don't skip my question on Hinduism which lead my to define which only God you are referring according to Hinduism (which itself is group of religion and i am interested that finally which God you guys are agreed upon)

The supreme GOD. Hinduism believes in One supreme God who has no shape.
I answered your question already with proof.
I have wrriten even "saloka" to prove that Hinduism believe in one God.
But you want to go in periods and group of people but that was not the matter of debate.
I answered your question where you claimed that only islam has one God concept.
Look, Hinduism is a very diverse. It is not a religion but a vast vast civilization of different faiths and cultures.
So don't go into debate of Hinduism diversity. This is not the matter of debate here.
The matter was who had "one God" concept in a very first. N i answered it with proof . Matter closed.

 

[undercover JIX]

You are not admin to set the rule here on PDF. I requested to mods open the debate , then i will create another thread with loads of Questions.
Read the thread i have already asked a question, first reply me of that question.

I sincerely apologize for giving you the wrong impression of being admin.

as far as answering you first question goes, " It was Off Topic" One Pic is of other religion and second is a generalized, which is not under the topic you wanted to discuss.

As to remind you, what your Topic of discussion was.

Why most of muslims afraid of discussing their religion? ?

Your questions so far are not indicating that you want to discuss anything.
May peace be upon you.

 

[hussain0216]

The supreme GOD. Hinduism believes in One supreme God who has no shape.
I answered your question already with proof.
I have wrriten even "saloka" to prove that Hinduism believe in one God.
But you want to go in periods and group of people but that was not the matter of debate.
I answered your question where you claimed that only islam has one God concept.
Look, Hinduism is a very diverse. It is not a religion but a vast vast civilization of different faiths and cultures.
So don't go into debate of Hinduism diversity. This is not the matter of debate here.
The matter was who had "one God" concept in a very first. N i answered it with proof . Matter closed.

so this is an attempt to rebrand paganism and multi god idols as monotheism?

 

[lastofthepatriots]

There are different ways to get in to supreme awareness ..Through knowledge,devotion,karma etc .. Different Gods are manifestation of supreme awareness ..You can call it Krishna,shiva or Allah ,all these are names ..A devotee can can do devotion to any manifestation of supreme reality but ultimate truth is one and the same ..Your true self .

You can use all the words in your vocabulary, but there is only one God. Allah swt. It's fine if you disagree and have your own beliefs. As Muslims, it is our job to remind you of Allah swt. Maybe 3 times at most. If you don't agree after this then live your life with respect towards Muslims and with Muslims respecting your beliefs. Easy as that

I honestly don't care if someone doesn't follow Islam, but just have some respect in terms of common decency towards Muslims so we can reciprocate.