Why Malaysia might not Buy Tejas.

[faithfulguy]

Tejas is a failed story. The biggest problem facing Tejas apart from every thing is turn around time of the jet. It is stated that getting it ready after a sortie takes ages as well. the jet is poorly designed.

Its essentially a down graded version of Mirage 2000. India tried to copy Mirage 2000 but they made it worse. After 30 plus years of one failure after another. The only smart thing to do is still to cancel the project.

 

[Zee-shaun]

Modi will donate a few to a poor country, maybe BD and call it an export success a la Dhruv.

 

[faithfulguy]

Obviously Malaysia would also need to buy plenty of trucks to mount all those wonderful Tejas - after all Tejas is the World's first 'Truck Mounted' Fighter Jet!

I posted mine one minute before you. But we thought alike. Its a parade plane.

 

[Super Falcon]

Tejas is a fancy car which has no owners it is not even battle worthy u can put missiles on AIR india and claim to sell them every flying socer is not a fighter jet

 

[faithfulguy]

Modi will donate a few to a poor country, maybe BD and call it an export success a la Dhruv.

Indian weapon expirt story is a complete failure. Only one country tried to use Indian choppers and they returned the junk after many fatalities. Just think, if India is incapable of maintaining a plane. What make them think they can make them. Hence, you see the continuous delays and failures of LCA junk. Its s failed product as much as a child is trying to run when the child can't even walk.

 

[Peaceful Civilian]

Tejas comes mounted on a truck. Would Malasia work well with the manufacturer of the truck?

Actuary W.r.t Specification, Tejas have little edge over jf17 Block II due to
8 V 7 hardpoints, Mix of Israel, russian & U.S.A technology with powerful engine. But JF17 is operational from 10 years & combat proven, as we used it against Taliban, & then air conflict.
JF17 has clear edge on price, low operational & maintenance cost .
But After induction of PL15, AESA radar, IRST It will appear as true deadly fighter.
While no doubt that still our block I and block II with AKG400, SD10, H4 missiles give good punch and making truely multi role fighter .

 

[rambro]

Actuary W.r.t Specification, Tejas have little edge over jf17 Block II due to
8 V 7 hardpoints, Mix of Israel, russian & U.S.A technology with powerful engine. But JF17 is operational from 10 years & combat proven, as we used it against Taliban, & then air conflict.
JF17 has clear edge on price, low operational & maintenance cost .
But After induction of PL15, AESA radar, IRST It will appear as true deadly fighter.
While no doubt that still our block I and block II with AKG400, SD10, H4 missiles give good punch and making truely multi role fighter .

Not really an upside having that many components from so many different countries in war times.

 

[M.AsfandYar]

Not really an upside having that many components from so many different countries in war times.

Logistics and maintenance nightmare.

 

[Rangila]

Breaking news: India blew up its own helicopter while trying to target Pakistani jets, killing 7 – report rt.com/news/455066-in… …

 

[CrazyZ]

What I've read is that Malaysians will only consider Tejas if the Isreali avionics are changed which will add time and cost to any tender. At this point JF17 is the front runner to win this contract.

 

[Novice09]

HAL is marketing Tejas Heavily to Malaysia but they have over looked one major issue and that might be the biggest problem in selling Tejas to any Muslim country.

The first problem in selling Tejas is the RADAR which is of Israeli origin and Malaysia don't recognizes Israel as a country.

As reported by Janes.com

India selects IAI/Elta Systems radar and EW suite for Tejas LCA Mk 1A

India's state-owned Hindustan Aeronautics Limited (HAL) has signed a deal with Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI)/Elta Systems for 83 active electronically scanned array (AESA) radars and an equal number of electronic warfare (EW) suites to be fitted onto the Mk 1A variant of the indigenously developed Tejas Light Combat Aircraft (LCA).


Industry sources told Jane's that the deal for ELM-2052 fire control radars and pod-mounted ELL-8222WB (wide band) self-protection jamming pods was "quietly" signed in late October after IAI/Elta emerged as the lowest bidder for the two compatible systems.

The IAI/Elta products were selected over systems fielded by rivals Thales and Saab, which had also responded to HAL's December 2016 request for quotation for AESA radars and EW suites.
https://www.janes.com/article/85107...ystems-radar-and-ew-suite-for-tejas-lca-mk-1a

The second issue in line is the Derby BVR missile which is also of Israeli origin and again Malaysia don't recognizes Israel.

Indian aircraft LCA Tejas launches Derby BVR missile

https://www.airforce-technology.com/news/indian-aircraft-lca-tejas-launches-derby-bvr-missile/



There is a huge diplomatic problem from India to sell Tejas to Malaysia and the jet might be out of the Malaysian procurement race even before it is considered.


Malaysia’s Mahathir dubs Israel ‘a state of robbers’
Malaysian premier says his country enjoys friendly relations with every country except for Israel
https://www.aa.com.tr/en/asia-pacific/malaysia-s-mahathir-dubs-israel-a-state-of-robbers-/1426044

I agree with you... 100%... it is impossible... Israeli armaments + American heart (Engine)... lots of permission required...

By the way... do you know that it was Malaysia, who invited India to Participate... We have lots of MiG 21s waiting to get replaced...

You don’t sell jets rejected by your own airforce, with only 4 in service(under going tests).

Not unless you are selling to “wakanda” post apocalypse.

15 are in service... 16th within few days... production rate would be 24/year by 2020...

for saling something you need to make it . indians made some 10 tejas in 30 years

Further to my reply to desert fighter and Bharwana...

We have made them and induction is in full swing... delayed... yes it is...

Yes there are too many countries involved. The engines come from one country Avionics and radar from an other. ejection seat from another. Actually this diverse procurement of parts is the main problem which is halting Tejas.

Procurement of parts is not an issue for domestic use... it will be a mess if exported...

In India, nobody is looking forward to sell it before fulfilling IAF requirement...

Obviously Malaysia would also need to buy plenty of trucks to mount all those wonderful Tejas - after all Tejas is the World's first 'Truck Mounted' Fighter Jet!

Keep eye on LIMA... You might get a chance to see the INVISIBLE FLYING TRUCK... on which Tejas is mounted...

 

[Imran Khan]

I agree with you... 100%... it is impossible... Israeli armaments + American heart (Engine)... lots of permission required...

By the way... do you know that it was Malaysia, who invited India to Participate... We have lots of MiG 21s waiting to get replaced...



15 are in service... 16th within few days... production rate would be 24/year by 2020...



Further to my reply to desert fighter and Bharwana...

We have made them and induction is in full swing... delayed... yes it is...



Procurement of parts is not an issue for domestic use... it will be a mess if exported...

In India, nobody is looking forward to sell it before fulfilling IAF requirement...



Keep eye on LIMA... You might get a chance to see the INVISIBLE FLYING TRUCK... on which Tejas is mounted...

inviting not means they want to buy its mean they want to see what indians were cooking since last 33 years

 

[Thorough Pro]

If I was the buyer, I would only ask one question.
In your recent clashes with Pakistan, did the IAF felt confident enough to pitch this aircraft against Pakistan?
If yes, what was the result?
If no, get the **** outa here!

 

[TechMan]

which part of it is bharati? landing gear?

Only the pilot

 

[Umair Nawaz]

Its essentially a down graded version of Mirage 2000. India tried to copy Mirage 2000 but they made it worse. After 30 plus years of one failure after another. The only smart thing to do is still to cancel the project.

tell that to people like him @Joe Shearer he is working on this project