why is MQM demanding authority of law and order in Karachi and LG system?

[darkinsky]

PPP, sindhi nationalists supporting mafias inside karachi

Karachi has become hub of kidnappings, extortions, drug trade, land mafia

 

[arushbhai]

Darkinsky, your partys soul goal is to break karachi from Pakistan. And if for any reason this cant be accomplished, you guys atleast want to make karachi a separate province for mahajirs only where others will be persecuted and sent back to their home provinces in bori bags. Now is not the good time to cry because you should save some tears for your altaf bhai who will be undergoing a nice treatment in british prison. Save those cute little alligator tears for him.

 

[Fracker]

After ruling Karachi for more then 10 years, now they are speaking of Law and Order situation in Karachi.. Come on...


Why MQM is asking for LQ System, since they are thinking Mustafa kamal will again become Nazim and can clean name of MQM. nothing special they want to Karachi. Otherwise removing all weapons from karachi was good option which MQM rejected.

 

[darkinsky]

After ruling Karachi for more then 10 years, now they are speaking of Law and Order situation in Karachi.. Come on...


Why MQM is asking for LQ System, since they are thinking Mustafa kamal will again become Nazim and can clean name of MQM. nothing special they want to Karachi. Otherwise removing all weapons from karachi was good option which MQM rejected.

weapons in karachi come from peshawar, KPK and during MQM's mush time we did a lot which also included volunteering surrendering weapon earned people reward, go back in the history and try to realise things

karachi cant be solely deweaponised, it need entire country getting deweaponised

 

[ice_man]

during Musharraf's time how can anyone forget 12TH MAY 2007? when MQM WASEEM AKHTAR was home secretary and GOVERNOR was MQMs and major political force was MQM and on LIVE TV the world saw the true face of MQM!

so giving them Law & Order will for sure make life impossible for everyone else just like in NAZI Germany every other political party & ethnicity were destroyed.

 

[kernelx]

Only MQM can't be alleged for all this, other parties especially PPP is equally responsible for poor law and order of Karachi. Former PPP govt issued ~400,000 arms license which contributed to worsening of law and order situation. on this, PPP govt realize their mistake later when they found that Bloach Separatist and even Taliban are the beneficiary of their scheme coupled with their own bullshits are slipping from their hands. It seems PPP govt was afraid of blaming of providing support to anti-Pakistan forces, therefor they commenced operations in Liyari but faced disastrous failure in it. No doubt MQM has a terror wing but unfortunately people are not focusing on the horrible contribution of PPP.

 

[Fracker]

weapons in karachi come from peshawar, KPK and during MQM's mush time we did a lot which also included volunteering surrendering weapon earned people reward, go back in the history and try to realise things

karachi cant be solely deweaponised, it need entire country getting deweaponised

volunteering rewards is old concept, even in first tenor of NS they call everyone to register the weapons. People gave marters, rocket launchers, anti aircraft guns.. but how you will convince criminals to gave up their weapons? this wasn't successful in NS time, neither it worked in Musharaf's time. And ofcourse all weapons comes from Dara Adam Khail and surrounding areas since old industry there. But who is using it?

You can't clean whole country in one go, you have to start from somewhere. And because of worst security condition in Karachi, practically this is the best place to start with. Be practical!!

 

[Panther 57]

Wrote this article sometime back. May be it is of interest to you.

Deweaponisation Bill

Deweaponisation Bill has been welcomed by many corners of civil society. Some have referred to implementation of existing law, which is equally potent if implemented with letter in spirit.

New deweaponisation bill submitted in national assembly has three main areas, namely closing manufacturing of illicit arms production unit, controlling illegal weapons movement and cancellation of weapons licenses issued in the past. These measures have been proposed to control crime in the country. A prudent look into crimes committed clearly indicates that weapons used in crimes are all illegal.

It is good to have a weapons free society, but this is not possible, as history suggests that weapons have been part and parcel of human life. In fact Islam patronises holding of weapon for self defence. Even in developed world citizens are permitted to possess weapon for self defence and sports purposes. Secondly, by closing illegal weapon manufacturing units will amount to denying a large number of people from earning their daily bread and butter.

Most important and potentially dangerous factor in whole this issue being overlooked is prudent approach of our religion, which permits individuals to possess arms. It is for the purpose of self defence; in present era when aggression can take place against any country by a super power on fabricated grounds. In such case a deweaponised society is sitting duck for any aggressor. Enemy is fully satisfied that if they enter Pakistan they will be posed with no threat from its citizens whatsoever, their objective is already achieved by 75%.

Apparently, this brings us to a dead end and it becomes a challenge to control crimes due to illicit weapons being possessed in society. Each challenge has an opportunity associated with it. One should always look at the brighter side.

Tribal areas in Pakistan have been involved in production of arms since very long time. Weapons made in those areas are in no way inferior to the ones made in any developed countries. On the other hand these weapons are very competitive against branded weapons. Need of the hour is to patronize these manufacturers and assist them in becoming part of our growing economy. Through controlled patronization of such units Pakistan can become an exporter of small and sports arm, in international weapons market.

Proper implementation of existing laws and out of the box approach to arms production in the country rules out requirement of deweaponisation bill, with socially accepted freedom to the citizens of this country.

 

[darkinsky]

volunteering rewards is old concept, even in first tenor of NS they call everyone to register the weapons. People gave marters, rocket launchers, anti aircraft guns.. but how you will convince criminals to gave up their weapons? this wasn't successful in NS time, neither it worked in Musharaf's time. And ofcourse all weapons comes from Dara Adam Khail and surrounding areas since old industry there. But who is using it?

You can't clean whole country in one go, you have to start from somewhere. And because of worst security condition in Karachi, practically this is the best place to start with. Be practical!!

you need to close down the eapons market simple as that

clearing karachi wont mean there wont be any future weapons smuggling, its a very basic common sense

in order to clear city from criminals you need to introduce community policing and local body system and depoliticise the police and give them proper weapons and training

the chosen representatives needed to be given full authority for law and order

many of the karachi problems are not home grown for eg, lyari gangsters take help from BLA, TTP from FATA and KPK, and LeJ come from punjab

in order to create peace in one city you need to do immense home work for being in the federal and in the punjab government and the respective provincial governments

you need to create example by hanging the terrorists which shahbaz shareef isnt doing

 

[pak-marine]

maza ajaey agar MQM gets interior ministry Talibans and extremists will run like headless chicken it would be fun watching them gettin roasted by the law enforcement agencies ..

 

[Fracker]

you need to close down the weapons market simple as that

clearing karachi wont mean there wont be any future weapons smuggling, its a very basic common sense

in order to clear city from criminals you need to introduce community policing and local body system and depoliticise the police and give them proper weapons and training

the chosen representatives needed to be given full authority for law and order

many of the karachi problems are not home grown for eg, lyari gangsters take help from BLA, TTP from FATA and KPK, and LeJ come from punjab

in order to create peace in one city you need to do immense home work for being in the federal and in the punjab government and ther respective governments

Weapon Markets are already closed down. Army is already their working. Now only those smuggling get by pass which has political backing. Most of the Karachi problems are home grown only. Like bori band lash, Target Killing, Bhatta, short term kidnapping and so o on.... and All criminals do help each other, this makes them grow. But if karachi is deweaponise then filtering out normal people from criminals will be peace of cake, then all those with the weapon can be killed on shot at sight order, and criminals will be scared to take weapon out. [Read Deweaponise Bill from ANP]

Ofcourse, deweaponizing Karachi is not the only solution, but step towards many solutions. Federal Government already asked for cooperation and help required to provincial government.. But still no case has came forward.

Think again, Deweaponising Karachi is good step towards solution to Karachi Law & Order situation.

Edit: This is why MQM is wanting LG System

 

[darkinsky]

the cartoonist should have waited before ranting, PPP has rejected MQM's recommendations, go to the local government thread and find all updates

 

[Mav3rick]

during Musharraf's time how can anyone forget 12TH MAY 2007? when MQM WASEEM AKHTAR was home secretary and GOVERNOR was MQMs and major political force was MQM and on LIVE TV the world saw the true face of MQM!

so giving them Law & Order will for sure make life impossible for everyone else just like in NAZI Germany every other political party & ethnicity were destroyed.

Not wanting to get into the whole argument of 12th May, but I believe we have discussed it to death where the other opinion is that MQM was the victim and that the ploy of using MQM flags during terrorism, by the opposition, would do wonders. The ploy was, ofcourse, based on the assumption that the general public is extremely gullible which proved to be true and continues to be true. Because the fact is that no Terrorist party would ever carry out any acts of terrorism while displaying their identity!

And least you forget, in Nazi Germany the basic idea was to create passion for the German nation and to expand the interests and authority of Germany!

After ruling Karachi for more then 10 years, now they are speaking of Law and Order situation in Karachi.. Come on...


Why MQM is asking for LQ System, since they are thinking Mustafa kamal will again become Nazim and can clean name of MQM. nothing special they want to Karachi. Otherwise removing all weapons from karachi was good option which MQM rejected.

Again, we have explained many a times that there is a huge difference b/w being a part of the overall Government and the Government itself! I just don't understand why we have to go round and round again.

Furthermore, you have something against the LG system now, that MQM promotes?

 

[Patriots]

during Musharraf's time how can anyone forget 12TH MAY 2007? when MQM WASEEM AKHTAR was home secretary and GOVERNOR was MQMs and major political force was MQM and on LIVE TV the world saw the true face of MQM!

so giving them Law & Order will for sure make life impossible for everyone else just like in NAZI Germany every other political party & ethnicity were destroyed.

Now PTIans are criticizing CJP ... Tau bhai ab tau maan lo k MQM ki rally PCO judge k khilaf right step tha 12th May ko ............

 

[Fracker]

Again, we have explained many a times that there is a huge difference b/w being a part of the overall Government and the Government itself! I just don't understand why we have to go round and round again.

Furthermore, you have something against the LG system now, that MQM promotes?

Nope I don't never had, I only replied on current thread, where misinformation being spread "Why is MQM Demanding LG System".

Being Part of Government means government. You join government so that you can work on your agenda or atleast force other partners to achieve your agenda for betterment. Otherwise what is the need to be in the government? Ohh yeah i Know "Power"