Why Indian Muslims are not standing against lynching mobs

[Arulmozhi Varman]

According to Pakistanis: Beef is banned in some Indian states.

Response: Muslims are slaves.

According to Pakistanis: People killed in lynchings.

Response: Muslims are slaves.

According to Pakistanis: Chinese force Muslims to camps, forcing to eat porks, cut beards and brainwashing.

Response: * Pakistanis missing- Not Applicable *

Lynchings is very very bad and India will recover from it. We are a law of the land and I really hope culprits will be prosecuted. But rules apply to all. If Beef is banned in some Indian states, its the responsibility of all citizens to follow the law of the land. More Muslims get killed in Pakistan in one single bomb blast than the whole number of Muslims killed in last 5 years due to hate crimes. So its our land, our country.

What you guys do with your minorities is your wish. With the kidnappings and conversions I would be surprised to find some in next 20 years. All the best. /

 

[Imran Khan]

indian muslims lack a pair of marbles

 

[Peshwa]

Pakistanis on this thread are going full retard it seems.
Indian Muslims are chicken, lack balls, ...fucking total nonsense from armchair generals hiding behind the security of their computer screens. Most not even living in Pak or have experienced the injustice that happens in mob violence.
So when a mob of fanatic Hindus in far out UP preys on a single Muslim, what option does he have? Fight back, but get Killed in the process. Result is the same.
Same goes for a mob of Muslims attacking a Hindu.
What exactly do Pakistanis think they are super men, to fend off a mob baying for blood? I would love to see these single Pakistanis show their cajones when a mob tries to rip them apart. You PDF Pakistanis are a joke.

And your solution is that Indian Muslims should form a mob in another state and attack a group of Hindus that had nothing to do with the killing of the Muslim in question? So how are you any different that the people you are criticizing? And what would that do? Just egg on the Hindu fanatics to do the same to Muslims in other areas and the cycle continues. Just more communal hatred incited, that’s all.

India has fanatics and liberals alike.
Not every Hindu nationalist is trying to kill Muslims. Those that are need to be punished severely.
Hindus don’t hate muslims, some Hindus do. If all Hindus hated Muslims, India would have been a graveyard for Muslims already, given the sheer number of Hindus that outnumber the Muslims.

The solution is not to take the law into your own hands, it’s to make stronger laws and enforce them to protect muslims. Indian Muslims need to vote for those candidates that promise them that security in these elections. Use the vote to change the system than become the problem for the system. Because the more Muslims take law into their hands, the more they play into the narrative Hindu fanatics are creating against them.
I’m surprised by the comments here, some from senior members who usually have a balanced view of things.
Pity.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Hi,

If you did not know about that---then it is not worth talking to you---.

So we Pakistanis have to be saviours for indian alleged "Muslims"???????.............do we also need to be saviours for Eskimos, Zulus, OAPs in the UK etc?

 

[Adonis]

Sounds similar to this very infamous case. They were British citizens caught up in the Gujarat riots;

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/...o-urge-british-ministers-to-seek-9587758.html

“[The authorities in Gujarat] have treated us worse than dogs. The fact that we have been unable to get the remains returned shows the contempt,” said Yusuf Dawood, a brother of Saeed and Shakil. “The remains are still with the courts, who knows where they are. Are they in a cupboard?”

The three men, originally from Gujarat, were killed in the spring of 2002 while they were on a visit to the state as tourists. Their trip coincided with a wave of anti-Muslim violence and killing that gripped part of the Gujarat after dozens of Hindu pilgrims died in a fire on a train, alleged to have been started by Muslims.


The men, along with their driver, were killed by a mob after stopping at a roadblock at Prantij, 40 miles north-east of Ahmedabad. The remains of two of the men were eventually recovered after efforts by the family and the British government. Another member of the family escaped and survived. Shakhil Dawood’s body has never been found.



I find three responses from them;
1. Everything is ok and we live in peace.
2. Things are getting worse.
3. Me and my family are moving to UAE, Australia, Canada wherever to get away from the Sanghi hell.

Number 1 is still the majority opinion for now.

Tough I refrain myself from falling in this shit-slinging context of Hindu vs Muslim...I just want to ask

1. Why only Muslims are the victims? (across the world)
2. Why they keep on asking concession when in monitory (e.g European countries, US, India etc) but don't do so to their minorities (take example of whole Muslim world)
3. Specific to this debate, Why we (my Pakistani mates) are concerned about treatment of Muslims in India wherein in Pakistan we conveniently abduct, rape and force convert Hindu girls. Besides, what special treatment does our Muslims brothers get in Pakistan (read health, safety, basic necessities)
4. Why religion comes foremost for Pakistanis but not economy, education, health of their citizens...look at your condition....
5. Cherry-picking on specific incidents in India 'soothes our soul' I know...but look at what it has brought us....

Change your attitude....you have gone backwards (in economy, education and your reputation in the world) compared to 30 years before.

 

[Pakistani Fighter]

Firat of all im happy that quaid e azam and alama iabalshowed us real face of hindus AZ nd created seprate state we still far happy than those indian muslims

There are 25 carore muslims living in india should curse themselves they made a wrong choice

Second thing why indian muslims dont create mob fighting mob so give befeting replies to these terrorists indian muslims already lost their faith on wachother to help against tgese mobs instead of asking indian govt why dont create themselves with big hurdleof mob to fight this mob


Indianmuslims gave these phatoo hindus free space to dictate and create fear for themselves

Everyday indian sitting ministers ask muslims go to pak yet these indian muslims shamed to say yes we made a mistake to live in india


I think indian muslims should get out of hindustan love and followislam which says there is no state for muslim islam is in itself a state muslim where ever isa brother of muslim should help each other

But after all abuse these idiots still follow love for india

And are you gonna accept them considering the hues and cries for overpopulation of Pakistan?

 

[Mentee]

Come on @MastanKhan why it is because of Pakistan!!!
For your information, I have interactions with Indian Muslims regularly. They are damn ignorant.
Despite knowing the full reality of what is happening in India to them, they keep denying it.
Instead they would in discussion with furor toe the same line toed by the Indian Hindus that Pakistan is a terrorist state and it is interfering in Kashmir.

You on the other hand are cooking a different meal here, by saying that the Indian Muslims are let down by Pakistan. Don't try to fool anyone, and don't try to change the topic.

The problem for Indian Muslims is that they don't have the balls, instead of standing up to the Hindu bullies they try to hide behind the wall of "Secularism". Secularism their arses, the India is a damn out right racist country, period. Ask any African who goes to study in India, they will tell you Indians are racist people.

Sir you or many here are not his intended viewers of this comment - - - - -. He's selling another stimulus like many in the past to whom it may concern. So that those reading may end up upping the ante in their respective domains - - - - - - -.

@MastanKhan sir not only us kids but many of the oldies are also clueless - - - - - - - - -.

Kids may learn over time but these old timers

 

[waz]

Tough I refrain myself from falling in this shit-slinging context of Hindu vs Muslim...I just want to ask

1. Why only Muslims are the victims? (across the world)
2. Why they keep on asking concession when in monitory (e.g European countries, US, India etc) but don't do so to their minorities (take example of whole Muslim world)
3. Specific to this debate, Why we (my Pakistani mates) are concerned about treatment of Muslims in India wherein in Pakistan we conveniently abduct, rape and force convert Hindu girls. Besides, what special treatment does our Muslims brothers get in Pakistan (read health, safety, basic necessities)
4. Why religion comes foremost for Pakistanis but not economy, education, health of their citizens...look at your condition....
5. Cherry-picking on specific incidents in India 'soothes our soul' I know...but look at what it has brought us....

Change your attitude....you have gone backwards (in economy, education and your reputation in the world) compared to 30 years before.

1. Where did I say Muslims are the only victims?
2. Muslims aren't getting 'concessions' in the countries you mentioned. Minorities are treated equally in many Muslim states.
3. In Pakistan people don't ignore such issues, the high court rescued anD handed by a Christian girl very recently, and the case of the two Hindu girls is still ongoing.
4. Of course everything is important, and yes some Pakistanis do ignore other things at the expense of faith, which shouldn't be happening, but things are getting better in this regard.
5. No one is cherry picking here, such incidents are now common place, you are one of the few nations on this planet that has a religious right-wing government in power, that itself is very telling.

Yes things have gone backward and steps are being taken to rectify that, but the exact thing can be said about tolerance in India as well.

Anyway I suggest you quote others, I can't help Indian Muslims nor do I believe I should poke my nose into your affairs, I'll leave it to you. My post related to British citizens and I also mentioned that Indian Muslims are patriotic.

 

[Crystal-Clear]

they are selfish and cowards .

 

[MilSpec]

Pakistanis on this thread are going full retard it seems.

aah, quite an understatement.

Indian Muslims are chicken, lack balls, ...fucking total nonsense from armchair generals hiding behind the security of their computer screens. Most not even living in Pak or have experienced the injustice that happens in mob violence.
So when a mob of fanatic Hindus in far out UP preys on a single Muslim, what option does he have? Fight back, but get Killed in the process. Result is the same.
Same goes for a mob of Muslims attacking a Hindu.
What exactly do Pakistanis think they are super men, to fend off a mob baying for blood? I would love to see these single Pakistanis show their cajones when a mob tries to rip them apart. You PDF Pakistanis are a joke.

And your solution is that Indian Muslims should form a mob in another state and attack a group of Hindus that had nothing to do with the killing of the Muslim in question? So how are you any different that the people you are criticizing? And what would that do? Just egg on the Hindu fanatics to do the same to Muslims in other areas and the cycle continues. Just more communal hatred incited, that’s all.

India has fanatics and liberals alike.
Not every Hindu nationalist is trying to kill Muslims. Those that are need to be punished severely.
Hindus don’t hate muslims, some Hindus do. If all Hindus hated Muslims, India would have been a graveyard for Muslims already, given the sheer number of Hindus that outnumber the Muslims.

The solution is not to take the law into your own hands, it’s to make stronger laws and enforce them to protect muslims. Indian Muslims need to vote for those candidates that promise them that security in these elections. Use the vote to change the system than become the problem for the system. Because the more Muslims take law into their hands, the more they play into the narrative Hindu fanatics are creating against them.
I’m surprised by the comments here, some from senior members who usually have a balanced view of things.
Pity.

 

[PurpleButcher]

Hindustan or Lynchistan?

 

[YeBeWarned]

Them retaliating will do more harm than good ..but as tipu said , Sher ki ek din ki Zindagi geedar ki hazar saala Zindagi se behter hai .

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

What I stated was mentioned to me by my good friend Dr. M---. That was in 1988---Dr M an indian muslim---a pioneer scientist in the manufacture of the Jarvik 7 heart---.

I will take his words on the sufferings of indian muslims due to the actions of pakistanis.

The attitude of the pakistanis is shameless over this issue---.We brag about one thing against india---100 muslims are thrashed in india---one hindu is killed in pakistan---10 times are killed in india---. One hindu woman raped in pakistan---10 times muslim women raped in india---.

I have always stated on the issue---if there is a war that needs to be fought---then fight a war---but empty threats and rhetoric have decimated the identity of the indian muslims---.

 

[Placemat]

Indian muslims are doing alright. Its just they are behaving like my my 7y old son. Last year when we stopped spoon feeding him, putting on his socks, shirt etc.. he had this shocked look and realization that we are not not going to be doing this forever and he will learn to do things on his own. He is fine now.. a bit slow in somethings and a bit messy sometimes but getting there to being independent.

 

[Nein]

This is why you pack heat!!

Guns are the best form of self defence. If the Rohingas had guns and not fled they would have been in a much better position.