Why INDIA needs the APACHE – AH64D LONGBOW?

[Judge]

India is currently kissing up to usa right now, I don't blame them though its a good move

Thats the one thing we dont do. And our foreign policy is based on that.

If we do something its always in exchange for something else. We dont do anything for goodwill or to get favour. So if we purchase some US equipment, its a pay-off for the nuclear deal - were supposed to buy dozens of billion dollars worth of reactors from US companies, since that cant happen, we are buying things in other sectors - the pay off remains a pay off.

 

[gau8av]

'Make in India' will reduce the price !!

no chance of the US offering that level of tech for 'make in India' , big difference between Javelin and Apache

 

[帅的一匹]

we need to take it down to research, any good idea? it may crash like C130I any time.

 

[帅的一匹]

CCP had the tradition of picking up USA weapon in the field since WW2 and in domestic war with KMT.

 

[Srinivas]

no chance of the US offering that level of tech for 'make in India' , big difference between Javelin and Apache

Cost cutting is a major achievement in any industry. US is far ahead in defense industry they know how to protect their micro chips and sensors.

Manufacturing I mean manufacturing structures like cockpit, rotar blades, tail rotor,etc.....etc...

Other sensitive and classified tech. we can import and assemble here in India, or learn from this experience and make our own bird.

 

[rockstar08]

Apache's are good for anti-terrorism raids .... India will be needing those in numbers ..

 

[gau8av]

Cost cutting is a major achievement in any industry. US is far ahead in defense industry they know how to protect their micro chips and sensors.

Manufacturing I mean manufacturing structures like cockpit, rotar blades, tail rotor,etc.....etc...

Other sensitive and classified tech. we can import and assemble here in India, or learn from this experience and make our own bird.

true, TATAs already makes the cabin for the Sikorsky S-92 (the next marine 1)

let's wait for the Obama visit, don't expect anything near the level of what Russia is offering as far as defence and manufacturing is concerned. Not sure the US will want to outsource those core defence production line jobs like that either.

They might offer more from their core defence products line in the way of acquisitions, though.

So overall India are in a better position than China/Pak.. US market is not open to them, and the Russians would rather produce here.

 

[hkdas]

Comparative costs......

Mi-28NE Night Hunter - $30 million per unit.
Ka-52 - $20 million per unit.

AH-64A: $20M (2007) per unit cost
AH-64D:$65M (2010)
AH-64E: $35.5M (2014)

The IAF is going in for 22 AH-64D Longbow Block III's at a cool $65 million a pop!

In May 2013, the Indian Army requested for 11 AH-64Es for its Aviation Corps. This should materialize soon.

most significant advantage of AH64E is that it can control UAVs... and it is also capable of networking with other choppers.... mil 28NE don't have these features

 

[hkdas]

Yes, effectively a mini-AWACS of an attack helicopter.

If we end up with say 44 of these, that's 22 battle groups if 2 apache and 6-8 LCH, and 1-2 UAVs for recce, each capable of annihilating a battalion of armour or mechanised infantry. That's what you get from state of the art weaponry, as opposed to copycat Chinese "technology" or missiles that blow up their own operators

exactly.... and mil 28NE don't have any weapon which is comparable to hellfire used by AH-64E. and also ammerican electronic countermeasures are excellent. IAF had tested almost every premier attack choppes during its selection process. apache E model is much more advance than mi 28NE.

 

[rockstar08]

They will primarily be used against pakistani tanks and armoured vehicles
Not anti terrorism raids for which LCH, RUDRA ,mi-17v5 are more than enough.

best of luck with that

 

[Skillrex]

But you still can't change the fact that india is a sh!t country

if india is shit country.. what about you guys ?? dont you cook food with gutter oil ?? it must be gutter effect.. all these years eating food with gutter oil has made you brains less chickens..

 

[Parmanu]

best of luck with that

thank you. but i guess we won't need that. the apaches don't run on luck !

 

[rockstar08]

thank you. but i guess we won't need that. the apaches don't run on luck !

but your pilots are

just a joke dont take it seriously

 

[Parmanu]

but your pilots are

just a joke dont take it seriously

ok, I won't take you seriously.

 

[sancho]

most significant advantage of AH64E is that it can control UAVs... and it is also capable of networking with other choppers.... mil 28NE don't have these features

In the NATO forces, but Indian forces doesn't use the same sat, com or data links, that's why the avonics upgrade of the Block 3 is pretty much useless for us, since we have to replace the US systems with Indian, Israeli or European once, just as we did in the C130Js, C17s or P8Is, so that's not a point for the Apache. One also have the question the use of such a capability for India anyway, since that's mainly a capability aimed on NATO forces operating in foreign country. To get better surveillance of areas they don't know or don't control. Our combat helicopters will mainly used within India, which changes the scenario too.