Bull-$hit. The rest of the world and quite a lot of Pakistani's agree that Pakistan has sponsored terrorism in India, starting from Kashmir and spreading elsewhere from there.
It is not for no reason Pakistan is always found in the center of a majority of the terrorist acts.
BS goes both ways. I am sure you understand this as you call it out.
Majority of Pakistanis agree that we have supported the freedom struggle of Kashmiris. The world can disagree with us on it, but we have supported this cause since 1948, and won't change this stance just because the US and others have a problem with how the right to bear arms and fight against oppression have been defined and their need to change this definition.
Again, with regards to fighting militants supported by India. Pakistan has been screaming this from the top of its lungs, and when it comes to giving ANY kind of proof to the international community, they calmly back off and say they would do so at an 'adequate time'.
Those that matter have been given proof. Baloch separatist openly say that they go to India and get support and welcome support. They have even gone on Pakistani TV and said the same. The fact that you make this possibility sound like such an impossibility is the real joke. As if your government is incapable of such things eventhough the precedence is there for all to see.
Pakistan is in no hurry out of the ordinary? The world might not be India, but the world is increasingly listening to what India says.
Sure. Lets see how this turns out and then we will worry about who listens to whom.
Yeah, so you keep trying after 71 to get back right? So that means we have legitimate rights to try the same in retaliation?
Get over it, '71 happened. And right in the middle of peace talks and a visit from the Indian PM, Pakistan moves its army to Indian vacated bunkers.
You can try the retaliations all you want to, the point is don't pass judgments on us claiming we back stabbed you at Kargil when your side has done this and worse. If you all can't get over Kargil, then at least accept that Pakistanis have the right to worry about your country's deceptive ways in the past.
Do i start on who the uncle and provider of succour for Pakistan is?
Their is plenty of succor provided to your side lest you forget. You can start wherever you want, the bottom line is that the Uncle holds your nads and is pressing them as and when needed. The latest supposed "offer" is a direct result of this.
Again, Bull-$hit. Pakistan has consistently promoted terrorism in India. This is born out of COUNTLESS admissions from your personnel who have retired and come out with books and the like. It is an internationally accepted fact that Pakistan rerouted its jehadis after Afghanistan to Kashmir and thence India.
As if your terming my statements BS will change the fact. You have nothing, absolutely nothing to prove that Pakistani government has aided or pushed militants to attack civilian targets in India proper. Your government and press have always claimed but never proved this. You folks cannot even figure out that it does GoP no good if Indian civilians die in militant attacks in India proper. I am perfectly fine acknowledging that we support those fighting against oppression in IoK against Indian Army and paramilitaries.
Pakistan has used terrorism as an extension of its state policy.
Not terrorism. Right of self determination and freedom struggle in the IoK.
Militancy in the entire region is fed by a war against terrorism? Im sorry, but for the last decade who has been fostering terrorism? Why is it that FATA/NWFP have become terrorist havens. Pakistan since Zia's time have allowed considerable autonomy to the terrorists and provided logistical support.
Last I checked, a war started in Afghanistan in 1979. Ever since then, there has been a void in that country. The militancy in your country is due to your obstinate policies against the Kashmiris. That gave the people a reason to dislike your government's policies. Passing the buck and blaming Pakistan for all your ills only has a few takers now.
When US/NATO entered Afghanistan, Pakistan allowed terrorists sanctuary in these areas. Why then did the PA ensure the writ of Pakistani state in these areas.
Pakistan did no such thing and stop spreading rumors. You guys cry about not being able to stop a few hundred people crossing over LoC every other 2 months and here you expect Pakistan to stop the flow of people across the entire Pak-Afghan border? Let me know when ISAF and US stop the flow of people coming into Pakistan. Once that is done and people still come across then your statement would have some validity.
The point is discussion. We have the right to discuss the policies of our government. This is a discussion board or am i missing something?
Its a discussion board, but a Pakistani one. Don't come here griping about teaching Pakistan a lesson and all the other typical bruhaha that comes along with it. It seems like Indians have to decide on their own first whether they want to talk or fight. To come here arrogantly and pass remarks like the very many above is contrary to furthering discussion here. It reeks of belligerence.
The list is pretty interesting on the Indian side. Care to dig it up or afraid that it would show you looking as castrated as the Pakistani government?
