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Why Does the Muslim World Lag in Science?

muslim world lags in science because of it's restrictions on a variety of things...women dont have equal rights as men...and so on
many muslim nations still live in the dark ages...in a closed society...intolerant of changes in their fabric...intolerant of new ideas...there are just too many censors!
the dependence on religion is too much...dont take me wrong....i am not an islam hater...
for me free thinking which is the basis of scientific thought would be encouraged only if the hold of the mullahs over the society be somewhat loosened...
in india...i know a lot of muslims(friends) who do things that would be called 'unislamic'...some of the are not religious at all...nobody cares...how deeply devoted you are is not an issue...we dont have any religious barrier in between us(me and the chaps i know)
religions were established when we were all in dark ages...trying to figure out how things work...they were meant to unite people....now when science appears to be a better alternative to understanding things...religion plays a dividing role...
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muslim world lags in science because of it's restrictions on a variety of things...women dont have equal rights as men...and so on
many muslim nations still live in the dark ages...in a closed society...intolerant of changes in their fabric...intolerant of new ideas...there are just too many censors!
the dependence on religion is too much...dont take me wrong....i am not an islam hater...
for me free thinking which is the basis of scientific thought would be encouraged only if the hold of the mullahs over the society be somewhat loosened...
in india...i know a lot of muslims(friends) who do things that would be called 'unislamic'...some of the are not religious at all...nobody cares...how deeply devoted you are is not an issue...we dont have any religious barrier in between us(me and the chaps i know)
religions were established when we were all in dark ages...trying to figure out how things work...they were meant to unite people....now when science appears to be a better alternative to understanding things...religion plays a dividing role...
IMO

Main impetus in the West’s scientific progress took place during the period immediately following the Industrial Revolution in the 19th Century which is also known as the “Century of Enlightenment”. During that period women had very little rights and certainly no vote. First book about women’s rights was written in 1792 and it was not until 1893 that women got the right to vote in New Zealand.

Women emancipation actually took place only after Suffragette movement of the 1920’s. For example in the UK women got a right to vote in 1928, in France in 1944, whereas in Switzerland they had to wait until 1971! Therefore scientific progress and equal rights for women don’t have a “Cause and effect” relationship.

Al Azhar is universally acknowledged as the premier school of Sunni Islam, you will find very few acknowledged Sunni scholars who went to Jamia al Azhar and still follow Salafin Islam. In Iran, most mullahs are educated, but Khomeni was never considered the pinnacle of Shia Islamic scholars and there were many Ayatollahs, such as Ayatollah Khoi and now Sistani who dispute the validity of Vilayat-e Faqih.

I have to agree that your observations hold true for certain countries such as Saudi Arabia, Iran, Sudan, Somalia and parts of Pakistan (Baluchistan & most of NWFP). However, it is certainly not true for Turkey, Egypt and pockets in Pakistan. This does have something to do with the Mullah power and the fact that most of the politically active Mullah figures such as Mullah Omer, Osama bin Laden or Fazlullah of Swat are not Islamic scholars, their understanding of Islam is highly biased with medieval tribal culture taken for granted as Islamic. The fault therefore is not in the teachings of religion but how it is actually practiced and preached by the uneducated mullahs to the illiterate public.

The problem in the subcontinent has been the orthodox Deoband School established in 1866 where despite following Hanafi Islam; political activism of the Wahabi doctorine has had strong influence. Ahmad Reza Khan of the Braelvi School didn’t subscribe to Takfir (declaring other Muslims as Kafirs) in the same way that Deobandi scholars proclaimed Sir Syed Ahmad Khan and also Quaid-e- Azam. IMO one of the reasons why Muslims were left behind in the British India is the curriculum taught at Deoband.

I admit having a strong bias against Deobandi scholars because of the opposition of Maulana Madani against the Quaid and Pakistan. Maulana Madani was no doubt a great Islamic scholar, but his and Maulana Abul Kalam Azad’s strong opposition to the creation of Pakistan caused irreparable damage to the interests of Muslims of the subcontinent. I therefore apologize if I have hurt any feelings with my criticism of the Deobandis. Even though I could be very wrong; this is how I feel.
 
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muslim world lags in science because of it's restrictions on a variety of things...women dont have equal rights as men...and so on
many muslim nations still live in the dark ages...in a closed society...intolerant of changes in their fabric...intolerant of new ideas...there are just too many censors!
the dependence on religion is too much...dont take me wrong....i am not an islam hater...
for me free thinking which is the basis of scientific thought would be encouraged only if the hold of the mullahs over the society be somewhat loosened...
in india...i know a lot of muslims(friends) who do things that would be called 'unislamic'...some of the are not religious at all...nobody cares...how deeply devoted you are is not an issue...we dont have any religious barrier in between us(me and the chaps i know)
religions were established when we were all in dark ages...trying to figure out how things work...they were meant to unite people....now when science appears to be a better alternative to understanding things...religion plays a dividing role...
IMO

What a load of nonsense. Some people always manage to blame all the misery of this world on religion and particularly Islam. Before you and I even existed, Islam was making huge strides in the field of science and many other areas. In fact, Islam contributed hugely in countless inventions. Inventions that you and I today benefit from in our university textbooks. Poetry, maths, astrology, astronomy, chemistry, physics, earth sciences, psychology, zoology, medicine, agriculture etc. are just a handful of subjects that Islam contributed massively towards. Heck, the tolerance of Mores in Spain and the Islamic scholars of Babylon reached such an extent that they allowed the Jews, Christians and other minorities to live and contribute within their respective societies when their barbaric armies were setting ablaze libraries. The Muslims were tolerant and allowed different faiths to live together in harmony. The Muslims enjoyed and shared their prosperity of science, economy and culture. Islam isn't intolerant. People have become intolerant. Islam doesn't preach backwardness or inequality between men and women. People and their backward norms and values do. You should learn do differentiate between both. When women were getting tortured just for being women during the Western medieval era, Islam gave women equal rights. Islam provided protection and respect to women. Women considered lower than animals in the Western world. Women considered as evil witches and had no right to live. Women were taking part in assemblies and had the freedom to express their opinion. When women were being buried alive during the dark ages in the Arab world, Islam gave hope to women by giving them an equal status. That's the history of Muslims. You shouldn't spew nonsense without even knowing what you're actually talking about.
 
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What a load of nonsense. Some people always manage to blame all the misery of this world on religion and particularly Islam. Before you and I even existed, Islam was making huge strides in the field of science and many other areas. In fact, Islam contributed hugely in countless inventions. Inventions that you and I today benefit from in our university textbooks. Poetry, Maths, astrology, astronomy, chemistry, physics, earth sciences, psychology, zoology, medicine, agriculture etc. are just a handful of subjects that Islam contributed massively towards. Heck, the tolerance of Mores in Spain and the Islamic scholars of Babylon reached such an extent that they allowed the Jews, Christians and other minorities to live and contribute within their respective societies when their barbaric armies were torturing and burning libraries. The Muslims were tolerant and allowed different faiths to live together in harmony. The Muslims enjoyed and shared their prosperity of science, economy and culture. Islam isn't intolerant. People have become intolerant. Islam doesn't preach backwardness or inequality between men and women. People and their backward norms and values do. You should learn do differentiate between both. When women were getting tortured just for being who they were during the Western medieval era, Islam gave women equal rights. Women were taking part in assemblies and had the freedom to express their opinion. When women were being buried alive during the dark ages in the Arab world, Islam gave hope to women by giving them an equal status. That's the history of Muslims. You shouldn't spew nonsense without even knowing what you're actually talking about.

When did the last major scientific discovery took place on any Islamic soil? Mughal empire was the most successful empire. Can you name me a single scientific contribution of that empire which world knows?

RK
 
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When did the last major scientific discovery took place on any Islamic soil? Mughal empire was the most successful empire. Can you name me a single scientific contribution of that empire which world knows?

RK

You're obviously totally oblivious of the facts. Your so-called Muhgal empire was largely driven by Turkic, Mongol and Persian descent. It wasn't something that you Hindu's achieved as you like to boast about. In fact, you contributed close to zilch. The likes of Babur, Timurid and Aurangzeb are the real successors. This is actually what Turkic Babur had to say about you Hindu's:

"Hindustan is a place of little charm, but a lot of ricky corn. There is no beauty in its people, no graceful social intercourse, no poetic talent or understanding, no etiquette, nobility or manliness. The arts and crafts have no harmony or symmetry. There are no good horses, meat, grapes, melons or other fruit. There is no ice, cold water, good food or bread in the markets. There are no baths and no madrasas. There are no candles, torches or candlesticks."

Before you start getting cocky you should know your place. These people taught you the meaning of life.

Now, coming back to the endless list of contributions:

1) Coffee


The story goes that an Arab named Khalid was tending his goats in the Kaffa region of southern Ethiopia, when he noticed his animals became livelier after eating a certain berry. He boiled the berries to make the first coffee. Certainly the first record of the drink is of beans exported from Ethiopia to Yemen where Sufis drank it to stay awake all night to pray on special occasions. By the late 15th century it had arrived in Mecca and Turkey from where it made its way to Venice in 1645. It was brought to England in 1650 by a Turk named Pasqua Rosee who opened the first coffee house in Lombard Street in the City of London.

The Arabic qahwa became the Turkish kahve then the Italian caffé and then English coffee.

2) Pin-Hole Camera

The ancient Greeks thought our eyes emitted rays, like a laser, which enabled us to see. The first person to realise that light enters the eye, rather than leaving it, was the 10th-century Muslim mathematician, astronomer and physicist Ibn al-Haitham. He invented the first pin-hole camera after noticing the way light came through a hole in window shutters. The smaller the hole, the better the picture, he worked out, and set up the first Camera Obscura (from the Arab word qamara for a dark or private room). He is also credited with being the first man to shift physics from a philosophical activity to an experimental one.

3) Chess

A form of chess was played in ancient India but the game was developed into the form we know it today in Persia. From there it spread westward to Europe - where it was introduced by the Moors in Spain in the 10th century - and eastward as far as Japan. The word rook comes from the Persian rukh, which means chariot.

4) Parachute

A thousand years before the Wright brothers a Muslim poet, astronomer, musician and engineer named Abbas ibn Firnas made several attempts to construct a flying machine. In 852 he jumped from the minaret of the Grand Mosque in Cordoba using a loose cloak stiffened with wooden struts. He hoped to glide like a bird. He didn't. But the cloak slowed his fall, creating what is thought to be the first parachute, and leaving him with only minor injuries. In 875, aged 70, having perfected a machine of silk and eagles' feathers he tried again, jumping from a mountain. He flew to a significant height and stayed aloft for ten minutes but crashed on landing - concluding, correctly, that it was because he had not given his device a tail so it would stall on landing.

Baghdad international airport and a crater on the Moon are named after him.

5) Shampoo

Washing and bathing are religious requirements for Muslims, which is perhaps why they perfected the recipe for soap which we still use today. The ancient Egyptians had soap of a kind, as did the Romans who used it more as a pomade. But it was the Arabs who combined vegetable oils with sodium hydroxide and aromatics such as thyme oil. One of the Crusaders' most striking characteristics, to Arab nostrils, was that they did not wash. Shampoo was introduced to England by a Muslim who opened Mahomed's Indian Vapour Baths on Brighton seafront in 1759 and was appointed Shampooing Surgeon to Kings George IV and William IV.

6) Refinement

Distillation, the means of separating liquids through differences in their boiling points, was invented around the year 800 by Islam's foremost scientist, Jabir ibn Hayyan, who transformed alchemy into chemistry, inventing many of the basic processes and apparatus still in use today - liquefaction, crystallisation, distillation, purification, oxidisation, evaporation and filtration. As well as discovering sulphuric and nitric acid, he invented the alembic still, giving the world intense rosewater and other perfumes and alcoholic spirits (although drinking them is haram, or forbidden, in Islam). Ibn Hayyan emphasised systematic experimentation and was the founder of modern chemistry.

7) Shaft

The crank-shaft is a device which translates rotary into linear motion and is central to much of the machinery in the modern world, not least the internal combustion engine. One of the most important mechanical inventions in the history of humankind, it was created by an ingenious Muslim engineer called al-Jazari to raise water for irrigation. His 1206 Book of Knowledge of Ingenious Mechanical Devices shows he also invented or refined the use of valves and pistons, devised some of the first mechanical clocks driven by water and weights, and was the father of robotics. Among his 50 other inventions was the combination lock.

8) Metal Armor

Quilting is a method of sewing or tying two layers of cloth with a layer of insulating material in between. It is not clear whether it was invented in the Muslim world or whether it was imported there from India or China. But it certainly came to the West via the Crusaders. They saw it used by Saracen warriors, who wore straw-filled quilted canvas shirts instead of armour. As well as a form of protection, it proved an effective guard against the chafing of the Crusaders' metal armour and was an effective form of insulation - so much so that it became a cottage industry back home in colder climates such as Britain and Holland.

9) Pointed Arch

The pointed arch so characteristic of Europe's Gothic cathedrals was an invention borrowed from Islamic architecture. It was much stronger than the rounded arch used by the Romans and Normans, thus allowing the building of bigger, higher, more complex and grander buildings. Other borrowings from Muslim genius included ribbed vaulting, rose windows and dome-building techniques. Europe's castles were also adapted to copy the Islamic world's - with arrow slits, battlements, a barbican and parapets. Square towers and keeps gave way to more easily defended round ones. Henry V's castle architect was a Muslim.

10) Surgery

Many modern surgical instruments are of exactly the same design as those devised in the 10th century by a Muslim surgeon called al-Zahrawi. His scalpels, bone saws, forceps, fine scissors for eye surgery and many of the 200 instruments he devised are recognisable to a modern surgeon. It was he who discovered that catgut used for internal stitches dissolves away naturally (a discovery he made when his monkey ate his lute strings) and that it can be also used to make medicine capsules. In the 13th century, another Muslim medic named Ibn Nafis described the circulation of the blood, 300 years before William Harvey discovered it. Muslims doctors also invented anaesthetics of opium and alcohol mixes and developed hollow needles to suck cataracts from eyes in a technique still used today.

11) Windmill

The windmill was invented in 634 for a Persian caliph and was used to grind corn and draw up water for irrigation. In the vast deserts of Arabia, when the seasonal streams ran dry, the only source of power was the wind which blew steadily from one direction for months. Mills had six or 12 sails covered in fabric or palm leaves. It was 500 years before the first windmill was seen in Europe.

12) Vaccination

The technique of inoculation was not invented by Jenner and Pasteur but was devised in the Muslim world and brought to Europe from Turkey by the wife of the English ambassador to Istanbul in 1724. Children in Turkey were vaccinated with cowpox to fight the deadly smallpox at least 50 years before the West discovered it.

13) Fountain Pen

The fountain pen was invented for the Sultan of Egypt in 953 after he demanded a pen which would not stain his hands or clothes. It held ink in a reservoir and, as with modern pens, fed ink to the nib by a combination of gravity and capillary action.

14) Numerical Numbering

The system of numbering in use all round the world is probably Indian in origin but the style of the numerals is Arabic and first appears in print in the work of the Muslim mathematicians al-Khwarizmi and al-Kindi around 825. Algebra was named after al-Khwarizmi's book, Al-Jabr wa-al-Muqabilah, much of whose contents are still in use. The work of Muslim maths scholars was imported into Europe 300 years later by the Italian mathematician Fibonacci. Algorithms and much of the theory of trigonometry came from the Muslim world. And Al-Kindi's discovery of frequency analysis rendered all the codes of the ancient world soluble and created the basis of modern cryptology.

15) Soup

Ali ibn Nafi, known by his nickname of Ziryab (Blackbird) came from Iraq to Cordoba in the 9th century and brought with him the concept of the three-course meal - soup, followed by fish or meat, then fruit and nuts. He also introduced crystal glasses (which had been invented after experiments with rock crystal by Abbas ibn Firnas - see No 4).

16) Carpets

Carpets were regarded as part of Paradise by medieval Muslims, thanks to their advanced weaving techniques, new tinctures from Islamic chemistry and highly developed sense of pattern and arabesque which were the basis of Islam's non-representational art. In contrast, Europe's floors were distinctly earthly, not to say earthy, until Arabian and Persian carpets were introduced. In England, as Erasmus recorded, floors were "covered in rushes, occasionally renewed, but so imperfectly that the bottom layer is left undisturbed, sometimes for 20 years, harbouring expectoration, vomiting, the leakage of dogs and men, ale droppings, scraps of fish, and other abominations not fit to be mentioned". Carpets, unsurprisingly, caught on quickly.

17) Pay Cheques

The modern cheque comes from the Arabic saqq, a written vow to pay for goods when they were delivered, to avoid money having to be transported across dangerous terrain. In the 9th century, a Muslim businessman could cash a cheque in China drawn on his bank in Baghdad.

18) Earth is in sphere shape

By the 9th century, many Muslim scholars took it for granted that the Earth was a sphere. The proof, said astronomer Ibn Hazm, "is that the Sun is always vertical to a particular spot on Earth". It was 500 years before that realisation dawned on Galileo. The calculations of Muslim astronomers were so accurate that in the 9th century they reckoned the Earth's circumference to be 40, 253.4km - less than 200km out. The scholar al-Idrisi took a globe depicting the world to the court of King Roger of Sicily in 1139.

19) Rocket and Torpedo

Though the Chinese invented saltpetre gunpowder, and used it in their fireworks, it was the Arabs who worked out that it could be purified using potassium nitrate for military use. Muslim incendiary devices terrified the Crusaders. By the 15th century they had invented both a rocket, which they called a "self-moving and combusting egg", and a torpedo - a self-propelled pear-shaped bomb with a spear at the front which impaled itself in enemy ships and then blew up.

20) Gardens

Medieval Europe had kitchen and herb gardens, but it was the Arabs who developed the idea of the garden as a place of beauty and meditation. The first royal pleasure gardens in Europe were opened in 11th-century Muslim Spain. Flowers which originated in Muslim gardens include the carnation and the tulip.

This is just a tiny list of inventions? You want more?
 
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You're obviously totally oblivious of the facts. Your so-called Muhgal empire was largely driven by Turkic, Mongol and Persian descent. It wasn't something that you Hindu's achieved as you like to boast about. In fact, you contributed close to zilch. The likes of Babur, Timurid and Aurangzeb are the real successors. This is actually what Turkic Babur had to say about you Hindu's:

"Hindustan is a place of little charm, but a lot of ricky corn. There is no beauty in its people, no graceful social intercourse, no poetic talent or understanding, no etiquette, nobility or manliness. The arts and crafts have no harmony or symmetry. There are no good horses, meat, grapes, melons or other fruit. There is no ice, cold water, good food or bread in the markets. There are no baths and no madrasas. There are no candles, torches or candlesticks."

Before you start getting cocky you should know your place. These people taught you the meaning of life.

Now, coming back to the endless list of contributions:

1) Coffee


The story goes that an Arab named Khalid was tending his goats in the Kaffa region of southern Ethiopia, when he noticed his animals became livelier after eating a certain berry. He boiled the berries to make the first coffee. Certainly the first record of the drink is of beans exported from Ethiopia to Yemen where Sufis drank it to stay awake all night to pray on special occasions. By the late 15th century it had arrived in Mecca and Turkey from where it made its way to Venice in 1645. It was brought to England in 1650 by a Turk named Pasqua Rosee who opened the first coffee house in Lombard Street in the City of London.

The Arabic qahwa became the Turkish kahve then the Italian caffé and then English coffee.

2) Pin-Hole Camera

The ancient Greeks thought our eyes emitted rays, like a laser, which enabled us to see. The first person to realise that light enters the eye, rather than leaving it, was the 10th-century Muslim mathematician, astronomer and physicist Ibn al-Haitham. He invented the first pin-hole camera after noticing the way light came through a hole in window shutters. The smaller the hole, the better the picture, he worked out, and set up the first Camera Obscura (from the Arab word qamara for a dark or private room). He is also credited with being the first man to shift physics from a philosophical activity to an experimental one.

3) Chess

A form of chess was played in ancient India but the game was developed into the form we know it today in Persia. From there it spread westward to Europe - where it was introduced by the Moors in Spain in the 10th century - and eastward as far as Japan. The word rook comes from the Persian rukh, which means chariot.

4) Parachute

A thousand years before the Wright brothers a Muslim poet, astronomer, musician and engineer named Abbas ibn Firnas made several attempts to construct a flying machine. In 852 he jumped from the minaret of the Grand Mosque in Cordoba using a loose cloak stiffened with wooden struts. He hoped to glide like a bird. He didn't. But the cloak slowed his fall, creating what is thought to be the first parachute, and leaving him with only minor injuries. In 875, aged 70, having perfected a machine of silk and eagles' feathers he tried again, jumping from a mountain. He flew to a significant height and stayed aloft for ten minutes but crashed on landing - concluding, correctly, that it was because he had not given his device a tail so it would stall on landing.

Baghdad international airport and a crater on the Moon are named after him.

5) Shampoo

Washing and bathing are religious requirements for Muslims, which is perhaps why they perfected the recipe for soap which we still use today. The ancient Egyptians had soap of a kind, as did the Romans who used it more as a pomade. But it was the Arabs who combined vegetable oils with sodium hydroxide and aromatics such as thyme oil. One of the Crusaders' most striking characteristics, to Arab nostrils, was that they did not wash. Shampoo was introduced to England by a Muslim who opened Mahomed's Indian Vapour Baths on Brighton seafront in 1759 and was appointed Shampooing Surgeon to Kings George IV and William IV.

6) Refinement

Distillation, the means of separating liquids through differences in their boiling points, was invented around the year 800 by Islam's foremost scientist, Jabir ibn Hayyan, who transformed alchemy into chemistry, inventing many of the basic processes and apparatus still in use today - liquefaction, crystallisation, distillation, purification, oxidisation, evaporation and filtration. As well as discovering sulphuric and nitric acid, he invented the alembic still, giving the world intense rosewater and other perfumes and alcoholic spirits (although drinking them is haram, or forbidden, in Islam). Ibn Hayyan emphasised systematic experimentation and was the founder of modern chemistry.

7) Shaft

The crank-shaft is a device which translates rotary into linear motion and is central to much of the machinery in the modern world, not least the internal combustion engine. One of the most important mechanical inventions in the history of humankind, it was created by an ingenious Muslim engineer called al-Jazari to raise water for irrigation. His 1206 Book of Knowledge of Ingenious Mechanical Devices shows he also invented or refined the use of valves and pistons, devised some of the first mechanical clocks driven by water and weights, and was the father of robotics. Among his 50 other inventions was the combination lock.

8) Metal Armor

Quilting is a method of sewing or tying two layers of cloth with a layer of insulating material in between. It is not clear whether it was invented in the Muslim world or whether it was imported there from India or China. But it certainly came to the West via the Crusaders. They saw it used by Saracen warriors, who wore straw-filled quilted canvas shirts instead of armour. As well as a form of protection, it proved an effective guard against the chafing of the Crusaders' metal armour and was an effective form of insulation - so much so that it became a cottage industry back home in colder climates such as Britain and Holland.

9) Pointed Arch

The pointed arch so characteristic of Europe's Gothic cathedrals was an invention borrowed from Islamic architecture. It was much stronger than the rounded arch used by the Romans and Normans, thus allowing the building of bigger, higher, more complex and grander buildings. Other borrowings from Muslim genius included ribbed vaulting, rose windows and dome-building techniques. Europe's castles were also adapted to copy the Islamic world's - with arrow slits, battlements, a barbican and parapets. Square towers and keeps gave way to more easily defended round ones. Henry V's castle architect was a Muslim.

10) Surgery

Many modern surgical instruments are of exactly the same design as those devised in the 10th century by a Muslim surgeon called al-Zahrawi. His scalpels, bone saws, forceps, fine scissors for eye surgery and many of the 200 instruments he devised are recognisable to a modern surgeon. It was he who discovered that catgut used for internal stitches dissolves away naturally (a discovery he made when his monkey ate his lute strings) and that it can be also used to make medicine capsules. In the 13th century, another Muslim medic named Ibn Nafis described the circulation of the blood, 300 years before William Harvey discovered it. Muslims doctors also invented anaesthetics of opium and alcohol mixes and developed hollow needles to suck cataracts from eyes in a technique still used today.

11) Windmill

The windmill was invented in 634 for a Persian caliph and was used to grind corn and draw up water for irrigation. In the vast deserts of Arabia, when the seasonal streams ran dry, the only source of power was the wind which blew steadily from one direction for months. Mills had six or 12 sails covered in fabric or palm leaves. It was 500 years before the first windmill was seen in Europe.

12) Vaccination

The technique of inoculation was not invented by Jenner and Pasteur but was devised in the Muslim world and brought to Europe from Turkey by the wife of the English ambassador to Istanbul in 1724. Children in Turkey were vaccinated with cowpox to fight the deadly smallpox at least 50 years before the West discovered it.

13) Fountain Pen

The fountain pen was invented for the Sultan of Egypt in 953 after he demanded a pen which would not stain his hands or clothes. It held ink in a reservoir and, as with modern pens, fed ink to the nib by a combination of gravity and capillary action.

14) Numerical Numbering

The system of numbering in use all round the world is probably Indian in origin but the style of the numerals is Arabic and first appears in print in the work of the Muslim mathematicians al-Khwarizmi and al-Kindi around 825. Algebra was named after al-Khwarizmi's book, Al-Jabr wa-al-Muqabilah, much of whose contents are still in use. The work of Muslim maths scholars was imported into Europe 300 years later by the Italian mathematician Fibonacci. Algorithms and much of the theory of trigonometry came from the Muslim world. And Al-Kindi's discovery of frequency analysis rendered all the codes of the ancient world soluble and created the basis of modern cryptology.

15) Soup

Ali ibn Nafi, known by his nickname of Ziryab (Blackbird) came from Iraq to Cordoba in the 9th century and brought with him the concept of the three-course meal - soup, followed by fish or meat, then fruit and nuts. He also introduced crystal glasses (which had been invented after experiments with rock crystal by Abbas ibn Firnas - see No 4).

16) Carpets

Carpets were regarded as part of Paradise by medieval Muslims, thanks to their advanced weaving techniques, new tinctures from Islamic chemistry and highly developed sense of pattern and arabesque which were the basis of Islam's non-representational art. In contrast, Europe's floors were distinctly earthly, not to say earthy, until Arabian and Persian carpets were introduced. In England, as Erasmus recorded, floors were "covered in rushes, occasionally renewed, but so imperfectly that the bottom layer is left undisturbed, sometimes for 20 years, harbouring expectoration, vomiting, the leakage of dogs and men, ale droppings, scraps of fish, and other abominations not fit to be mentioned". Carpets, unsurprisingly, caught on quickly.

17) Pay Cheques

The modern cheque comes from the Arabic saqq, a written vow to pay for goods when they were delivered, to avoid money having to be transported across dangerous terrain. In the 9th century, a Muslim businessman could cash a cheque in China drawn on his bank in Baghdad.

18) Earth is in sphere shape

By the 9th century, many Muslim scholars took it for granted that the Earth was a sphere. The proof, said astronomer Ibn Hazm, "is that the Sun is always vertical to a particular spot on Earth". It was 500 years before that realisation dawned on Galileo. The calculations of Muslim astronomers were so accurate that in the 9th century they reckoned the Earth's circumference to be 40, 253.4km - less than 200km out. The scholar al-Idrisi took a globe depicting the world to the court of King Roger of Sicily in 1139.

19) Rocket and Torpedo

Though the Chinese invented saltpetre gunpowder, and used it in their fireworks, it was the Arabs who worked out that it could be purified using potassium nitrate for military use. Muslim incendiary devices terrified the Crusaders. By the 15th century they had invented both a rocket, which they called a "self-moving and combusting egg", and a torpedo - a self-propelled pear-shaped bomb with a spear at the front which impaled itself in enemy ships and then blew up.

20) Gardens

Medieval Europe had kitchen and herb gardens, but it was the Arabs who developed the idea of the garden as a place of beauty and meditation. The first royal pleasure gardens in Europe were opened in 11th-century Muslim Spain. Flowers which originated in Muslim gardens include the carnation and the tulip.

This is just a tiny list of inventions? You want more?


Keep living in times 1000 years back.. enjoy dreaming. Its good for health.

RK
 
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Keep living in times 1000 years back.. enjoy dreaming. Its good for health.

RK

Shut the hell up you Hindu cockroach. You live as a low caste in your gutter India where you're regarded less than litter. :partay: Ever thought of hygiene? Hahaha... You just got owned.
 
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Shut the hell up you Hindu cockroach. You live as a low caste in your gutter India where you're regarded less than litter. :partay: Ever thought of hygiene? Hahaha... You just got owned.

Typical Pakistani response when they run out of logic. I am not amused my friend. .. Enjoy your five star Pakistan..

cheers

RK
 
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Typical Pakistani response when they run out of logic. I am not amused my friend. .. Enjoy your five star Pakistan..

cheers

RK

:yahoo: Just love empty one liners. Usually that is a sign of a loser. This isn't a typical Pakistani response. These are the bitter historical facts that you must choke on. I would feel inferior and insecure too if my religion divided my people into lower and upper castes. It's cruel and backward. I know that... So the next time before you even lay a finger on Islam or Pakistan just think twice.
 
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:yahoo: Just love empty one liners. Usually that is a sign of a loser. This isn't a typical Pakistani response. These are the bitter historical facts that you must choke on. I would feel inferior and insecure too if my religion divided my people into lower and upper castes. It's cruel and backward. I know that...

From Science to social science now ? have a look at these links;

1. Caste system among South Asian Muslims - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
2. Who says there is no caste system under Islam????

RK
 
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No, there isn't. You just got two sources? Is that all you got? Those are the only two sources that I've seen from Hindu's so far on this forum. One of them being an unreliable wikipedia source that can be edited by any loony. Each time you only copy and paste these two sources. You better start googling because these are getting old and boring... If one crazy Mullah brings out a decree it doesn't mean it's an integral part of Islam. Get that through your thick skull. Secondly, you Hindu's invented the caste system. Your religion encourages to hate, disgust and ill-treat lower caste. You discriminate against your own. I indeed am thankful to God that we Pakistanis today have our own home sweet home. Thank God! The Muslims are burnt alive and treated worse than second class citizens in incredible India! Imagine if Pakistan today didn't exist how all other Muslims would have been treated. I cannot stress enough, thank God!
 
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I posted these figures for Turkey and Atatürk bashers
 
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No, there isn't. You just got two sources? Is that all you got? Those are the only two sources that I've seen from Hindu's so far on this forum. Eeach time you only cope and paste these two sources. You better start googling... If one crazy Mullah brings out a decree it doesn't mean it's an integral part of Islam. Get that through your thick skull. Secondly, you Hindu's invented the caste system. Your religion encourages to hate, disgust and ill-treat lower caste. You discriminate against your own. I indeed am thankful to God that we Pakistanis today have our own home sweet home. Thank God! The Muslims are burnt alive and treated worse than second class citizens. Imagine if pakistan today didn't exist how all other Muslims would have been treated. I cannot stress enough, thank God!

Arrey Mian upna bhi ghar dekh lijiye... Hum badsurat hain to aap bhi koi choudveen ke chand nahi...LOL...


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