Why does China keep supporting Burma in the Rohingya crisis?

[beijingwalker]

Your standard of friends are those who go to war with you? the world hasn't seen major wars for almost a century, we don't tern friends that way.

 

[bluesky]

Unresolved partition/conflict. It is only crystallising now because Burma has largely solved its issues with the rest of its ethnicities (who btw never called upon anyone to annex them)...and can focus on finishing up on the population transfer that the British did not complete because of their hurried leaving (this was an issue that cropped up in Sri Lanka too)....with minimal fuss and maximum result (yes people get killed...like has always happened since time eternal).

Why talking of transferring the Rohingya population only and why not the region of Arakan itself as well when it and its people were transferred only in 1937 by the Presidency of Bengal to the Union of Burma (for an easy administration) both under the British.

 

[UKBengali]

Your standard of friends are those who go to war with you? the world hasn't seen major wars for almost a century, we don't tern friends that way.

So no one will fight with China then.
Ok, thanks for admitting this.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

Lol. Thanked by Barman savage and Indian/Pakistani butt-hurts.

LOL is that all?

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When it comes to Bangladesh, the major countries of this region... China, Pakistan, India, Sri Lanka and Myanmar are all on the same page.

BD will just be a part of the massive group of countries that play their part in keeping China boxed into E Asia.

A near friendless China can just sulk.

You can try your best, China went into direct warfare with both the superpowers during the Cold War, i.e. the USA (during the Korean War) and the USSR (during the Sino-Soviet Split).

If Bangladesh can bring more firepower than both the USA and the USSR combined then we shall eagerly await your arrival. Remember after all that both China and Bangladesh share a land border with Myanmar, so if you want to fight us you know where we are.

 

[UKBengali]

LOL is that all?

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When it comes to Bangladesh, the major countries of this region... China, Pakistan, India, Sri Lanka and Myanmar are all on the same page.



You can try your best, China went into direct warfare with both the superpowers during the Cold War, i.e. the USA (during the Korean War) and the USSR (during the Sino-Soviet Split).

If Bangladesh can bring more firepower than both the USA and the USSR combined then we shall eagerly await your arrival. Remember after all that both China and Bangladesh share a land border with Myanmar, so if you want to fight us you know where we are.

Add in two Chinese butt-hurts.

Lonely and friendless China thinks it can get to the top all by itself.

Anyway carry on annoying more countries - not that there is many more left for China to annoy.

 

[The Ronin]

This is the second time a "PDF Think Tank Analyst" saying nonsense about BD and Rohingya. Wonder how they get that title with this type of thinking.

How did we back-stab Chinese by rejecting Sonadia port deal? You can still cancel the deal at the moment before signing it if you don't like the terms and condition. Sondia could be another debt trap like Hambantota or involved Chinese naval assets in BoB. It's not like any other party got the deal, it was totally scrapped. If the deal was canceled at very end then it's not hard to imagine how much pressure US and India put on BD. Those countries are also important to BD, one is big neighbor and other is our major export destination besides other reasons. Besides Japan reported Matarbari has potential to become deep sea-port after survey. So scrapping Sonadia port project wasn't a bad idea when there's another option to avoid upsetting anyone. Nobody won, nobody lost. Remember our foreign policy, "friendship to all malice to none." Why risk relation with anyone for one port when we can build another in other place? If we really back-stabbed China how come they are still getting our other projects and access to our stock exchange instead of India? The two country even have strategic partnership.

And China Harbour Engineering was blacklisted later: https://bdnews24.com/business/2018/...arbour-engineering-for-bid-to-bribe-secretary

And unlike BD, China has most influence in Myanmar than any other country. Myanmar is part of OBOR initiative. Even though China missed Sonadia project, they will build another port in Myanmar not so far from Sonadia. Unlike us Myanmar still can't break our from Chinese circle. Then why would China risk their relation by taking stance against Myanmar in Rohingya issue?

And why Pakistan is coming in this thread? how the **** we back-stabbed Pakistan? Is it because of SAARC summit? The relation between two countries became sour after Pakistan protested about punishing war criminal. Besides there's a concern about security. If it's about 71 you can give it a rest. It's already clear who back-stabbed who. Their current and former PM and intellectuals already admitted that they did wrong in 71. Besides your country didn't even send the help when Pak army needed it in 71. So you better keep your mouth shut.

Tons of thread was created and will be about 71. Some Pakistan will admit but most won't and they will throw mud, we will throw it back and this shit will keep going until someone decides to shut this sub-forum for good. So if ya still wanna throw more mud there's a sticky thread for ya or come back there's a new thread about it.

And Rohingyas have to go back to Myanmar or any other places one day for better living. They can't rot here like Biharis living in those slums. They still have a slight chance to go back. And what do mean we denied Rohingyas basic refugee status? Govt, foreign countries and other humanitarian organizations doing everything they can with limited resources to ensure shelter, food, health-care and basic education for them.

https://reliefweb.int/report/bangladesh/350000-rohingya-refugee-children-get-education

Nobody is throwing them back to Myanmar. The repatriation of the first batch of 2,200 refugees was to begin officially on November 15, but it stalled amid protests at the refugee camps. None of those on the list agreed to return if their demands for justice, citizenship and the ability to go back to their original villages and lands were not met. So repatriation, relocation plans pushed back to 2019. Only one family willingly returned to Myanmar. And China and Russia is even making thing worse, if they think this issue is only between two countries then they should stop saying anything at all and stay away from giving veto.

https://www.dhakatribune.com/bangla...triation-relocation-plans-pushed-back-to-2019

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2...epatriated-to-myanmar-despite-un-safety-fears

https://www.thedailystar.net/rohing...vince-rohingya-return-accept-id-cards-1654732

https://www.dhakatribune.com/world/...-makes-rare-return-to-myanmar-from-bangladesh

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/dip...sue-between-myanmar-and-bangladesh-says-china

Yes refugees are trying to escape to ME, Malaysia, India etc , not only by land but also by air and sea. they are very few and most of them are still here. Border forces manage to stop some of them but i think most escapees get away successfully. As i already said sitting idly and living in those camp won't get them anywhere. They can get out of Bangladesh and go to anywhere for better life i don't care but the real problem is the fake Bangladeshi passport they use, especially when try to escape by air. This will create a bad impression about original Bangladeshi workers and might hamper our manpower export.

And BGB didn't seal off the border yet, they have plans to build road and put wall along with border but it's still not executed. They have only installed some border surveillance system to stop drug-trafficking and illegal border crossing. It's actually Myanmar who reinforced their border security with barbed fence, bunker etc. And why won't we seal the border if India-Myanmar can do that? Why would we need to seal the border just to stop refugees to escape. Border should be sealed of completely to stop intrusion, trafficking illegal drug, cloth , cattle, fake currencies but most importantly to stop armed separatist, rebel, insurgent or terrorist group from NE India, Myanmar and CTG. BGB is working on to increase border security to stop those armed groups from taking shelter in BD specially in CTG hill-tracts. Last time a BGB patrol was attacked by Burmese separatist and few of our soldiers were injured. Another thing is some of these thugs even harvest drugs (poppy) in our land near border. So we must seal off the border completely.

https://www.dhakatribune.com/bangla...ilding-bunkers-barbed-wire-fences-border-area

https://www.thedailystar.net/city/bgb-installs-modern-surveillance-system-83km-border-1599610

https://bdnews24.com/bangladesh/201...atists-exchange-fire-near-border-in-bandarban

https://www.dhakatribune.com/world/...emoval-of-cctvs-solar-lights-on-tambru-border

 

[Nike]

What the fuss here, you should never asked and push your ideal on why they (China) supporting Myanmar, thats China right and prerogative as a Sovereign Nation to decide oh how they conduct their Foreign policy. You shouldnt dictate other countries to do your bidding and working on your ideal, thats never work on diplomacy on two equal state with sovereign rights, what you should do is to find middle work and compromize to solve the problem.

Except you got the balls and massive economy and military power to dictate your taste and kind of democracy toward others. One thing is certain, China is bully but never as worse as US of A with all of their experience and expertise

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

So no one will fight with China then.
Ok, thanks for admitting this.

What about Russia and Pakistan?

China, Russia and Pakistan are all strong military powers. And they are all nuclear powers too.

Not that China needs any help to fight against Bangladesh. If push comes to shove we have a direct land border with Myanmar. Heck, even India itself might grant us land passage since they dislike Bangladesh just as much.

 

[SBUS-CXK]

Your username is ironic. Yes, Burma now enjoys support, as I also said...precisely because the Muslim World never did anything about Burma when it began it's massacring of Rohingya decades ago, and continue to not do anything about it as it's reached it's height.

That is exactly why I said you can't blame the West for everything. Their response to you is simple: "When we intervene, people hate us. When we don't intervene, they also hate us for not intervening". Do you not see the hypocrisy there?

Why would the West care? Maybe if it wanted to go into conflict with China it actually will in the future. But the only reason why China, India and others are in Myanmar is because WE failed to put pressure. The West put pressure and successfully got their poster-child Aung Sung Suu Kyi in power. But what did we get? Nothing because we never even tried!

Wait a minute, if my memory is correct... Aung San Suu Kyi is supported by Western. She conforms to all Western values. So the Western supports her "control" of Myanmar.

A Hong Kong film. HK actors play Aung San Suu Kyi

But now it's China's problem? WTF!!!
@Fortress @haidian @Nilgiri @bluesky @The Ronin @UKBengali

 

[UKBengali]

What about Russia and Pakistan?

China, Russia and Pakistan are all strong military powers. And they are all nuclear powers too.

Not that China needs any help to fight against Bangladesh. If push comes to shove we have a direct land border with Myanmar. Heck, even India itself might grant us land passage since they dislike Bangladesh just as much.

What is this with BD fighting China? lol
You are becoming like Indians at bragging how you can beat a country 1/10th your size.

Pakistan - quite weak conventionally and their efforts at fighting on behalf of China against US alliance will be negligible. US drones them at their pleasure and they are asking for IMF bailouts.

Russia - Could be useful but they will not lift a finger in Asia and so China is on it's own there.
Once China becomes more powerful(2025-2030) that they are scared of China, expect the Russians to go and join the Western alliance.


As for India, the official governments of India and BD are very friendly. Just now India will allow exports of energy from Bhutan and Nepal to BD and the Indians finally have admitted that there are no illegal BD'shis in Assam and are begging BD tourists to visit. One or two Indian butt-hurts are not a good barometer of BD/India relations.

 

[ghost250]

What about Russia and Pakistan?

China, Russia and Pakistan are all strong military powers. And they are all nuclear powers too.

Not that China needs any help to fight against Bangladesh. If push comes to shove we have a direct land border with Myanmar. Heck, even India itself might grant us land passage since they dislike Bangladesh just as much.

now u want to fight with bangladesh??!!lolzz..ahh, "think tank....ahaaaa..."..

 

[UKBengali]

now u want to fight with bangladesh??!!lolzz..ahh, "think tank....ahaaaa..."..

Quota of TTAs from each country needs to be met!

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

As for India, the official governments of India and BD are very friendly. Just now India will allow exports of energy from Bhutan and Nepal to BD and the Indians finally have admitted that there are no illegal BD'shis in Assam and are begging BD tourists to visit. One or two Indian but-hurts are not a good barometer of BD/India relations.

Ah so now India is your saving grace, what happens when they decide to push out all of their millions of "illegal Bangladeshis" (i.e. Bengali Muslims) into BD?

The world didn't lift a finger against Myanmar after they did that. Who will stop India?

now u want to fight with bangladesh??!!lolzz..ahh, "think tank....ahaaaa..."..

China and Myanmar are allies. Try to fight Myanmar in Arakan and make a bet that you don't end up facing the Chinese military too. After all, Arakan is of vital strategic importance.

Bangladesh has zero chance against China, Myanmar, India or Pakistan. That's just a fact.

 

[UKBengali]

Ah so now India is your saving grace, what happens when they decide to push out all of their millions of "illegal Bangladeshis" (i.e. Bengali Muslims)?

The world didn't lift a finger against Myanmar after they did that. Who will stop India?

You have comprehension problem?

India has carried out it's NRC exercise in Assam and has documented all it's Muslims as Indian citizens. Sorry but
it would not make sense for India to deport it's own citizens.

China and Myanmar are allies. Try to fight Myanmar in Arakan and make a bet that you don't end up facing the Chinese military too. After all, Arakan is of vital strategic importance.

What happened to urging BD to fight Myanmar to settle the Rohingya issue?
Did you not say that you explicitly chose to not have a mutual defence treaty with them?

Anyway, BD economy is booming and billions of dollars of investments in energy, chemicals and steel is flowing in from all over the world and so BD is content to let China suck the life out of the Barmans for now.

 

[Chinese-Dragon]

You have comprehension problem?

India has carried out it's NRC exercise IN Assam and has documented all it's Muslims as Indian citizens. Sorry but
it would not make sense for India to deport it's own citizens.




What happened to urging BD to fight Myanmar to settle the Rohingya issue?
Did you not say that you explicitly chose to not have a mutual defence treaty with them?

Anyway, BD economy is booming and billions of dollars of investments in energy, chemicals and steel is flowing in from all over the world and so BD is content to let China suck the life out of the Barmans for now.

Ask yourself why China considers Arakan to be of vital strategic importance. Then ask yourself if China would support Myanmar or Bangladesh in a war.

You have comprehension problem?

India has carried out it's NRC exercise IN Assam and has documented all it's Muslims as Indian citizens. Sorry but
it would not make sense for India to deport it's own citizens.




What happened to urging BD to fight Myanmar to settle the Rohingya issue?
Did you not say that you explicitly chose to not have a mutual defence treaty with them?

Anyway, BD economy is booming and billions of dollars of investments in energy, chemicals and steel is flowing in from all over the world and so BD is content to let China suck the life out of the Barmans for now.

So suddenly you have such huge trust in India not to deport all of their illegal Bangladeshis back to BD?

Illegal means illegal, which means all countries have a right to expel them. Not that Bangladesh could do anything about it anyway, they are an Indian vassal state.