Why do Pakistanis hate Hindus when it was actually the Sikhs they massacred and got massacred by?

[SarthakGanguly]

Which book ; BTW Saeed Naqvi is Indian or Pakistani

'Indian'
Being the Other: the Muslim in India

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

I don't want to derail the thread, but I think general Pakistani understanding of the capability of the Indian leadership to keep their country united is a very limited one. The Sikhs were the largest homogeneous group in Indian Army since centuries. It did not change after '47 despite some of the civilian leadership's apprehension about the risk of ethnic homogeneity against a civilian political rule. More surprisingly, it did not change either even after the assassination of Mrs.Gandhi. The Sikhs are still the largest homogeneous stock in Indian army. Over the last 70 years, Indians have mastered to handle its ethnic, linguistic and religious diversity issues in some way which is generally little difficult to understand in Pakistan, I am afraid. You don't have much chances of success here.

Which explains why Pakistan has been able to resist an enemy country that calls for the destruction of our race and nation for more than 70 years. Who is more than 7x bigger than us and has abundant access to the world's most advanced weapons systems whilst we are denied this privilege...........

That is the reality that indians cannot fathom.

I could not care less about sikhs in india now or in the past. I am just glad they got massacared by their own kind in 1984.................poetic justice for their crimes against us in 1947...............

 

[Pakistani E]

A mature thought. What then according to you is the raison d'etre for Pakistan?

It's a descendant of the two state theory. A form of a hybrid. It's a majority Muslim state so the ideas of Jinnah (rh) still live on, but it's no longer the state envisioned by Jinnah (rh) since majority of it's population, who were as Muslim as it's Western wing, decided to take leave and it doesn't accept all Muslims from the Indian subcontinent.

It is free from all of its previous burdens, it can be whatever it chooses to be.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

And because of idolatry. Kufr. Read Saeed Naqvi's book.


You are not a Pakistani. Just a Punjabi.

But definitely not a bengali or indian

 

[ranjeet]

They hate Hindus for FOUR reasons

DIVISION of Punjab and Bengal in 1947

Conquest of Hyderabad

Conquest of Kashmir

Defeat of 1971

To be quite honest and blunt ... hate is there because they couldn't make a clean and smooth detachment from the past culture of their forefathers. When logic fails, pure hate fills the gap to justify existence.

 

[war&peace]

As per se, I don't hate Hindus/Sikhs/Christians or even Indians. We hate only the fanatic Hindus who believe in killing everyone except Hindus and preach intolerance or and the Indians who are against Pakistan and Kashmir.

We wish to have relations like between different European countries but Indian govt is hell bent on taking its govt to a war either with Pakistan or China.

 

[SarthakGanguly]

But definitely not a bengali or indian

You are no different from an Indian Punjabi. You are as irreligious as any of us. TNT is dead in the likes of you and Kaptaan. Rosenberg is more alive instead.

It's a descendant of the two state theory. A form of a hybrid. It's a majority Muslim state so the ideas of Jinnah (rh) still live on, but it's no longer the state envisioned by Jinnah (rh) since majority of it's population, who were as Muslim as it's Western wing, decided to take leave and it doesn't accept all Muslims from the Indian subcontinent.

It is free from all of its previous burdens, it can be whatever it chooses to be.

Nahiiiiiiiiiiiii

That will spoil all my plans. I hope you never come to power.

 

[war&peace]

And because of idolatry. Kufr. Read Saeed Naqvi's book.

In Islam, we hate the sin but not the sinner.

 

[Pakistani E]

Nah. Just took steroids and got bigger. Become the "3 nation theory".

In a sense, that's not a wrong way to look at it. The seeds of the two nation theory are still there, it simply means that the two nation theory should have been five nation theory, Jinnah (rh) didn't go far enough, he should have demanded and insisted on 3-4 different Muslim states within the subcontinent, each with it's own government. That would have prevented the fiasco like 1971, since the local Muslims would have had their local rulers to demand accountability from.

 

[scorpionx]

Which explains why Pakistan has been able to resist an enemy country that calls for the destruction of our race and nation for more than 70 years. Who is more than 7x bigger than us and has abundant access to the world's most advanced weapons systems whilst we are denied this privilege...........

That is the reality that indians cannot fathom.

I could not care less about sikhs in india now or in the past. I am just glad they got massacared by their own kind in 1984.................poetic justice for their crimes against us in 1947...............

Internal stability of a multi-ethnic multi religious nation does not come from shared religion, or shared hatred against a common enemy but respect for constitutional rights and individual liberty. I can't put it much simpler than this, my friend.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

To be quite honest and blunt ... hate is there because they couldn't make a clean and smooth detachment from the past culture of their forefathers. When logic fails, pure hate fills the gap to justify existence.

I also believe that they hate Hindus because they LOST their "Empire"

They still look at Delhi and Agra with Nostalgia

And then we further RUBBED it in by KASHMIR And Hyderabad

 

[Pakistani E]

Nahiiiiiiiiiiiii

That will spoil all my plans. I hope you never come to power.

I don't intend to. I just think Pakistanis should be happy with what they have and who they are. And concentrate on building this nation to work for the welfare of all its citizens, and of course become militarily strong enough to eventually take back Jammu and Kashmir , since the cultural and religious bonds between Kashmiris in India and Kashmiris who migrated to Pakistani Punjab and Azad Kashmir are too strong to be overlooked.

 

[The Sandman]

That's the question i always ponder over when partition topic come up... OP have a point tbh but the hate for hindus imo today is because of Kashmir and terrorism in Pak.

 

[PAKISTANFOREVER]

Internal stability of a multi-ethnic multi religious nation does not come from shared religion, or shared hatred against a common enemy but respect for constitutional rights and individual liberty. I can't put it much simpler than this, my friend.

That may be the mechanics and semantics of how indian people work but it doesn't apply to us as we are so much different to indians. An indian can NEVER understand a Pakistani and we can NEVER understand the indian people.

 

[Stephen Cohen]

Internal stability of a multi-ethnic multi religious nation does not come from shared religion, or shared hatred against a common enemy but respect for constitutional rights and individual liberty. I can't put it much simpler than this, my friend.

Not just respect for any book called the Constitution
But the basic Nature of people is what makes a country

India has always been tolerant ; broad minded and accomdative

That is why all religions flourished here