Why didn't India nuke Pakistan?

[Patriot]

You've got to be joking !

He must be smoking some potent sh!t.

 

[King Solomon]

You've got to be joking !

If you are talking of 50 kT nukes, yes, at least 7 of them would have to be accurately dispersed to annihilate a city like Chennai, mumbai etc. Let alone towards military targets.

He must be smoking some potent sh!t.

Rather someone is having problem digesting truth?

 

[Su-11]

You've got to be joking !

He is not joking. Educate yourself - Federation of American Scientists :: Nuclear Weapon Effects Calculator

Size of Mumbai is approximately equal to New Orleans
Size of Chennai is approximately equal to Washington DC

 

[Armstrong]

If you are talking of 50 kT nukes, yes, at least 7 of them would have to be accurately dispersed to annihilate a city like Chennai, mumbai etc. Let alone towards military targets.



Rather someone is having problem digesting truth?

For the military targets we've got tactical nukes, from what I've heard, spiked with Plutonium (or some similar element...I've forgotten), to increase its yield ! 1kT of it is enough to obliterate anything in a one-mile radius and between the Al-Nasr, other battle-field ballistic missiles, Babur and Ra'ad...we have most Indian FOBs covered ! Lets pray to God there never comes a time when such plans are put in motion...!

As for the 50kT nukes not being enough to take out a city...oh my friend they are ! One such device on Lahore (my city) with a population larger than most countries...we'd be foOked !

He is not joking. Educate yourself - Federation of American Scientists :: Nuclear Weapon Effects Calculator

Size of Mumbai is approximately equal to New Orleans
Size of Chennai is approximately equal to Washington DC

More people died in Hiroshima and Nagasaki due to the ensuing radioactive fallout than the actual blast ! If a 50kT nuke is dropped on anyone of our cities....we are toast ! And so are you !

 

[Mercenary]

Too bad India is not a Western country or a white nation or else she could get away with nuking another country just like the USA got away unpunished after nuking Japan.

Read some history before making such uneducated statements.

The two nuclear bombs dropped on Japan ended World War II.

A land invasion of Japan would have cost 11 million lives vs 300,000 that died in the Nuclear Attacks.

Just a month before, the Battle of Okinawa ended in which 11,000 American Soldiers and 200,000 Japanese were killed.

70 million people were killed in World War II and 300,000 were killed by Nuclear Weapons which amounts to 0.4%.

 

[King Solomon]

For the military targets we've got tactical nukes, from what I've heard, spiked with Plutonium (or some similar element...I've forgotten), to increase its yield ! 1kT of it is enough to obliterate anything in a one-mile radius and between the Al-Nasr, other battle-field ballistic missiles, Babur and Ra'ad...we have most Indian FOBs covered ! Lets pray to God there never comes a time when such plans are put in motion...!

As for the 50kT nukes not being enough to take out a city...oh my friend they are ! One such device on Lahore (my city) with a population larger than most countries...we'd be foOked !



More people died in Hiroshima and Nagasaki due to the ensuing radioactive fallout than the actual blast ! If a 50kT nuke is dropped on anyone of our cities....we are toast ! And so are you !

In reality, the fallout is restricted to a very small area. Most peoploe assume one nuke is enough o destroy a city but that is not the case in reality. The argument still stands that you would need at least 7 accurately dispersed (if not, then even more) nukes of 50 kT to annihilate Chennai or Mumbai. Most population of those cities would still be alive if you just drop one 50 kT nukes for each city.

As for tactical, even India has them.

Please use this map to see for yourself the reality of a 50 kT blast in a city like Chennai, mumbai etc (it also shows you the radiaion aftereffects) - NUKEMAP by Alex Wellerstein

 

[Su-11]

More people died in Hiroshima and Nagasaki due to the ensuing radioactive fallout than the actual blast ! If a 50kT nuke is dropped on anyone of our cities....we are toast ! And so are you !

Give me some authoritative figures on how many died due to radiation, not from peacenik sites where they inflate such figures. Popular Scientific journals are a first.
Also, the Indian cities are built mostly with reinforced concrete, not wood and paper like the Japs. Main reason why there were many burn deaths.

 

[CorporateAffairs]

What are your views on Jinnah ? Do you think that a man suffering from the last stages of tuberculosis would want to have the 'last laugh' despite being one of the greatest proponents of Hindu-Muslim Unity in the beginning ! And yes I do agree that we have more in common with each other than with anyone else and hence, we should bury the past, and works towards a more constructive future. Our prime duty should be 'Social Welfare' for the people that live in the Indian Subcontinent !

Jinnah deserved to be the first PM of our country

only for sake of power hungry men, we were divided and Hindus and muslims were pitted aganist each other.

Many cities and states in India have Muslims as the majority and there we are happily united and living. I dont any reason Muslims in Pak and Hidnus in India can also do the same thing!

There was a special telecasted on occasion of India and Pak, 50 years of hatred.

Few of the Indian journalists travelled to Pak, and there they spent few days interacting with Pak citizens. Pak is so similar to India. Language, living styles, behavior, everything.

In that telecast, Paks said, we would love to come to India, and see how India looks like. And the answer was same from the other side of the border as well.

Bro, we are one in Head and in heart. India will never destroy Pak. A strong Pak is for India and vice versa.

talking about re-union would be a joke. However, imagine if we are like the US and UK. Hand in Hand and glove in glove? Imagine how we can prosper as partners. Business, relations, sports, import, exports, its a win win situation for us.

How the world would look at us? The US would shiver to do a drone attack on you guys.

Let the LAC be the international border, let us settle all issues and work together.

 

[ptltejas]

one thing is clear, informative thread with most technical details not run more. the thread with affairs discussion is favorite. the thread with the troll runs with number of threads. the pak is not so worst only those who say india going to destroy pak are headeache one.

The religions are Most Enemy of the humans. all the religion are the barriers of the human open mind. its bind them with unfree and justful thoughts.

The people of pak are not fullish they know very much better what their leaders, carode (core) commandars(pakistan core commanders known as Karode commanders as they are billionaires) and those religion leaders who not say just barks. without any sence.

one thing should be clear the claim of pak on kasmir might be not accepted by India but its not absolute Illogical and cruelity claim.
the claim might be seen by considering that lots kasmiris were the muslim or are muslims, and considering that religion what exactly kasmiris muslim needs. although the claim of ladakh district and jammu might be deducted from such claim. only kasmir district the claim is logical one.
however it does not mean that I am supporting such claim, although if kasmiris need so and by deducting kasmir in three district kasmir, jammu and ladakh the kasmir might be given to pak.
although pakis are build up with hat thought to india, text books of pak are full of anti india and indians. the mind are build up in such a way that pakis needs to do lots affort to be just and to remove those bloody thoughts about india.

 

[Armstrong]

In reality, the fallout is restricted to a very small area. Most peoploe assume one nuke is enough o destroy a city but that is not the case in reality. The argument still stands that you would need at least 7 nukes of 50 kT to annihilate Chennai or Mumbai. Most population of those cities would still be alive if you just drop one 50 kT nukes for each city.

As for tactical, even India has them.

Please use this map to see for yourself the reality of a 50 kT blast in a city like Chennai, mumbai etc (it also shows you the radiaion aftereffects) - NUKEMAP by Alex Wellerstein

There was an article posted the other day about how if Pakistan and India were to go to war...the radioactive fall-out would significantly reduce world agricultural output...even China would have had a decrease of (I think) 22%...I'm not a Nuclear Physicist so I wouldn't comment on this further but to me that sounds like : If crops suffer as China and other countries...then surely the People living within the cities would suffer even more !

 

[Su-11]

In reality, the fallout is restricted to a very small area. The argument still stands that you would need at least 7 nukes of 50 kT to annihilate Chennai or Mumbai. Most population of those cities would still be alive if you just drop one 50 kT nukes for each city.

According to the federation of American scientist site, Mumbai requires no less than 24 50 KT nukes if pakistan is looking to COMPLETELY annihilate it. Chennai requires about 6-7.

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Why did the Soviets and the U.S had thousands and thousands of nukes in their arsenals? Because Soviet and U.S cities are huge. Indian and Pakistani arsenals or 100 50kt nukes are like a drop in the ocean compared to the arsenal of the Superpowers.

So the Soviets and Americans were fools to have thousands of warheads while the smart Paksitanis and Indians can claim "Total annihilation" just having 2 digit nuclear warheads?

 

[Armstrong]

Give me some authoritative figures on how many died due to radiation, not from peacenik sites where they inflate such figures. Popular Scientific journals are a first.
Also, the Indian cities are built mostly with reinforced concrete, not wood and paper like the Japs. Main reason why there were many burn deaths.

Imagine what would happen to the 'reinforced concrete' when a nuke hits the city ! I read somewhere that the reason the Japs didn't suffer as much as much as we (in the modern world) would...is because they didn't have high-rise buildings in their midst and in our case...a domino effect (thats the term used) would follow ! Anyway...I'm not an expert on Nuclear Bombs...so I'd leave it at that !

 

[Mercenary]

The better question would be why didn't Harry Truman authorize MacArther to drop nuclear bomb on China when MacArther requested it during the Korean War when UN and U.S. casualties were heavy.

Here is a quote from one of the founder of Manhattan project for you to think about:
"I don't know what weapons countries might use to fight World War III, but wars after that will be fought with sticks and stones" Albert Einstein

Because Nuking China, which is a staunch Soviet Ally, would prompt Soviet Union, which detonated a nuclear weapon in 1949 to give Nuclear Arms to China and North Korea and turn the Korean War into a Nuclear War.

And might even launch a military attack on the Western Allies in West Berlin.

Truman wanted to limit the war to the Korean peninsula and not expand it by turning into World War III.

 

[Armstrong]

Jinnah deserved to be the first PM of our country

only for sake of power hungry men, we were divided and Hindus and muslims were pitted aganist each other.

Many cities and states in India have Muslims as the majority and there we are happily united and living. I dont any reason Muslims in Pak and Hidnus in India can also do the same thing!

There was a special telecasted on occasion of India and Pak, 50 years of hatred.

Few of the Indian journalists travelled to Pak, and there they spent few days interacting with Pak citizens. Pak is so similar to India. Language, living styles, behavior, everything.

In that telecast, Paks said, we would love to come to India, and see how India looks like. And the answer was same from the other side of the border as well.

Bro, we are one in Head and in heart. India will never destroy Pak. A strong Pak is for India and vice versa.

talking about re-union would be a joke. However, imagine if we are like the US and UK. Hand in Hand and glove in glove? Imagine how we can prosper as partners. Business, relations, sports, import, exports, its a win win situation for us.

How the world would look at us? The US would shiver to do a drone attack on you guys.

Let the LAC be the international border, let us settle all issues and work together.

Well thats certainly encouraging and yes religion was used by people on both sides to bring about a clash of between brothers ! I hope Pakistan and India can be as Jinnah said 'like Canada and the US' !

P.S Love Bhagat Singh...I used to be a massive fan of his when I was deeply influenced by Marxism !

 

[wakapdf]

Because you need balls to do acts of such stupidity... Why are mods even keeping this stupid thread alive, they should close this war and hate mongering thread. Peace is the only way forward, you are stupid to think otherwise