Why CPEC is haunting Guardian Newspaper? At least I don't know

[Nilgiri]

46 billion dollars is alot, with that money 46 Burj Al Khalifas could be made. CPEC will solve almost all of our economic problems - it's the way it is designed.

Over how many years is CPEC project money going to be spread? Do you have proposed investment flow anywhere or anything like that?

 

[Mrc]

Actually cpec is far bigger than 46 billion initial investment...
Both chinese and governmemt is expecting heavy investment in industrial parks once enough electricity is available.... thats why 35 out of 46 billion dollars are going into power production...
5 one gigawatt nuclear plants are on top of cpec....

The whole project is far bigger than what has been perceived

 

[airmarshal]

Calling Baluch insurgents separatists is dignifying them. They are terrorists funded by our enemies from across the border.

 

[VCheng]

CPEC will be a major trade route however as all the goods coming from Mediterranean, Middle East and Africa will have to go through CPEC. That means the goods of around 100 nations will have to go through Gwadar

That is 100% BS over-hype that will never come true. Simple geography and trade patterns support my assessment.

 

[SQ8]

Once the real and mental kids here are done having one liner arguments, the focus from what this article is saying should be less on what the CPEC will or wont do but what is being done to make sure it happens and the trail of displacement and inevitable angst it will leave upon certain parties who are inevitably going to be there since only fools plan on keeping everyone happy. That unhappiness may come back to haunt the CPEC and Pakistan as a hindrance in the project achieving its full potential later on.

The CPEC is China's last attempt to see if Pakistan is worth its time, but its been executed with the incorrect social and political environment in the country. Pakistan needs a massive holocaust of deranged social ills that plague it before it can even be thought up of fixing it. This is not a country that will gradually "fix" its social problems through good governance like its eastern or northern neighbours but rather due to its history beyond such "tortoise" approaches.

It is currently in a civil war that is in a stalemate (a military upper hand has little meaning when the enemy refuses to surrender), Balochistan can be tamed much like Turkey has done with Kurdistan and that will work for now, but the issue of religious extremism along with inherent corrupt mentality at ALL levels of society are more than enough to ensure that CPEC, along with pretty much many other projects are to end up like the motorway and metrobus regardless of monetary corruption.

Save god and (I pray) a divine flood that washes away many like the one for Noah, the country's only hope lies in a bloodbath by whatever little useful honest intellect lives in the military and middle class intelligentsia to purge the country.
Otherwise, we'll be seeing US troops in the guise of UN intervention along the Makran coast and in some parts of Karachi; and all the nuclear weapons will not keep PDF from crashing under the mocking of Indian trolls having a field day... after day.. after day.

 

[Zarvan]

A new Shenzhen? Poor Pakistan fishing town's horror at Chinese plans

Mega-port will bring five-star hotels and Chinese access to Arabian Sea, as residents in conflict-torn province contend with lack of water and food.

Gwadar is poor. When a house was recently burgled in the fishing settlement on Pakistan’s desert coast, the only items stolen were cans of fresh water – a staple that has soared in value since reservoirs dried up. It lies in Balochistan, a province in the grip of a long-running separatist insurgency and Pakistan’s most neglected.

Yet local officials dream of a future where Gwadar becomes a second Shenzhen, the Chinese trade hub bordering Hong Kong. Visitors are told that with Chinese investment the small settlement will become a major node of world commerce boasting car factories, Pakistan’s biggest airport and a string of five-star resort hotels along Gwadar’s sparkling seafront.

But residents are aghast, and not just because the fishing community, long settled on the neck of the peninsula, will be moved to new harbours up to 40km away.

“This is all being done for China, not the people,” said Elahi Bakhsh, a fisherman bewildered by the plans to turn Gwadar into China’s deepwater access point to the Arabian Sea.

Like others he complains of chronic underdevelopment in a district judged food insecure by the UN in 2009 and a town with only rudimentary health and education services. Bakhsh had not had enough water to wash his clothes in weeks. He and five of his colleagues turned down an offer of tea – the mandatory accompaniment to any meeting in Pakistan – in favour of bottles of mineral water.

“The whole area has been captured by the government with local people pushed aside,” he said.

If all goes to plan, the existing 80,000 population will be joined by another 2 million people over the next 20 years, including 20,000 Chinese residents, according to an official at the Gwadar Development Authority.

It was Dubai, not Shenzhen, that was being touted as the model for Gwadar’s future 10 years ago. But that initiative only succeeded in ruining countless property speculators. Officials say things are different this time because of the China-Pakistan economic corridor (CPEC), a project announced last year with pledges from Beijing of $46bn (£32bn) in investment loans.

It will help pay for the expansion of Gwadar’s currently unused deepwater port and the construction of a road network the exact route of which is subject to hot inter-provincial controversy that will connect the port to the Chinese border 1,800km to the north amid Himalayan peaks.

Pakistan hopes the corridor will turn the country into a critical land route for the world’s second-biggest economy. In theory exporters in Xinjiang will have a much shorter journey to the Arabian Sea and international markets than via China’s eastern ports.

In practice sceptics wonder whether trucking goods over one of the world’s highest mountain ranges will ever be cheaper than existing sea routes. They suspect China is more interested in Gwadar as a potential naval base near the oil supplies of the Gulf.

Ensuring security on long stretches of road in a province wracked by a persistent, low-level insurgency is the biggest challenge to CPEC. Fear of being outnumbered by outsiders from the rest of Pakistan is fuelling a violent rebellion in Balochistan.


The Pakistan-China economic corridor is a particular target because separatists see it as a demographic threat to the native Baloch, who are thought to make up just over half of the 8 million people living in the province.


“The corridor passes through what is currently the heart of the insurgency,” says Kaiser Bengali, an economic adviser to Balochistan’s chief minister. He said the notion that the two special brigades formed by the army will be enough to protect road traffic was “laughable”.

“If every convoy of trucks has to be accompanied by half a dozen tanks, armoured carriers and helicopters the cost is going to be exorbitant,” he said.

All five rebellions that have hit the province since 1947 were underpinned by Baloch claims that Islamabad exploits the province’s extensive gas and mineral riches for the benefit of the country’s ruling establishment in Punjab.

Pakistan says arch-enemy India also stirs up trouble. “Foreign adversaries have been more than eager to exploit any opportunity to destabilise Pakistan by harbouring, training and funding dissidents and militants”, said army chief General Raheel Sharif, who joined the prime minister in Balochistan on Wednesday for the inauguration of a section of CPEC highway.

The current rebellion was triggered by the rape of a female doctor by a military officer in 2005. The year before a car bomb killed three Chinese engineers in Gwadar.


Chinese visitors say they remain worried about security despite the elaborate efforts to keep them safe. Investors and officials from Beijing only move about Gwadar accompanied by military vehicles and only after all the roads have been cleared of traffic. The road is picketed with policemen at 50-metre intervals.


“For the locals it’s like being a prisoner in your own town,” said Shamshad Ahmed a retired army officer who has been coming to the town for years as part of his work at the Pearl Continental, Gwadar’s only five-star hotel that recently reopened after being mothballed for years. “Of course they are not happy about their freedom being taken away,” he said.

The sense of containment will only increase with plans to build a security fence that will completely surround the town as the port is developed. “Everyone coming in will have to show a residency pass so we can keep a record of who lives in Gwadar,” police inspector Chakar Khan explained.

Officials in Gwadar say the main town is safe, even if trouble remains in outlying areas. On 9 January two Pakistan coast guard officials were killed and three injured by a roadside bomb in the district.

Strenuous efforts have been made to secure the thinly populated but vast province, roughly the size of Germany. The military campaign to weaken a scrappy and deeply divided insurgency has had some success and in 2015 separatist violence fell 36% to 194 attacks, according to a tally of press reports by the Pakistan Institute of Peace Studies.

But critics say the army has disastrously mishandled the situation with improved security won at the cost of deepening alienation among the Baloch. Former moderates have been driven into the hands of increasingly intransigent separatists, detractors say.

Road users complain of routine humiliations at checkpoints where busloads of passengers can be detained for hours.

It is the issue of “missing persons” that has caused most anger. Intelligence agents, often accompanied by the paramilitary Frontier Corps, are accused of snatching suspected militants who “disappear” into secret detention sites. Many turn up dead in deserted areas, their dumped bodies often showing signs of torture.


Last year the provincial government revealed the bodies of 800 people linked to the insurgency were recovered between 2011 and 2014. It also estimated 950 people are still missing, although some claims go as high as 14,000 according to a 2013 report by a UN fact-finding team.

Where previous rebellions were led by tribal chieftains in northern Balochistan, who were amenable to cutting deals with the state, the current uprising is dominated by the non-tribal middle-class in Makran, the belt stretching some 200km inland from Gwadar.

And unlike in the past, rebels have targeted non-Baloch civilians. Human rights groups say more than 1,000 such “settlers” have been killed since 2006, including a teacher at a school where pupils were forced to sing the Pakistani national anthem.

Civilians from Makran complain of being caught between the insurgents and the Frontier Corps, who are fighting where the infrastructure for the China-Pakistan corridor is to be built.

“Fighting erupted when work started on the road and we had to flee our homes,” said Shahab Baloch, a shopkeeper from Hoshab who like many others was forced to find safety in a larger town. “People are living in miserable conditions but are too afraid to go back.”

In a sign of the rebels’ enduring local influence just 4% of voters turned out for a provincial assembly by-election in Makran on 31 December after insurgents warned people to stay away from the polls. A brother of one candidate was kidnapped while another had his house burned down.

Those who remain engaged in electoral politics have hardened their positions. Akthar Mengal, leader of the Balochistan National party (BNP) and a former chief minister of the province, said Pakistan’s leaders “look at us worse than slaves”.

“In their mind we are not a province of this country, we are a colony,” he said. “In the name of development they want to turn us into a minority in our own land.”

Efforts by the provincial government to negotiate a political solution with separatist leaders, some of whom are living in self-exile in Europe, are under way. But civilian politicians say they are powerless to restrain the military’s counter-insurgency operations.


Moderate Baloch leaders meanwhile say any deal with the insurgents must include constitutional protections for indigenous people, particularly in Gwadar where many residents feel more attachment to Oman, which owned the peninsula until 1958. Aziz Baloch, a BNP party official in Gwadar, said a system of work and residency permits should be established so outsiders would be barred from voting in elections.


Some hope the jobs and economic activity created by CPEC will weaken support for the separatists. Many locals are sceptical however, pointing out that people from Balochistan, with its tiny share of the national population, are entitled to only 6% of government jobs and are rarely qualified for the best ones.

A newspaper advert for jobs last March in Gwadar’s fisheries department offered senior, technical positions to Pakistanis from Punjab and only menial roles such as cleaners and guards to locals.

“The suspicion is that all the Baloch will get from CPEC is the right to repair punctures on Chinese tires,” said Bengali, the economic adviser.

Pakistan’s prime minister, Nawaz Sharif, struck a conciliatory tone in December at a ceremony to inaugurate a section of CPEC. He said Balochistan must have “the first right over all resources which have been explored in the province”.

But he also announced an upgrade for an existing highway running along the sparsely populated desert coast.

It would allow Chinese trucks to head east towards Karachi before going northwards on secure roads in other provinces, bypassing much of troublesome Balochistan entirely.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...shenzhen-poor-gwadar-fishing-town-china-plans

Should I have posted this? I mean this nonsense is -------well, I am already warned by respected Moderator. Its you, guys!!!

USA and UK and India all three would attack Gawader. ISI and Pakistani Armed Forces have to do lot of work.

 

[M.AsfandYar]

haha ok ok but still you should always remain positive about your country imo and that just pissed me off a bit fine i will delete my post

Oh believe me thats honey coming from him.

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

A new Shenzhen? Poor Pakistan fishing town's horror at Chinese plans

Mega-port will bring five-star hotels and Chinese access to Arabian Sea, as residents in conflict-torn province contend with lack of water and food.

Gwadar is poor. When a house was recently burgled in the fishing settlement on Pakistan’s desert coast, the only items stolen were cans of fresh water – a staple that has soared in value since reservoirs dried up. It lies in Balochistan, a province in the grip of a long-running separatist insurgency and Pakistan’s most neglected.

Yet local officials dream of a future where Gwadar becomes a second Shenzhen, the Chinese trade hub bordering Hong Kong. Visitors are told that with Chinese investment the small settlement will become a major node of world commerce boasting car factories, Pakistan’s biggest airport and a string of five-star resort hotels along Gwadar’s sparkling seafront.

But residents are aghast, and not just because the fishing community, long settled on the neck of the peninsula, will be moved to new harbours up to 40km away.

“This is all being done for China, not the people,” said Elahi Bakhsh, a fisherman bewildered by the plans to turn Gwadar into China’s deepwater access point to the Arabian Sea.

Like others he complains of chronic underdevelopment in a district judged food insecure by the UN in 2009 and a town with only rudimentary health and education services. Bakhsh had not had enough water to wash his clothes in weeks. He and five of his colleagues turned down an offer of tea – the mandatory accompaniment to any meeting in Pakistan – in favour of bottles of mineral water.

“The whole area has been captured by the government with local people pushed aside,” he said.

If all goes to plan, the existing 80,000 population will be joined by another 2 million people over the next 20 years, including 20,000 Chinese residents, according to an official at the Gwadar Development Authority.

It was Dubai, not Shenzhen, that was being touted as the model for Gwadar’s future 10 years ago. But that initiative only succeeded in ruining countless property speculators. Officials say things are different this time because of the China-Pakistan economic corridor (CPEC), a project announced last year with pledges from Beijing of $46bn (£32bn) in investment loans.

It will help pay for the expansion of Gwadar’s currently unused deepwater port and the construction of a road network the exact route of which is subject to hot inter-provincial controversy that will connect the port to the Chinese border 1,800km to the north amid Himalayan peaks.

Pakistan hopes the corridor will turn the country into a critical land route for the world’s second-biggest economy. In theory exporters in Xinjiang will have a much shorter journey to the Arabian Sea and international markets than via China’s eastern ports.

In practice sceptics wonder whether trucking goods over one of the world’s highest mountain ranges will ever be cheaper than existing sea routes. They suspect China is more interested in Gwadar as a potential naval base near the oil supplies of the Gulf.

Ensuring security on long stretches of road in a province wracked by a persistent, low-level insurgency is the biggest challenge to CPEC. Fear of being outnumbered by outsiders from the rest of Pakistan is fuelling a violent rebellion in Balochistan.


The Pakistan-China economic corridor is a particular target because separatists see it as a demographic threat to the native Baloch, who are thought to make up just over half of the 8 million people living in the province.


“The corridor passes through what is currently the heart of the insurgency,” says Kaiser Bengali, an economic adviser to Balochistan’s chief minister. He said the notion that the two special brigades formed by the army will be enough to protect road traffic was “laughable”.

“If every convoy of trucks has to be accompanied by half a dozen tanks, armoured carriers and helicopters the cost is going to be exorbitant,” he said.

All five rebellions that have hit the province since 1947 were underpinned by Baloch claims that Islamabad exploits the province’s extensive gas and mineral riches for the benefit of the country’s ruling establishment in Punjab.

Pakistan says arch-enemy India also stirs up trouble. “Foreign adversaries have been more than eager to exploit any opportunity to destabilise Pakistan by harbouring, training and funding dissidents and militants”, said army chief General Raheel Sharif, who joined the prime minister in Balochistan on Wednesday for the inauguration of a section of CPEC highway.

The current rebellion was triggered by the rape of a female doctor by a military officer in 2005. The year before a car bomb killed three Chinese engineers in Gwadar.


Chinese visitors say they remain worried about security despite the elaborate efforts to keep them safe. Investors and officials from Beijing only move about Gwadar accompanied by military vehicles and only after all the roads have been cleared of traffic. The road is picketed with policemen at 50-metre intervals.


“For the locals it’s like being a prisoner in your own town,” said Shamshad Ahmed a retired army officer who has been coming to the town for years as part of his work at the Pearl Continental, Gwadar’s only five-star hotel that recently reopened after being mothballed for years. “Of course they are not happy about their freedom being taken away,” he said.

The sense of containment will only increase with plans to build a security fence that will completely surround the town as the port is developed. “Everyone coming in will have to show a residency pass so we can keep a record of who lives in Gwadar,” police inspector Chakar Khan explained.

Officials in Gwadar say the main town is safe, even if trouble remains in outlying areas. On 9 January two Pakistan coast guard officials were killed and three injured by a roadside bomb in the district.

Strenuous efforts have been made to secure the thinly populated but vast province, roughly the size of Germany. The military campaign to weaken a scrappy and deeply divided insurgency has had some success and in 2015 separatist violence fell 36% to 194 attacks, according to a tally of press reports by the Pakistan Institute of Peace Studies.

But critics say the army has disastrously mishandled the situation with improved security won at the cost of deepening alienation among the Baloch. Former moderates have been driven into the hands of increasingly intransigent separatists, detractors say.

Road users complain of routine humiliations at checkpoints where busloads of passengers can be detained for hours.

It is the issue of “missing persons” that has caused most anger. Intelligence agents, often accompanied by the paramilitary Frontier Corps, are accused of snatching suspected militants who “disappear” into secret detention sites. Many turn up dead in deserted areas, their dumped bodies often showing signs of torture.


Last year the provincial government revealed the bodies of 800 people linked to the insurgency were recovered between 2011 and 2014. It also estimated 950 people are still missing, although some claims go as high as 14,000 according to a 2013 report by a UN fact-finding team.

Where previous rebellions were led by tribal chieftains in northern Balochistan, who were amenable to cutting deals with the state, the current uprising is dominated by the non-tribal middle-class in Makran, the belt stretching some 200km inland from Gwadar.

And unlike in the past, rebels have targeted non-Baloch civilians. Human rights groups say more than 1,000 such “settlers” have been killed since 2006, including a teacher at a school where pupils were forced to sing the Pakistani national anthem.

Civilians from Makran complain of being caught between the insurgents and the Frontier Corps, who are fighting where the infrastructure for the China-Pakistan corridor is to be built.

“Fighting erupted when work started on the road and we had to flee our homes,” said Shahab Baloch, a shopkeeper from Hoshab who like many others was forced to find safety in a larger town. “People are living in miserable conditions but are too afraid to go back.”

In a sign of the rebels’ enduring local influence just 4% of voters turned out for a provincial assembly by-election in Makran on 31 December after insurgents warned people to stay away from the polls. A brother of one candidate was kidnapped while another had his house burned down.

Those who remain engaged in electoral politics have hardened their positions. Akthar Mengal, leader of the Balochistan National party (BNP) and a former chief minister of the province, said Pakistan’s leaders “look at us worse than slaves”.

“In their mind we are not a province of this country, we are a colony,” he said. “In the name of development they want to turn us into a minority in our own land.”

Efforts by the provincial government to negotiate a political solution with separatist leaders, some of whom are living in self-exile in Europe, are under way. But civilian politicians say they are powerless to restrain the military’s counter-insurgency operations.


Moderate Baloch leaders meanwhile say any deal with the insurgents must include constitutional protections for indigenous people, particularly in Gwadar where many residents feel more attachment to Oman, which owned the peninsula until 1958. Aziz Baloch, a BNP party official in Gwadar, said a system of work and residency permits should be established so outsiders would be barred from voting in elections.


Some hope the jobs and economic activity created by CPEC will weaken support for the separatists. Many locals are sceptical however, pointing out that people from Balochistan, with its tiny share of the national population, are entitled to only 6% of government jobs and are rarely qualified for the best ones.

A newspaper advert for jobs last March in Gwadar’s fisheries department offered senior, technical positions to Pakistanis from Punjab and only menial roles such as cleaners and guards to locals.

“The suspicion is that all the Baloch will get from CPEC is the right to repair punctures on Chinese tires,” said Bengali, the economic adviser.

Pakistan’s prime minister, Nawaz Sharif, struck a conciliatory tone in December at a ceremony to inaugurate a section of CPEC. He said Balochistan must have “the first right over all resources which have been explored in the province”.

But he also announced an upgrade for an existing highway running along the sparsely populated desert coast.

It would allow Chinese trucks to head east towards Karachi before going northwards on secure roads in other provinces, bypassing much of troublesome Balochistan entirely.

http://www.theguardian.com/world/20...shenzhen-poor-gwadar-fishing-town-china-plans

Should I have posted this? I mean this nonsense is -------well, I am already warned by respected Moderator. Its you, guys!!!

Ah the British! They never change. I think they'll be enough to take all the burdens for all the Fesats and Fitnes of the present world on our behalf on the Day of Recompense!!

 

[genmirajborgza786]

From Hindu exterimist, to Anglo Saxons, to Zionists, to Arab kingdoms to Persians, they are all butthurt with this CPEC project. This should give us more impetuous to make it a resounding success, so we can rub them in their face later.

that's just too many conspiracy theories for one post

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

It seems like you dont know what CPEC is... If we just wanted a 'second port' and a road/rail link it would've costed less than 5 billion. CPEC is not all about just Gwadar. 46 billion dollars is alot, with that money 46 Burj Al Khalifas could be made. CPEC will solve almost all of our economic problems - it's the way it is designed. If we want a boom in economy we need to solve our energy crisis which holds back 2% of our growth; thanks to energy projects apart of CPEC - CPEC can solve that as well.

Here are the ENERGY ONLY projects of CPEC.

There is no such thing as center of trade. CPEC will be a major trade route however as all the goods coming from Mediterranean, Middle East and Africa will have to go through CPEC. That means the goods of around 100 nations will have to go through Gwadar, if that doesnt make it a center of trade then what does...?

Amin!! People forget that writs of history can't be changed. InshaAllah this CPEC will be the catalyst for the transformation of Pak to a different league. Only 14 years back Turkey was begging at the doors of IMF so much so that they sent an agent of theirs as her Finance Minister who was beyond law. Only after 10 years of a Muslim government loans were fully paid. Go ahead at full speed!!

Actually cpec is far bigger than 46 billion initial investment...
Both chinese and governmemt is expecting heavy investment in industrial parks once enough electricity is available.... thats why 35 out of 46 billion dollars are going into power production...
5 one gigawatt nuclear plants are on top of cpec....

The whole project is far bigger than what has been perceived

Your enemies have already figured it out and it's giving them sleepless nights..

 

[posedion]

From Hindu exterimist, to Anglo Saxons, to Zionists, to Arab kingdoms to Persians, they are all butthurt with this CPEC project. This should give us more impetuous to make it a resounding success, so we can rub them in their face later.

With Chabar Miles away this port will only serve Chinese interest nothing more and

Pakistan fate seems to be cruel..................... with China struggling over the next decade all the port and so called super project nonsense will come to a big zero

 

[Pulsar]

In practice sceptics wonder whether trucking goods over one of the world’s highest mountain ranges will ever be cheaper than existing sea routes. They suspect China is more interested in Gwadar as a potential naval base near the oil supplies of the Gulf.

Source: Why CPEC is haunting Guardian Newspaper? At least I don't know

Spot on! It has been calculated that the cost of transportation along the CPEC to Kashgar will be far more than the cost of goods being transported. And what is Pakistan going to export to China that China doesn't have already? Probably just ready-made garments!

And there's another problem the Chinese are facing - building infrastructure in disputed territory of GB which is against international law.

For circumventing this problem, Pakistan is planning to integrate GB as a province of Pakistan! What then would happen to the so called UN resolutions on J&K that Pakistan continuously harps about?

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

Once the real and mental kids here are done having one liner arguments, the focus from what this article is saying should be less on what the CPEC will or wont do but what is being done to make sure it happens and the trail of displacement and inevitable angst it will leave upon certain parties who are inevitably going to be there since only fools plan on keeping everyone happy. That unhappiness may come back to haunt the CPEC and Pakistan as a hindrance in the project achieving its full potential later on.

The CPEC is China's last attempt to see if Pakistan is worth its time, but its been executed with the incorrect social and political environment in the country. Pakistan needs a massive holocaust of deranged social ills that plague it before it can even be thought up of fixing it. This is not a country that will gradually "fix" its social problems through good governance like its eastern or northern neighbours but rather due to its history beyond such "tortoise" approaches.

It is currently in a civil war that is in a stalemate (a military upper hand has little meaning when the enemy refuses to surrender), Balochistan can be tamed much like Turkey has done with Kurdistan and that will work for now, but the issue of religious extremism along with inherent corrupt mentality at ALL levels of society are more than enough to ensure that CPEC, along with pretty much many other projects are to end up like the motorway and metrobus regardless of monetary corruption.

Save god and (I pray) a divine flood that washes away many like the one for Noah, the country's only hope lies in a bloodbath by whatever little useful honest intellect lives in the military and middle class intelligentsia to purge the country.
Otherwise, we'll be seeing US troops in the guise of UN intervention along the Makran coast and in some parts of Karachi; and all the nuclear weapons will not keep PDF from crashing under the mocking of Indian trolls having a field day... after day.. after day.

The journey has begun now. The train has left. We know many hurdles will come in a way, it is natural, why surprise or pessimistic? We will overcome those problems as a nation. What matter is that direction has set now, people are more aware than before. People know how manipulation occurs and propaganda works. You are underestimating us too much. You know more than me how we have completed our Nuke program. Pakistan can take on this challenge, i know, people know, nation knows, General Raheel Sharif knows. PAKISTAN KNOWS.
Its all about believe, we believe in Pakistan.
In Sha Allah, you will be surprised.

 

[SQ8]

The journey has begun now. The train has left. We know many hurdles will come in a way, it is natural, why surprise or pessimistic? We will overcome those problems as a nation. What matter is that direction has set now, people are more aware than before. People know how manipulation occurs and propaganda works. You are underestimating us too much. You know more than me how we have completed our Nuke program. Pakistan can take on this challenge, i know, people know, nation knows, General Raheel Sharif knows. PAKISTAN KNOWS.
Its all about believe, we believe in Pakistan.
In Sha Allah, you will be surprised.

Optimism is always good, but delusional tendencies arent. Yes, we have come a long way but at the same time the safety net has gotten shorter and smaller.

What you mistake as pessimism are screams of "wake up kutton".. yes . Kuttay. Pakistan is a nation of Kuttas. There is no better word for it, Faiz Ahmed Faiz said it..and he was right.. We are dogs, and will remain so until we either get our acts together in a rapid and massive way, or are culled and left to the streets by our own and others.

You are one of these Kuttas looking up to messiahs, like Raheel Sharif.. without realizing that you are yourself the instrument of change. But it wont happen by just you putting up Pakistani flags, or just you doing something on your own.. until your fellow Kutta gets up as well.

So Ill keep barking, and you will keep wagging your tail at Raheel Sharif.. but at the end.. most Kuttas are still sitting around in the dirt, scratching themselves, chasing other dogs, barking at them, licking and sniffing other dogs butts..or chasing their own tails. Change has to be put through smart management into these Kuttas and not through just "Tsunamis" or otherwise.

Otherwise, twenty years from now.. the CPEC will still have Kuttas roaming around it..

 

[PaklovesTurkiye]

Spot on! It has been calculated that the cost of transportation along the CPEC to Kashgar will be far more than the cost of goods being transported. And what is Pakistan going to export to China that China doesn't have already? Probably just ready-made garments!

And there's another problem the Chinese are facing - building infrastructure in disputed territory of GB which is against international law.

For circumventing this problem, Pakistan is planning to integrate GB as a province of Pakistan! What then would happen to the so called UN resolutions on J&K that Pakistan continuously harps about?

GB is not disputed, it is not part of Kashmir but only shares boundary with it. Corridor will pass thr' GB not Kashmir. GB always remained a separate region. GB got its own independence with sacrifices and an indigenous struggle and willingly acceded to Pakistan with no condition

It is a separate territory with separate culture of people living in there. They absolutely share noting with Kashmir REGION. People of Gilgit Baltistan wants a separate province and identity separate from Kashmir.

until we either get our acts together in a rapid and massive way, or are culled and left to the streets by our own and others.

Youth of Pakistan exists for a purpose.....We'll do it...All we need is just a little space and we'll show how bad-*** fanatics work. Its a race against time. We are aware of it, sir.