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China’s threat to stop exporting rare earth minerals to the United States may not give Beijing much leverage in the ongoing trade war between the world’s two biggest economies.

While China is the world’s leading producer of rare earths — minerals found in a wide range of everyday consumer electronics — Beijing’s ability to use them as a weapon is fairly limited, according to several analysts. It remains to be seen how China would structure a ban on rare earths, but some corners of Wall Street say the move wouldn’t be a game changer for Beijing’s trade negotiators.


“As a general premise, we are of the view that the impact on the U.S. would be mild, which is one reason why we are skeptical that Beijing would ‘pull the trigger’ on this particular threat,” Raymond James analysts Ed Mills and Pavel Molchanov said in a research note on Monday.

The official newspaper of the Communist Party of China warned last week that Beijing could soon stop exporting rare earths to the U.S. The threat came ahead of an increase in U.S. tariffs on $200 billion in Chinese goods that went into effect this past weekend.

Rare earths are a group of 17 minerals that aren’t actually rare, but are produced in fairly scarce quantities compared with abundantly mined metals like copper. They have become more important in recent years because they’re increasingly used in high-tech equipment, defense manufacturing and electric vehicles.

China mined 70% of these minerals in 2018, leading some analysts last week to raise questions about the impact to U.S. industries that are reliant on rare earths. But the U.S. accounted for only 9% of global demand for rare earths that go into the manufacturing process, according to Raymond James. That means the U.S. spent only a “modest” $160 million in 2018 to import rare earths for manufacturing.

“The reason is fairly straightforward: the U.S. has only limited manufacturing capacity vis-a-vis the high-tech products that are most commonly associated with rare earths. Consumer electronics (PCs, smartphones, flat panel TVs) and various industrial goods (electric vehicle batteries, wind turbines, lasers, fiber optics) are simply not produced in the U.S. on the scale that they are in China itself and/or its Asian neighbors,” Mills and Molchanov wrote.


Wells Fargo Investment Institute said the ban would put U.S. manufacturers that use rare earths in a bind, increasing production costs and even causing product delays.

But the firm also said the ban wouldn’t necessarily give Beijing a trump card. That’s because it’s unlikely China would be able to do much more than restrict supplies of rare earths to U.S. manufacturers.

“We have a hard time seeing how China could slap rare earth restrictions on consumer goods — goods that are produced inside China and are increasingly consumed globally — and not shoot itself in the economic foot in the process,” John LaForge, head of real asset strategy at Wells Fargo Investment Institute, said in a research note last week.

The impact could be greater if Beijing tries to dissuade non-U.S. companies from doing business with U.S. manufacturers that need rare earths, rather than just restricting supplies from China to American factories, Raymond James warned. However, China’s past attempts to limit rare earth supplies have not been very successful, the investment bank noted.

When Beijing slashed shipments in 2010, prices for rare earths jumped, creating an incentive for other countries to increase production. The measures also destroyed demand, as manufacturers found ways to use fewer rare earth minerals in their products.

A complete ban on rare earth exports to the U.S. is not practical because American companies can secure supplies from countries such as Malaysia and Japan, although at much higher costs, an official from the Chinese Society of Rare Earths told Bank of America Merrill Lynch in a conference call.

The official noted that 80% of U.S. demand for processed rare earths is for lanthanum and cerium, both of which are oversupplied around the world.

To be sure, the effects would be felt more acutely by some industries. Raymond James noted that U.S. oil refineries use rare earths in their plants, and Bank of America Merrill Lynch said it expects the automotive sector to be most affected.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/06/03/why...reat-is-no-game-changer-in-the-trade-war.html
 
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160 millions dollars import of rare earth mineral would create 10 of billions worth of tech product, if US have to pay 5x the amount for the demand of the same mineral import to the US, all tech product manufacture in US will have to sale 3x of the original product.
 
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Man, ban rare earth now plssss. CN simply cant stop FDI firm shift from CN to elsewhere.

Million Cnese workers alredy lost jobs. So, ban rare earth will make US-Jap firms suffer the loss,too.:cheers:
 
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160 millions dollars import of rare earth mineral would create 10 of billions worth of tech product, if US have to pay 5x the amount for the demand of the same mineral import to the US, all tech product manufacture in US will have to sale 3x of the original product.

US companies in China buy Rare earth from China and manufacture in China... :lol: banning rare earth to US wont have any impact as most US companies are already in China. Unless one ban sales to US companies, welcome to WTO sanctions.
 
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US companies in China buy Rare earth from China and manufacture in China... :lol: banning rare earth to US wont have any impact as most US companies are already in China. Unless one ban sales to US companies, welcome to WTO sanctions.
Majority of US chip company in the US, US still import 80% of rare earth mineral from china, no matter what US still need to find 80% of rare earth replacement from other country to import from.
 
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US companies in China buy Rare earth from China and manufacture in China... :lol: banning rare earth to US wont have any impact as most US companies are already in China. Unless one ban sales to US companies, welcome to WTO sanctions.
I didn't know US manufactured their defence hardware in China. But since you said it, it must be true.
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I didn't know US manufactured their defence hardware in China. But since you said it, it must be true.
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The hidden Chinese IQ must have found hidden words "defence hardware" in my post... And yes, rare earths are used only to manufacture defence hardware.. ???! But since you said it must be true.

Hidden IQ indeed...

Majority of US chip company in the US, US still import 80% of rare earth mineral from china, no matter what US still need to find 80% of rare earth replacement from other country to import from.

Well no. Intel, Qualcomm have manufacturing facilities in China and the other companies manufacture chips through foundaries in Foxconn and Flex mostly based in Taiwan, China and Korea.

What the US does import is for defence. Its companies however can easily circumnavigate those sanctions by moving manufacturing to China or Asia.
 
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The hidden Chinese IQ must have found hidden words "defence hardware" in my post... And yes, rare earths are used only to manufacture defence hardware.. ???! But since you said it must be true.

Hidden IQ indeed...
Hidden IQ says that these chips that need to be equipped with the defence equipment are manufactured in China? Not literally running my mouth about defence hardware.
You need to learn to grasps the post before coming into a forum and blabbering something else. You must be super intelligent. :D
 
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The official noted that 80% of U.S. demand for processed rare earths is for lanthanum and cerium, both of which are oversupplied around the world.
Some of the 17 minerals are only found in China. Even if they are only 0.1% share of USA rare earth minerals import, it will be a disaster if China bans them to USA.

US companies in China buy Rare earth from China and manufacture in China... :lol: banning rare earth to US wont have any impact as most US companies are already in China. Unless one ban sales to US companies, welcome to WTO sanctions.
Most American chip manufacturers are in USA. And don't forget about China's upcoming "unreliable entities list". No matter where the rare earth buyers are, China can ban them if selling rare earth to the companies in the list.
 
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Man, ban rare earth now plssss. CN simply cant stop FDI firm shift from CN to elsewhere.

Million Cnese workers alredy lost jobs. So, ban rare earth will make US-Jap firms suffer the loss,too.:cheers:

Perhaps more for Philippines, Thailand, and Cambodia. Less for Vietnam. Make surpssing Singapore take not 10 years but 20 years maybe. Sure Vietnam is part of CPTPP. But things aren't guranteed. Open market and sales mean consumers still have choice what to buy. You want Vietnamese products to have some success in the Japanese market, quit being so dumb and nationalistic.
 
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Perhaps more for Philippines, Thailand, and Cambodia. Less for Vietnam. Make surpssing Singapore take not 10 years but 20 years maybe. Sure Vietnam is part of CPTPP. But things aren't guranteed. Open market and sales mean consumers still have choice what to buy. You want Vietnamese products to have some success in the Japanese market, quit being so dumb and nationalistic.
If JP dont buy VN products, then we will sink JP ships in SCS( east VN sea).JP economy will collapse. JP car factories in Thai-ID-Malay will go bankrupted.

So, JP should pls think twice before making trouble for VN. VN control JP shipping line bro. JP can buy products from other nations, but 70% of JP merchant ships must pass through SCS( east VN sea) :cool:

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If JP dont buy VN products, then we will sink JP ships in SCS( east VN sea).JP economy will collapse. JP car factories in Thai-ID-Malay will go bankrupted.

So, JP should pls think twice before making trouble for VN. VN control JP shipping line bro. JP can buy products from other nations, but 70% of JP merchant ships must pass through SCS( east VN sea) :cool:

Spratly_with_flags.jpg

How old are you, 12? Why copy the bahavior of the CCP trolls on these boards? Do you have any sense about the workings of international trade and diplomacy?

Nevermind don't answer. The level of idiocy in that post is off the chart and it kills brain cells to engage it.
 
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If JP dont buy VN products, then we will sink JP ships in SCS( east VN sea).JP economy will collapse. JP car factories in Thai-ID-Malay will go bankrupted.

So, JP should pls think twice before making trouble for VN. VN control JP shipping line bro. JP can buy products from other nations, but 70% of JP merchant ships must pass through SCS( east VN sea) :cool:

Spratly_with_flags.jpg
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
 
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US companies in China buy Rare earth from China and manufacture in China... [emoji38] banning rare earth to US wont have any impact as most US companies are already in China. Unless one ban sales to US companies, welcome to WTO sanctions.
It will!

Do you think there is none US tech company use RE in US soil? They will be forced to flee from US.

While in Chine and world, china can pick which US campanies should be banned from RE supply, for example: Apple, foxconn will suffer for a while but if apple die it will be replaced by other chinese smartphone as new foxconn client.
 
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