Why China won't allow a Russian defeat in Ukraine no matter what it takes

[Beny Karachun]

Poland, and thus NATO, already pledged involvement in the war if Ukraine ever begins to lose.

Russian victory is impossible.
The only possible outcomes are Ukrainian victory or a stalemate.

 

[beijingwalker]

Poland, and thus NATO, already pledged involvement in the war if Ukraine ever begins to lose.

Russian victory is impossible.
The only possible outcomes are Ukrainian victory or a stalemate.

Who are you to talk like a prophet, lol, let's wait and watch, Russians are clearly getting an upper hand now

 

[Beny Karachun]

Who are you to talk like a prophet, lol, let's wait and watch, Russians are clearly getting an upper hand now

How? We literally begin to see T55s and T62s on the Russian lines whereas the Ukrainians are about to field Leopards, Challengers, Abrams and Patriot systems.

 

[beijingwalker]

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[Schutz]

Lol this forums got so many truly delusional people who are either paid by their government or just the international equivalent of people who support Trump.

How is Russia even on the same level of conversation as USA/Europe when talking military/economically, Russia is a fucking very poor second world country, and military speaking they are sending their best soldiers to take a tiny irrelevant city against a bunch of what were not that long ago Ukrainian peasants....and they are being massacred.

Russia is a non entity on a global scale, you may aswell compare them against the likes of Latvia or Lithuania, putting them alongside China/USA lol!!!!
And now no sane country will touch russian equipment, it's proved to be trash, and people here commenting NATO are running out of equipment? Lol, Russia fielding 1950s vehicles and weapons is proof they are.

China is loving this situation, they haven't had to do anything and they have got a weakened in terms of equipment but probably not what they wanted a significantly more unified NATO...but they have also got a weakened Russia who will bend over, Xi will tower over Putin and get whatever he wants from him, the start of reclamation of stolen lands, Russia's number one past time! (Russia is still essentially a fucking empire, look how many republics they have yet anti imperialists still love them because **** the USA right?).

China and the west is fine, we are both the significant trading partners and any talk that goes on with Russia is purely just standard protocol.

 

[Schutz]

How? We literally begin to see T55s and T62s on the Russian lines whereas the Ukrainians are about to field Leopards, Challengers, Abrams and Patriot systems.

Haha exactly, so much delusion here. Russia has mobilised hundreds of thousands, lost large amounts of their newest equipment and massive amounts of older equipment, lots of videos now are showing T-62 being destroyed etc, a T-90 isn't even close to a NATO tank in an engagement yet Russia has reverted to tech 50 years old...and they are winning apparently?

Hardly any land taken recently and high casualties, even looking at progress over the year it's tiny and if you look at casualty rate for what land they have gained it's highly unsustainable. Now Ukraine is going to be getting in the coming months a plethora of superior equipment its not looking good for the Russians, this is essentially a 1970s army though so I don't know why anyone expected otherwise, to much bullshit posturing over the years got Putin convinced he actually had a real modern military.

 

[mmr]

EU and US will immediately get a one way ticket to the third world if taking China out of their wealth maintaining equation.

Lol good joke. What ever china sell to wall mart can be done by any other third world country.

China don’t have the balls to send even a single bullet to Russia. Go ahead and send weapons openly like USA and EU and see what music Winnie the Pooh will face.

 

[beijingwalker]

Lol good joke. What ever china sell to wall mart can be done by any other third world country.

China don’t have the balls to send even a single bullet to Russia. Go ahead and send weapons openly like USA and EU and see what music Winnie the Pooh will face.

Since when China supports Ukraine war? China just likes to do business as usual and doesn't want to have anything to do with this war. By the way, Russia just downed an US drone in over international waters, why your almighty western masters don't dare to do anything about it?

 

[Beny Karachun]

Since when China supports Ukraine war? China just likes to do business as usual and doesn't want to have anything to do with this war. By the way, Russia just downed an US drone in over international waters, why your almighty western masters don't dare to do anything about it?

An Su-27 crashing into an American drone is a small price to pay for the destruction of the Russian army with 0 American casualties.

 

[beijingwalker]

An Su-27 crashing into an American drone is a small price to pay for the destruction of the Russian army with 0 American casualties.

So who will pay for it? Israel?

 

[etylo]

Since when China supports Ukraine war? China just likes to do business as usual and doesn't want to have anything to do with this war. By the way, Russia just downed an US drone in over international waters, why your almighty western masters don't dare to do anything about it?

Maybe your country of Bangledash should send weapons to Ukraine or Russia, get invovled in European mess ? Have the gall to always bash and ridicule China from a third rate country.

 

[Beny Karachun]

So who will pay for it? Israel?

Doesn't even put a dent in the US economy. Russia was probably hurt more than the US from the money needed to repair that Su-27.

 

[beijingwalker]

Doesn't even put a dent in the US economy. Russia was probably hurt more than the US from the money needed to repair that Su-27.

LOl, A slap in the face doesn't hurt as much as humiliation.

 

[Beny Karachun]

LOl, A slap in the face doesn't hurt as much as humiliation.

I don't think the US is humiliated, this incident just showed how incompetent Russian pilots are.
This whole conflict is a humiliation for Russia. But good luck for China, now people could confidently say China is the 2nd strongest military, since the Russian one turned out to be a joke.

 

[beijingwalker]

I don't think the US is humiliated,

It is what it is, no one cares about what you think and what you think will change this humiliation.

But good luck for China, now people could confidently say China is the 2nd strongest military, since the Russian one turned out to be a joke.

China just likes to have enough power to defend herself, she never seeks global domination as the west always does, our mind is always on economy, trade and improving Chinese people's standard of living and overall wellbeing.