Why China does not need democracy, how Chinese official selection system works

[sinait]

Right...So essentially you are saying that a closed electoral system do not have the environment for corruption.

Someone better tell Comrade Xi that.

The point is, Chinese officials selected through their merit selection process, continue doing their job well, corruption or not.
Case in point for China, Liu Zhijun, Minister of Railway, sentenced to death for corruption, built a working world class railway system that is envied the world over.

Singapore, Teh Cheang Wan, investigated for corruption but committed suicide, helped build our model HDB public housing that is emulated widely by other nations.

Whereas in the Philiippines, Bataan Nuclear Power Plant is a nuclear power plant, completed but never fueled, on Bataan Peninsula, 100 kilometres (62 mi) west of Manila in the Philippines.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bataan_Nuclear_Power_Plant

Corruption is undesirable, but difficult to eliminate totally, even in Singapore, but it is important to have competent officials that can function well, corruption or not.
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[beijingwalker]

Case in point for China, Liu Zhijun, Minister of Railway, sentenced to death for corruption, built a working world class railway system that is envied the world over.

This guy is very controversial in China, he built the world first class HSR system in China, uplifted China from one the worst to the unrivaled No.1 in the world in railway development in a very short time span. In other countries he could be hailed as a national hero but was executed in China for corruption. Do we need some one who is clean but incompetent or someone who is super competent and efficient but a bit corrupted to do our jobs?

 

[rcrmj]

democracy is a wonderful idea, just like communism, one is striking for political transparency, and one is aiming for absolute equality for all beings````however the former was ruined by the U.S and the latter was ruined by the countries like USSR and North Korea

 

[sinait]

This guy is very controversial in China, he built the world first class HSR system in China, uplifted China from one the worst to the unrivaled No.1 in the world in railway development in a very short time span. In other countries he could be hailed as a national hero but was executed in China for corruption. Do we need some one who is clean but incompetent or someone who is super competent and efficient but a bit corrupted to do our jobs?

I think China was practical and closed one eye on him, but cannot do so anymore because of the Wenzhou incident.
Corruption is difficult to justify whatever the merits and cannot be openly condoned or else the whole governance structure will rot away.
Those black cats good at catching rats must learn to clean their mouth better.
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[艹艹艹]

In many countries "democracy" has become an endless “quarrel”.

 

[beijingwalker]

I think China was practical and closed one eye on him, but cannot do so anymore because of the Wenzhou incident.
Corruption is difficult to justify whatever the merits and cannot be openly condoned or else the whole governance structure will rot away.
Those black cats good at catching rats must learn to clean their mouth better.
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I agree. But killing him is too much a punishment.

 

[sinait]

democracy is a wonderful idea, just like communism, one is striking for political transparency, and one is aiming for absolute equality for all beings````however the former was ruined by the U.S and the latter was ruined by the countries like USSR and North Korea

It all boils down to proper implementation of wonderful ideas, and China is in good stead by having proven leaders selected through a vigorous process and not in a popularity contest as in the US.
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I agree. But killing him is too much a punishment.

I guess they needed to show extreme deterrence, what with the US out to create problems with the Arab Spring, color revolutions and trouble in Hong Kong.
I read it was "death sentence with reprieve".
I presume ultimately no death.
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[gambit]

Democracy is poison to some countries ,Look at Libya,Afghanistan，Iraq .Worse than before.
"Democracy" doesn't bring them peace.

Democracy never guaranteed peace. Only people can guarantee peace. You think there is peace under dictatorships ?

 

[beijingwalker]

It all boils down to proper implementation of wonderful ideas, and China is in good stead by having proven leaders selected through a vigorous process and not in a popularity contest as in the US.

And a beauty contest sometimes.

 

[淼淼De微笑]

Democracy never guaranteed peace. Only people can guarantee peace. You think there is peace under dictatorships ?

It doesn't matter "Democracy" or "dictatorships".It does matter which regime can give people better life. So far "Democracy" doesnt bring Libya,Afghanistan ，Iraq people better life,things getting worse.

My conclusion is , there is no best regime,but only most suitable one.


"Dictatorships" Are you talking about Saudi Arabia or LEEgapore? it works perfectly particularly in LEEgapore

 

[sinait]

Democracy never guaranteed peace. Only people can guarantee peace. You think there is peace under dictatorships ?

The US brought much hope and enthusiasm for global universal peace with its democracy and melting-pot of different races after WW2.
Regrettably, what a big let down and dissappointment.
Preferably the US keep its meddling hands off over other nations trying to implement what they think its for their best or dictate how they should run their nations.
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[gambit]

Preferably the US keep its meddling hands off over other nations trying to implement what they think its for their best or dictate how they should run their nations.

Right...And ONLY the US meddled. Not the Soviets. Not China. No one else...

 

[beijingwalker]

Right...And ONLY the US meddled. Not the Soviets. Not China. No one else...

You must be very old and with a mind being stuck in the Cold War era.

 

[sinait]

Right...And ONLY the US meddled. Not the Soviets. Not China. No one else...

You are right, but the US is the most prolific at it by a long shot and its consequences most deadly resulting in the recent middle east migrant crisis and countless dead around the world since WW2.
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[Mista]

It doesn't matter "Democracy" or "dictatorships".It does matter which regime can give people better life. So far "Democracy" doesnt bring Libya,Afghanistan ，Iraq people better life,things getting worse.

My conclusion is , there is no best regime,but only most suitable one.


"Dictatorships" Are you talking about Saudi Arabia or LEEgapore? it works perfectly particularly in LEEgapore

Come on. No matter how authoritarian Singapore is, our system is still by and large a democracy where the leaders need to renew their mandate every 5 years. More importantly the legislative, executive and judicial powers are separate and act independently. Even Lee Kuan Yew has to stand in the court and answer questions as he gets scrutinized by other lawyers and the judges when his opponents defame him.

In contrast, Saudi Arabia is an absolute monarchy where the King controls all 3 powers.