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Why can't you sell burgers in Pakistan without sexualising women?

Pakistani men, like their neighbours, are sexually repressed and frustrated individuals. They get really touchy however if you talk/look at their sisters/mothers the same way they look at other women. It's borne from the fact that they consider women little more than baby producing machines or show pieces to ogle at. This is evident from the outrageous demands they put out when looking for brides, or if heaven forbid a woman ventures out of her home alone, etc etc.

Sexism is a part of life in Pak/India. An article or two won't change their mindset, some comments on this thread are proof of the hopelessness of the situation.
 
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Guys this is Marketing 101. For low involvement products (like gum, burger, chips) you normally go for peripheral route of persuasion. Ads would generally portray usage occasions/ emotional moments (young people having fun in a group etc) and the yummy taste should come out prominently across all that. For that you need someone to lick their fingers or smack their lips. You can either use a kid or a female for that. Men or family is a strict no no considering the category.

Kids would also be inappropriate considering the health concerns with burgers hence use of women. Where creative freedom ends and vulgarity begins depends on the country.

Obviously all these technicalities of marketing will be overlooked especially since the author's position is that of a moral brigade. I would suggest people to grow up and dissect the message in an article rather than just selling out or rejecting it verbatim.

p.s. any guy worked in marketing here ?
 
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these adds wont get past through the brainstorming session here in the uk. i can imagine the feminists going crazy over this "use both hands, open wide" dirty minded feminists:D. and can you imagine the guys would actually want to see the adds.
@mike2000 is back would you like to see these adds here?

Guys this is Marketing 101. For low involvement products (like gum, burger, chips) you normally go for peripheral route of persuasion. Ads would generally portray usage occasions/ emotional moments (young people having fun in a group etc) and the yummy taste should come out prominently across all that. For that you need someone to lick their fingers or smack their lips. You can either use a kid or a female for that. Men or family is a strict no no considering the category.

Kids would also be inappropriate considering the health concerns with burgers hence use of women. Where creative freedom ends and vulgarity begins depends on the country.

Obviously all these technicalities of marketing will be overlooked especially since the author's position is that of a moral brigade. I would suggest people to grow up and dissect the message in an article rather than just selling out or rejecting it verbatim.

p.s. any guy worked in marketing here ?
i forgot your into marketing and promotion. found a job yet?
would you like to see these types of adds here or not?
tbh if i did not see the thread title i would have assumed it was American, but im shocked that it Pakistani, did not see that coming.
 
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Why can't you sell burgers in Pakistan without sexualising women?
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We speculate on the nature and origins of grossly sexist advertising in Pakistan.

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One woman speculates on the nature and origins of grossly sexist advertising in Pakistan.
Have you seen the latest advert by popular burger joint Hardees?

Of course you have. It's the one where a woman invitingly opens her mouth only to have it sized up by a tape measure. The caption running across the image reads 'Big Enough?'

This advert adds to a long list of other, similar promotions by Hardees and other brands that sexualise women and co-opt their bodies for commerce.

Remember the ad about Hardees' 'perfect buns,' where two buttery soft burger buns were on the verge of being squeezed by a feminine hand? Or the one where the words 'Have me now' are spliced over an image of a woman's face? Or the one that madeingenious use of the word 'swallow,'also plastered right next to a decidedly female mouth?

And then we can't forget how eateryTable No. 5 used a decidedly sexist agendato push their products too.

Ads like this have been out of vogue in international markets for decades — their unabashed sexism made sure of that. There's hardly any reason for me to wax on about how these ads are heavily gendered and that too in favour of a heterosexual male audience, to whom sexual innuendos that hint at a woman's near-constant availability may appeal.

Why, then, do these ads continue to persist in Pakistan?

Naysayers will say these ads aren't sexist at all.

So we thought it best to preempt such comments and offer up our own speculations as to the ads' true nature and intentions.

Here are our thoughts:
1. These ads are an attempt to bolster the male ego and compensate for shortcomings, imagined or real
Case in point: this most recent Hardees ad reveals the frailty of the male ego and also, its misplaced optimism. What we mean is, look at the tape measure. The ad indicates that the size of the er, sandwich being referred to is 10 inches. Now, has anyone seen a Pakistani sandwich ten inches long? No, right?

We think it's safe to say this ad is your average Pakistani male's pipe dream (no pun intended) brought to life. And can't we all forgive a little (no pun intended) hope?

Of all our speculations, we think this is the only one that may stand on its own.

2. Women find these ads funny too
Yep, we totally giggle when we're being objectified and we find it just hilarious when we're being sexually taunted through billboards all over the city. Hahahaha.

Actually, no. The 1950s called: they want their sexist "humour" back. Why must eliciting laughter be done at the expense of women?

In a country where some men still think that red lipstick makes a woman, and I quote,"look a little too available with it, you know?", we are in no position to just laugh off such ads.

3. These brands are firm believers in the mantra that no publicity is bad publicity
It could be that like a needy significant other, the eatery just wants some attention. After allNando's manages to do that quite successfully with their own clever puns on chicken— so why can't a brand like Hardee's engage in a little harmless teasing too, right?

Wrong! I mean, seriously, mothers are not going to bring their children for lunch to your joint after school, or ever, if the walls are plastered with this:

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4. These ads are ironic, and are a commentary on how the male gaze consumes women
This is the most far-fetched of our speculations, but also the most wishful, because it would be really great if the intention behind these ads was to mock gender stereotypes and shame sexist behavior.

Unfortunately, we can't help but believe these campaigns are 100% un-ironic. If you notice, a lot of these ads showcase parts of a women's body, like they've been dismembered and the only the ones that serve the men a purpose have been retained. It perpetuates the concept that a woman's body is not connected to her mind and emotions i.e she's not a real person. The subliminal message? If a woman has a big enough mouth, who cares who she is?

All this brings to mind a similar marketing campaign by Table No. 5. The eatery wasin hot water after pushback on social media for its not-so-subtly-sexist ads, and they devised a plan to get back on track.

Whether they'vefollowed through or not is a different storybut maybe Hardees should look into doing the same because it's only a matter of time before the women stop being really annoyed by their ads and start getting really, really angry.



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Why can't you sell burgers in Pakistan without sexualising women? - Food
I've never seen anything like that.
 
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these adds wont get past through the brainstorming session here in the uk. i can imagine the feminists going crazy over this "use both hands, open wide" dirty minded feminists:D. and can you imagine the guys would actually want to see the adds.
@mike2000 is back would you like to see these adds here?


i forgot your into marketing and promotion. found a job yet?
would you like to see these types of adds here or not?
tbh if i did not see the thread title i would have assumed it was American, but im shocked that it Pakistani, did not see that coming.

Yeah got an offer at the fair. Thanks :)
 
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What a useless piece of writing, the writer decided to do something unique and came up with this trash. These FemiNazis are ridiculous in their objection of literally everything that involves women.


Hardees is really good, much better than Mcdonalds and KFC.

Well I hope so. McDonalds and KFC always score at the bottom of the ratings. Team USA | Page 56. Hardee's seems to be in the middle ground.
 
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Well I hope so. McDonalds and KFC always score at the bottom of the ratings. Team USA | Page 56. Hardee's seems to be in the middle ground.
We also have Burger King, Johnny Rockets, Fat burger & Subway--------------But i would rate Hardess above all these. PS you can find all these and many more in one place at Centaurus Islamabad.
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We also have Burger King, Johnny Rockets, Fat burger & Subway--------------But i would rate Hardess above all these. PS you can find all these and many more in one place at Centaurus Islamabad.
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Wow even TGI Fridays! hmm...according to wiki it's in 60 countries!!! ( T.G.I. Friday's - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia )

I have to snicker when I think of this place (albeit I used to eat there a lot) due to Office Space.

T.G.I. Friday’s Banned Flair Because of Office Space -- Grub Street
 
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Pakistani men, like their neighbours, are sexually repressed and frustrated individuals. They get really touchy however if you talk/look at their sisters/mothers the same way they look at other women. It's borne from the fact that they consider women little more than baby producing machines or show pieces.
I AGREE WITH YOU COMPLETELY ON THIS ONE. I have noticed that even here in Britain.
 
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I dont like my food being compared with something else other than food. Others can have their own opinions.
 
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Pakistani men, like their neighbours, are sexually repressed and frustrated individuals. They get really touchy however if you talk/look at their sisters/mothers the same way they look at other women. It's borne from the fact that they consider women little more than baby producing machines or show pieces to ogle at. This is evident from the outrageous demands they put out when looking for brides, or if heaven forbid a woman ventures out of her home alone, etc etc.

Sexism is a part of life in Pak/India. An article or two won't change their mindset, some comments on this thread are proof of the hopelessness of the situation.

Sir, you have thrown gross generalization on Pakistani men. It is not true. This is the same society who don't leave any guy who dare to touch or even tease random girl on street. We respect women generally. They are our mothers, daughters, sisters and wives.
 
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