Why can't India and Pakistan have friendly relations?

[MultaniGuy]

Your cinema halls were going to shut shop when your government banned Indian movies. Now they have allowed. Indian movies do good business in Pakistan. And Pakistani TV reports that Indian TV serials are very popular in Pakistan specially among women.

No they have not.

I never watch Indian films. None of my family or friends watch bollywood or Indian shows.

Only people with really bad taste watch Indian shows.

I am totally against screening Indian shows in Pakistan.

Same way how Pakistanis allow actors and actresses to work in bollywood.

India allows that, but many Indians are against that too.

 

[Joe Shearer]

I have and as far as I understand it, both sides Pakistan and India were meant to withdraw troops from the disputed territory with India allowed to keep some troops as a defense. Then Kashmir was mean to go to a election/vote to decide their future, but Pakistan failed to abide by the UN resolution?

That is just my general impression, if any posters can correct me then that would be very helpful.

You are precisely correct.

Please reach for your ear-muffs.

 

[MultaniGuy]

You are precisely correct.

Please reach for your ear-muffs.

He is and you are absolutely wrong. India does not want to implement the UN resolutions.

Even Shashi Tharoor when talking to Mehdi Hasan did not know how to answer him on Kashmir on AL Jazeera.

 

[Max]

If our influence is bad for you then please stop airing Indian movies and TV shows in Pakistan. They have far greater influence on gullible masses than a handful of Indians can do on pdf.

your Tv Shows are thing of past, now people make fun of those days when they used to watch that shitty stuff, they are replaced by Pakistani tv drama, films of Aamir Khan have nothing about ganga culture, they are message oriented films, they are just for entertainment, so i would like Pakistanis to download torrent and watch it at home, dont waste your money on indian film, also some filthy bollywood films are good to tell our younger generation that how different we are, right now, our film industry is doing well. Looking forward for Verna by Awesome Shoaib Mansur. I am sure it will be copied by 2 cent bollywood directors..

 

[Joe Shearer]

Why can't India and Pakistan have friendly relations?

Oil and water never mix.
More so, when you have Modi like PM in India backed fully by RSS/VHP/Bajarang Dal types.

Something that was plausible though during previous Indian government, yet it did not happen.

Less likely now.

Its bullet vs bullet on LOC on (almost) daily basis.

India has a trade deficit with China and a trust deficit with Pakistan.

Please think before you post, however much you hate the Modi dispensation (there are others besides you, but none so unbalanced).

If something was plausible during previous Indian governments, and is absolutely ruled out now, what was Pakistan's role? She can't make peace in a conducive environment, she can't make peace in a hostile environment, when can she make peace? By your definition, it doesn't matter what kind of Indian government there is, there will never be peace, because the Pakistani deep state will never change.

Think about it.

I guess that makes me a troll against India and China as well? I asked a question to try and understand the hatred between Indians and Pakistanis and you call me a troll? Again why are posters on here so defensive?

We can't face the truth about ourselves.

 

[Radio Mirchi]

How did creation of Bangladesh destroy the two nation theory? Bangladesh did not go back into Indian sovereignty. Bangladesh just became a separate nation.

The loss of Bangladesh was not a big deal, besides all that poverty into Pakistan would have been costly for Pakistan.

The fundamentals of 2-nation theory is -
1. Muslims are a nation. They are united by the religion.
2. Muslims can not live with non-muslims hence they need a separate Islamic nation.

Our doubt was based on -
1. There are over 50 muslim nations. If they were one and governed by same Islamic philosophy and governance then they should have been one nation.
2. Muslims have been living with non-muslims in many countries. They live in peace where they are in minority but where they are in majority or they are in sizeable numbers, the peace is gone.
3. Pakistan, since its birth, has never been a peaceful country despite being an Islamic nation.
4. Pakistan disintegrated in 1971 proving that 2-nation theory was flawed.
5. Bangladesh declared itself a secular nation despite being a muslim majority that means that as an independent nation they have no issues with non-muslims. Another reason to prove that 2-nation theory was flawed.

 

[Joe Shearer]

No they have not.

I never watch Indian films. None of my family or friends watch bollywood or Indian shows.

Only people with really bad taste watch Indian shows.

I am totally against screening Indian shows in Pakistan.

Same way how Pakistanis allow actors and actresses to work in bollywood.

India allows that, but many Indians are against that too.

There seem to be many Pakistanis with bad taste. Lots, in fact.

 

[MultaniGuy]

There seem to be many Pakistanis with bad taste. Lots, in fact.

Nice try, only a few Pakistanis watch Indian garbage.

I never do.

 

[Joe Shearer]

He is and you are absolutely wrong. India does not want to implement the UN resolutions.

Even Shashi Tharoor when talking to Mehdi Hasan did not know how to answer him on Kashmir on AL Jazeera.

Surprising how hard you ignore India, and then land up watching everything to do with India.

OCD, the doctors call it.

 

[MultaniGuy]

Surprising how hard you ignore India, and then land up watching everything to do with India.

OCD, the doctors call it.

I do not mind watching Al Jazeera.

But I do not watch Indian movies or trash.

Only people with bad taste watch Indian shows. Its simply patriotic.

 

[padamchen]

The simple answer is that Pakistan wasted 6 decades of Congress ruled India when the majority of Hindus actually were secular folk who looked at Pakistanis as warring brothers.

Now it's a different India.

There is going to be some serious killing.

You can feel the groundswell around you.

@Oscar was always right. I admit it today.

Cheers, Doc

 

[Joe Shearer]

Nice try, only a few Pakistanis watch Indian garbage.

I never do.

then how did you suddenly become an expert? what happened to the book you were writing about your years with an Abominable Snowman? You should be just as expert on that subject.

I do not mind watching Al Jazeera.

But I do not watch Indian movies or trash.

Only people with bad taste watch Indian shows. Its simply patriotic.

Patriotism is about good taste and bad taste?

If so, then judging by the amount of vulgarity and abuse in your posts, you should be shot by a firing squad.

 

[Finer]

The fundamentals of 2-nation theory is -
1. Muslims are a nation. They are united by the religion.
2. Muslims can not live with non-muslims hence they need a separate Islamic nation.

Muslims can live with Non-Muslims and they have for years given their integration in the Western world. But Muslims cannot live with Indians who are determined to elect Genocidal communal Modi.

Our doubt was based on -
1. There are over 50 muslim nations. If they were one and governed by same Islamic philosophy and governance then they should have been one nation.

Pakistan is different case. Pakistan was not motivated by the Islamic philosophy. Pakistan became independence nation to avoid being part of India that has historically maintained communal mindset towards Muslims.

2. Muslims have been living with non-muslims in many countries. They live in peace where they are in minority but where they are in majority or they are in sizeable numbers, the peace is gone.

Because their lands have been invaded and burnt to the ground by the foreign elements?

3. Pakistan, since its birth, has never been a peaceful country despite being an Islamic nation.

Pakistan has one of the best diplomatic relationship with China despite China's aggressive policy towards its Muslim citizens.

Pakistan has always been peaceful nation, even to the point that accommodated millions of Bengali from Bangladesh and millions from Afghanistan despite their hatred for Pakistan.

It is India that has been anti-peace nation given its sponsoring terrorism in Afghanistan/Pakistan, Sri Lanka/China, and even to the point, Nepal [suppressing] despite being Hindu dominated nation.

4. Pakistan disintegrated in 1971 proving that 2-nation theory was flawed.

2-nations theory would have been question mark the moment when Bangladesh agreed to be part of India. Why did Bangladesh claim independence - even from India despite Indian involvement to free Bangladesh from Pakistan? Because Bangladesh only supported India for their independence nation as Muslim nation.

And 2-nations theory is based on Muslim-Hindu. The fact that Bangladesh chose for independence as Muslim nation instead of joining with India who got Bangladesh their independence nation does suggest Bangladesh had 2-nations theory in mind.

Never mind the fact that 2-nations theory has been kept alive over and over again due to Indian Occupied and revived by Genocidal communal Modi, but even Bangladesh sought for its own independence as Muslim nation - the same that fought India for Pakistan as Muslim nation before 1947. That is kind of embarrassing for so-called pro-claimed savior.

5. Bangladesh declared itself a secular nation despite being a muslim majority that means that as an independent nation they have no issues with non-muslims. Another reason to prove that 2-nation theory was flawed.

Bangladesh is Muslim nation enjoined by majority of citizens that hate India to the core despite the friendly foreign policy towards India. Bangladesh hates India more than Pakistan despite 1971. Who are you fooling here?

 

[Joe Shearer]

Nice try, only a few Pakistanis watch Indian garbage.

I never do.

Actually I don't either, but you are copping out. Pakistanis do watch Indian films in large numbers otherwise theatre owners wouldn't squeal like stuck pathetic_ignorant_goons when those get banned.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

India is the eternal enemy.