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Why can't a billion people overthrow the Communist party and make China democratic?

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Quora is an internet forum, which has a very active and intellectual crowd. You should try visiting the forum.

whoever wrote that post on quora is a prime idiot, some liberal-type whom the west regularly employs in their regime-change operations... this happened in egypt in 2011 with nato promoted bloggers turning the egyptian people's angers/aspirations into a direction wanted by the western bloc... and that is how mullah morsi was installed into power by western bloc into presidency of egypt.

say no to overthrow of cpc.
 
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Have you people even tried reading any answers in that forum?

I post you some of the most common ones:

Answer 1 by guy called Kevin Wong

We can, but we don't want to, especially not for the reason of democracy.

In 1949, we overthrown the Chinese government and want to make China democratic, we established the Communist Party government.

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Imagining you have 2 options:
A. Enjoying the fast economic growth in your country every year, one of the best city infrastructure in the world, stable and safe society for personal career development, better education in China as well as opportunity sending kids to a foreign university for better education, and the ability of traveling around every year.

BUT, you do not have the right to elect your president directly.

B. Enjoying over 10 years chaos in your country during your golden age. Ruining the best city infrastructure, opportunity to be killed by a bullet every minute, being forced to join the army to support the side you may not support, no education for your children or even worse, and your children need to join the army.

After 10 years chaos, it may highly possible lead to neither democracy nor wealthy. (Last time we overthrown a government with the name of "democracy and freedom", we built up the CPC government.)

So, why do we bother to do that again now?


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Although a lot a dissatisfaction in reality, Chinese are still very satisfied with the country we have right now, according to polls performed over the past several years by Pew Research Center of US.

Most Chinese are satisfied with the country's direction, confident with the president right now, and love the country.

1. 87% of Chinese are actually very satisfied with the country's direction.
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2. 92% of Chinese are confident with the president.(Only 58% people in US are confident with their president. )
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3. Over 96% of Chinese have Favorable view of China, whereas 82% of USpeople have Favorable view of US.
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4. Also, the Arab spring from 2011, make people in Egypt becoming dissatisfied about their county's future.

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So, how on earth we want to "rise up and overthrow the government"?

Source: Research performed by PewResearch Center of US.
http://www.pewglobal.org/2011/03...

Note: Pew Research Center have a good reputation in US, to whom may suspect the solidity of the data, you can do some research about this research center.


Answer 2 by a guy called Cheng Xuntao

One thing to clarify. I'm not defending the government here. I'm only telling you honestly what's going on inside a Chinese mind, if you are interested.

Many (actually I want to say most) are not motivated to do that.

I benefited a lot from the CPC government, although I dislike the ways it works in several aspects. I have no idea about who to vote for the president, but I'm pretty sure I would still vote for CPC if there is a so called democracy. There is no comparable alternative.

In 2007, I have to travel more than 6 hours from my home to my university by train. The two cities are actually close to each other so there is no air route. The travelling experience was awful because the stations and the train were insanely crowded, noisy and not clean at all.

In the same year, a high-speed railway began to be constructed between these two cities. 3 years later, it became operational and went into business. What used to take me 6 hours now only takes me 1 hour and a half. And the service is good, not as good as airlines but it's reasonable. Since then we have less crowded waiting areas in stations, clean restrooms inside the train, comfortable and adjustable seats, easy-to-book and easy-to-collect tickets, and fast speed. If you have never lived in China, you don't know how important this is. I book a ticket, go and arrive in home for a family reunion whenever I want because the train is super fast and affordable.

The super fast train is not the only part that matters because the bus to the train station still takes time. But a subway was ready soon after the high-speed railway went into business. The whole thing is well planned and implemented pretty well.

1 year later, the minister in charge of the railways, Liu Zhijun, was caught because of his corruption. That's bad. But I love the high-speed railways. It saved a tremendous amount of time for me and changed my life.

For me, I almost get everything I want from the government except clean air. The government waived my tuition fees when I was in elementary and secondary schools. And my tuition fee for university is very cheap because it's a top one funded by the government. Government funding even supported my overseas exchange program and club activities when I was in college. There is serious unfairness in China's education but that has little to do with the 'communist' nature of the government but more related to the 'developing' nature of the country which the CPC government has been working hard on. We complain about the government's limited efficiency. But it's still progressive and progressive enough to make most people satisfied.

Now, you tell me, why I want to risk so many things including all those unpredictable factors to rise up and turn the government over? I am not in love with the government in every possible way but I am not motivated to end it.

Be realistic. See what happened in Scotland when some want to get rid of the union government. That's something too hard to be done in a nice way.
 
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whoever wrote that post on quora is a prime idiot, some liberal-type whom the west regularly employs in their regime-change operations... this happened in egypt in 2011 with nato promoted bloggers turning the egyptian people's angers/aspirations into a direction wanted by the western bloc... and that is how mullah morsi was installed into power by western bloc into presidency of egypt.

say no to overthrow of cpc.
These democracy fanatics are no different than the radical terrorists. They stop at nothing until everyone is turned into a "believer".
 
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These democracy fanatics are no different than the radical terrorists. They stop at nothing until everyone is turned into a "believer".

It's not about democracy...but then you are ruled by a single party and you don't have another option. China is like an enormous factory with just one boss..I hear even your army, navy and air force is owned by the ccp and not really what one would call a proper army.
 
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China is no longer a strictly Communist country anyway. Chinese people will slowly change their system, Chinese rulers know this too. The change will come with in the Communist party. It has all ready been happening. Look at the way they are dealing with corrupt officials. Over a Billion people can never be forced to live under a system they don't like. If some enemies of China are hoping for violent change then they should make realise that Chinese people are not stupid. They will put their country first before talking taking any lectures from Indians or some folks sitting in Washington or Brussels.
 
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It's not about democracy...but then you are ruled by a single party and you don't have another option. China is like an enormous factory with just one boss..I hear even your army, navy and air force is owned by the ccp and not really what one would call a proper army.
How many "options" do you really have? Kindly list them? Can you have 1.3 billion presidents? Do you not have to work to earn your living? Do you "elect" your boss at work? So your god is the best, your system is the best. Good for you. But if you want to turn China into Egypt you have to try harder, much harder.
 
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Ask the people in Libya. They had the highest standard of living in the Middle East. No tax, free education, cheap oil, cheap everything. They overthrow the government for democracy. Yes they did overthrow a tyrant. Now they have nothing. Not even freedom. But they have many mini tyrants now.

There is an ancient Chinese proverb. An ocean will float or sink a boat.

Chinese people decided to float it.
 
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I request everyone to read the answers in the forum. The answers mostly by Chinese members there were quite good, and balanced.
 
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