Why Aurangzeb's Reputation As A Tyrant And Bigot Doesn't Stand The Test Of History

[Paragkhadse259]

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[Paragkhadse259]

Its obvious why Hindus would have a bee up their *** about Aurangzeb, reality was under his rule the Mughal empire was spread to its Zenith

Like all empires it came to its natural conclusion

The indian muslim community needs a fighter and defender not a sell out


Muslims across the border (i assume you mean Pakistan ) are free and have 150+ nuclear warheads pointed at you to end your Akhand Bharat if you ever step out of place

Subcontinent's prosperity was at its zenith before Aurangazeb's rule thanks to Legacy of Akbar and his descendants.

However during Aurangazeb it was EMPIRE which was at his zenith while the masses were in rags of poverity.

This can be compared as Zardari/Nawaz/Congressi Nehru Gandhi ruling our contries where rulers reach zenith while nation reaches bottom in prosperity.

Yes I meant all muslims around globe including Pakistan. They are already facing problems due to likes of Osamas, Bagdadis, Talibans, LeTs.

One more Radical of Aurangazeb's calibre will bring more hardship to their life irrespective of country they live. That's what i mean by muslim across borders.

And i am not interested in meaningless talks but let me tell you the Term Bharat previal since 7000+ years and it will keep shining for few thousand years more. A nation which is just 70 odd year old should first learn to secure itself for a century or two before talking destruction of something which is 7-8 times bigger in size.

All the best for wet dreams though.

 

[Mamluk]

However during Aurangazeb it was EMPIRE which was at his zenith while the masses were in rags of poverity.

Masses were always in poverty. Until modern times all wealth of any kingdom/empire was always concentrated in the hands of few families.

Indian school education needs to be updated with reality. Ultra nationalism creates distorted world view.

 

[Optimus_Prime]

And i am not interested in meaningless talks but let me tell you the Term Bharat previal since 7000+ years

That is a lie and nothing but RSS mumbo jumbo. Hinduism is not that old. Before that most People in what today is known as India, were aboriginal animist. True indians are andamanese and south indians.

 

[Mamluk]

That is a lie and nothing but RSS mumbo jumbo. Hinduism is not that old. Before that most People in what today is known as India, were aboriginal animist. True indians are andamanese and south indians.

Bharat was one of the Vedic Aryan tribes. The Vedic people started invading India around 1400 BC. On what basis do they claim Bharat existed 7000+ years ago? Lol - RSS mumbo jumbo indeed.

 

[Optimus_Prime]

Bharat was one of the Vedic Aryan tribes. The Vedic people started invading India around 1400 BC. On what basis do they claim Bharat existed 7000+ years ago? Lol - RSS mumbo jumbo indeed.

And all that crying about muslim invaders.
Indo-aryans migrated from Pontic steppes and basically mass murdered the indigineous aborigines.

 

[hussain0216]

Subcontinent's prosperity was at its zenith before Aurangazeb's rule thanks to Legacy of Akbar and his descendants.

However during Aurangazeb it was EMPIRE which was at his zenith while the masses were in rags of poverity.

This can be compared as Zardari/Nawaz/Congressi Nehru Gandhi ruling our contries where rulers reach zenith while nation reaches bottom in prosperity.

Yes I meant all muslims around globe including Pakistan. They are already facing problems due to likes of Osamas, Bagdadis, Talibans, LeTs.

One more Radical of Aurangazeb's calibre will bring more hardship to their life irrespective of country they live. That's what i mean by muslim across borders.

And i am not interested in meaningless talks but let me tell you the Term Bharat previal since 7000+ years and it will keep shining for few thousand years more. A nation which is just 70 odd year old should first learn to secure itself for a century or two before talking destruction of something which is 7-8 times bigger in size.

All the best for wet dreams though.

Aurangzeb is not isolated from the rest of the Mughals, and under that empire they india reached its Zenith in terms of riches and prosperity

Islam is the fastest growing faith in the world, it will become the largest in the coming decades, ruthless or not is a futile argument, it depends on Power

Once you have power whether your leader is ruthless or benign you are able to force the agenda. The muslim world is big and power will return and a leader like Aurangzeb is a real possibility



Pakistan and India were established at the same time
We are in fact a day older than you

The rest is bull shit, there was no india, no bharat, no state just the usual kings and small kngdoms

You are 3 and a half times bigger but your population is enormous but dont worry we will build enough war heads to turn you to dust

 

[Paragkhadse259]

That is a lie and nothing but RSS mumbo jumbo. Hinduism is not that old. Before that most People in what today is known as India, were aboriginal animist. True indians are andamanese and south indians.

We indians have scriptures hinduism and buddhism as old as 3000 years old to know our history of Bharat. Chinese & Tibetian texts too confirms it.

People converted few centuries back have their own confusing concepts or scattered references from western books which doesn't matter us.

 

[Mamluk]

We indians have scriptures hinduism and buddhism as old as 3000 years old to know our history of Bharat. Chinese & Tibetian texts too confirms it.

Refer to post #20. 3000 year old hindu scripture does not contradict what I said.

 

[Optimus_Prime]

People converted few centuries back have their own confusing concepts or scattered references from western books which doesn't matter us.

Sorry dude but i trust western scholars, and most sane people do the same. Hindutva "historians" are just for laughs.

 

[Water Car Engineer]

There've been many, 'Aurangzebs', throughout Indian history which were Hindu, Buddhist, etc.

Honestly, at this point, I will never relate to these fewer than 1% aristocracy that thought they were well than above the regular masses. I've more in common with the commoners, than them, regardless of faith.

Still today I have more in common with commoners, than I do with todays elite.

People talk about corrupt politicians, dictators, etc. than what do you have in common with them? Regardless of faith? They had total and absolute control over you, do you like any such examples today?

 

[Paragkhadse259]

Aurangzeb is not isolated from the rest of the Mughals, and under that empire they india reached its Zenith in terms of riches and prosperity

Islam is the fastest growing faith in the world, it will become the largest in the coming decades, ruthless or not is a futile argument, it depends on Power

Once you have power whether your leader is ruthless or benign you are able to force the agenda. The muslim world is big and power will return and a leader like Aurangzeb is a real possibility



Pakistan and India were established at the same time
We are in fact a day older than you

The rest is bull shit, there was no india, no bharat, no state just the usual kings and small kngdoms

You are 3 and a half times bigger but your population is enormous but dont worry we will build enough war heads to turn you to dust

Akbar and his descendants till Shahjahan belonged to different creed of Rulers. India flourished under their reign.

While Aurangazeb initially looted the masses and then bankrupted the treasure in futile 27 year war with marathas.

Haha we see Aurangazeb as a comic goon who despite powerful army could not win a single Fort from Marathas (without a organised army) for a decade.

Regarding creation of Pakistan and India over views will never match. Aryawatt, Jambu-dweep, Bharat and India for us dates back prior to Ramayana (5500 yr old) and Gautam Buddha (2000 yr old)

And i am least interested in delusionary competition talks with guys who talks war knowing their historical surrender of 92000 soldiers ( Largest after WW2 ) in 1971. [emoji23]
As we already have enough warhead to demolish them TWICE in our arsenal on time.

I rest my case here.

 

[bananarepublic]

i believe most of the mughals were tyrants the build lavish building for their personal use they drank wine and enjoyed the most lavish of food and clothes. they were the same as other tyrannical rulers only the took the name of islam but no the spirit of it .
some of the rulers were very successful in running an empire with accordance to islam but most of them were tyrants,.

 

[VCheng]

His understanding of justice was never meant to live up to postmodern notions of human rights. To impose on him the standards of the modern world is to thus make a grave historical error.

These are good principles to apply to other situations as well. Judging history by modern standards is always misleading.

 

[Paragkhadse259]

Refer to post #20. 3000 year old hindu scripture does not contradict what I said.

Text are 3000 year old but our history dates back to orgin of textual records.

Archeological studies have found remains of Dwarka ( mentioned in mahabharta) and carbon dating confirms it as 6000 year old.

And you're confused about tribe and civilisation. Tribe was Aryan where as Vedic is civilisation.