Why are we so adamant in our support for Palestine when they themselves support India against us?

[Naofumi]

That's the reason I said that religion as a unifying glue for a Pakistani state will lead to a failure. They need to find cultural events, celebrations, national traditions, foods, etc to form an identity independent from India. They may not have a glorious history to form an identity based on that, but generally historical similarities can play a huge part in forming a nation's identity.

Or reform the religion, so that it becomes unique like a new school of thought (Quranism or Javed Ghamidi).

 

[El Sidd]

Delete your picture. Your name can be read from the signature.

There is now a Somalian ship with valuable gold from Nigerian princess headed your way with his name on it.

Enjoy the pickles

You have to speak a Pakistani language to be considered a Pakistani in my eyes.

That means Urdu, Punjabi, Pukhto, Balochi, Hindko, Seraiki, Koshuri, Pahari, Balti, etc. Take your pick.

You cannot know anything about the ground reality of Pakistan, if you are unable to watch our media, read our books, or converse with us.

Otherwise you will make ridiculous claims about Pakistani identity and further narratives of Indians, Iranians, and other enemies against Pakistanis.

I am not getting involved in your teenage drama.

stop provoking children you minion of the anti christ

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

Unless you want to exclude or kill religious minorities as your citizens.

We never have done that, it is against Islam and our nation.

I know that you are a Taliban supporter.

All of Pakistan is. What will you do? Your proxies lost, lick your wounds and cry to someone else.

So, I won't be surprised to find out that you actually have considered that option in your head already.

Reported.

 

[Nasr]

"We are supporting India in its fight against terrorism and because of that my government decided to directly call our ambassador to go back home, not to be Palestine ambassador to Pakistan anymore," Palestinian Ambassador to India Adnan Abu Al Haij said.

https://www.newsheads.in/world/news...Zr2HNlXuzcAl9lNS8yTey66yKWLCsG76ru1Uo806acEZQ

Let me get this straight, muslim countries like Jordan, Saudi Arabia and Egypt have diplomatic relations with Israel while we are one of the only few countries that do not even recognise Israel and for what?, Palestine supports India when it serves their interest, Saudi Arabia and UAE vetoes us in favor of India when it serves theirs while we are suppose to be good little muslims and support those who stab us in the back, harming our own self interest for them, why?

It seems almost ridiculous and absurd to hear that Palestinians are supporting india and want Pakistani Ambassador to Palestine to leave. This guy, Adnan Abu Al Hajj must have his head screwed on the other way around if he actually said such a thing. For starters, india is israel's natural ally. Then there is an extensive cooperation between india and israel in the defense sector. Or is it so, that this Adnan character isn't aware of the fact that Pakistan unlike other so-called Muslim countries, does not recognize israel as a legitimate state (which in any case it is not).

Which ever the case, the crux of the matter is located with us, Muslims. Because quite frankly I have found most Pakistanis either unaware or found at a loss of actually grasping the gravity of the subject.

israel is and will always be an illegitimate and an illegal state. Why? Well that is because israel's claim to statehood is based on their belief that "God gave them this land (the Holy Land)." That claim would be fine and dandy with the Islamic World, except for the fact that Banu Israeel (the children of israel (the tribe) have been identified in the Holy Qur'an as a people who have committed acts of pure evil and wickedness. Perhaps you, as a Muslim, ought to pay more attention to the "Word of Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah" then what this Adnan character says.

My point being, kuffar (and yes I consider israelis as kuffar) have always found ways to sow the seeds of discord, anarchy and confusing amongst the believers (true Muslims and true Christians) in order for us to fight amongst each other, rather than unite against a common enemy. This has been so, throughout history. If anyone actually bothered to pick up the Holy Qur'an (provided they have devoted their time to Salah, Zikr and Taqwah), then we would find out brains guided toward the truth.

As a Muslim (first and foremost) and by this right, as a Pakistani, I still support the people of Palestine and shall fight against the illegal, illegitimate and criminal state of israel, till my last breath, in-sha-Allah. Why? Because my allegiance is to Allah Subhanahu Wata'aalah and to whose Ummah I belong to, our beloved Nabi Muhammad Alaihi Salaat-u-Wassalam.

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

You don't have to go proving your Pakistani-ness to Talibans here.

Mods, take care of this guy.

 

[bsruzm]

You have to speak a Pakistani language to be considered a Pakistani in my eyes.

That means Urdu, Punjabi, Pukhto, Balochi, Hindko, Seraiki, Koshuri, Pahari, Balti, etc. Take your pick.

You cannot know anything about the ground reality of Pakistan, if you are unable to watch our media, read our books, or converse with us.

Otherwise you will make ridiculous claims about Pakistani identity and further narratives of Indians, Iranians, and other enemies against Pakistanis.

I am not getting involved in your teenage drama.

I want to learn Urdu, I am kind of ashamed that I haven't tried it before. I think, I won't struggle

Then:
Pakistan plans to ink dual citizenship deal with Turkey

 

[Naofumi]

Mods, take care of this guy.

But you like(d) Taliban??

 

[El Sidd]

I want to learn Urdu, I am kind of ashamed that I haven't tried it before. I think, I won't struggle

Then:
Pakistan plans to ink dual citizenship deal with Turkey

Its like a Kurdish dialect of Turkish

 

[QWECXZ]

Or reform the religion, so that it becomes unique like a new school of thought (Quranism or Javed Ghamidi).

I don't see the advantage of that.

We never have done that, it is against Islam and our nation.

All of Pakistan is. What will you do? Your proxies lost, lick your wounds and cry to someone else.

Reported.

What proxies did we have in Afghanistan? lol Name them.

So, the other day you were crying that Shia people are more loyal to Iran, now you have come to the conclusion that all of Pakistan support Taliban? Well, equipped with your logic, since they are loyal to us, we won't allow them to support Taliban. lol Seriously man, get a life. I know that there are nuts like you in Pakistan, but not everyone is like you.

And yes, your favorite Taliban did kill more than 5,000 Hazaras due to the very same mentality you have.

 

[Mugen]

Jinnah said its an illegal occupation.

You secularists would have killed him if wasn't dying already of TB.

He certainly knew more about the subject than I. All I want is Pakistanis to focus on fixing Pakistan.

 

[Yankee-stani]

I really don't give two shits about the Iranian regime. It's extremist and expansionist shit. Khomeini's followers are vile fanatics. But I don't make sweeping statements about Iranian people as a whole. For what it's worth, Iranian and Turkish people have been the most forthcoming and respectful towards Pakistani people in Pakistan's history. Far more than your Afghani brothers who you want to adopt as foster citizens. Or your racist Arab masters.

Iran political orientation does not matter if Iran wants to continue its Khomenist regime so be it same with Turkey if they want to remain true to Secularism laid out out by Kemalists no problem the thing is regime change as many PDF fanboys mention here will never work even for good purposes always leads to further ethnic tensions,extremism I dont need to go out lengths as we seen episodes in Iraq and Afghanistan prior in the last two decades the OP @Pan-Islamic-Pakistan harps so much on the Iranian interference without evidence of it like PDF fanboys if you want stable Balochistan invest resources there urbanized the lands so the tribalist folks lose power make it blossom dont run it as a freaking garrison instead of blaming outsiders

 

[Pan-Islamic-Pakistan]

I want to learn Urdu, I am kind of ashamed that I haven't tried it before. I think, I won't struggle

Then:
Pakistan plans to ink dual citizenship deal with Turkey

Come visit Pakistan, in sha Allah, after Corona mess is over. We love Turks, you will get royal treatment. You can be this guy.

I am teaching myself Turkish, albeit slowly, but because of my knowledge of Dari and Urdu used in poetry, I can pick up many words. Only accent is a bit different.

Best way to learn Urdu is to converse with people and surround yourself in that environment. Old Ottoman script is the exact same as Urdu one. We can read your old language too and also Uyghur.

 

[Yankee-stani]

The only reason why I want status quo remain is to revive the RCD so we can finally have Pakistani Manifest Destiny and expansion of trade,and soft power imagine networks of pipelines,highways, high speed rail from Istanbul,Tehran,Islamabad etc

 

[Cliftonite]

I want to learn Urdu, I am kind of ashamed that I haven't tried it before. I think, I won't struggle

Then:
Pakistan plans to ink dual citizenship deal with Turkey

You will struggle. Contrary to what my pan Islamist Pakistani brothers say Turkce ve Urdu cok different Lol spent some time in Turkey. Beautiful country y'all have got.

Still remember the metro train announcement. M2 line Istanbul. Gelecek Istanbul Dorduncu Levent lol

 

[Yankee-stani]

You will struggle. Contrary to what my pan Islamist Pakistani brothers say Turkce ve Urdu cok different Lol spent some time in Turkey. Beautiful country y'all have got.

There are more differences between the languages I agree the thing is most of the languages do have Persian influence whether you like it or not