Why Are We Discouraging Higher Education in Pakistan?

[Skull and Bones]

yes, just one of different possibilities.

Nope, my investments are already too diversified and spread over for low IQd socialist to track down and take it. It's a lot of work for them, and socialists aren't accustomed to working.

 

[jamahir]

I must say in conclusion that Pakistani academic community is doing great in spite of scarcity of resources. The efforts of our scholars and educational administrators are commendable in this regard which must be appreciated, promoted and showcased to the international community. Along with highlighting the problems in our education system, we need to encourage and highlight the achievements of our universities.

south asia, especially india and pakistan, don't have lack of funds at college and university level... it is lack of innovative thinking, and that comes from blindly following the former british raj system and not overthrowing a system that is meant to produce drones for capitalist offices and factories.

i ask you to read this recent thread of mine ( no invention from India in 60 years: n. r. narayana murthy ).

and socialists aren't accustomed to working.

incorrect.

trying to effect some radical changes takes lot of work and risks.

 

[Skull and Bones]

incorrect.

trying to effect some radical changes takes lot of work and risks.

The only radical change these socialists brought was the collapse of USSR.

 

[474474]

I am presently an Associate Professor of Molecular Biology. I have graduated 5 PhDs so far.

Do you consider Malaysian universities good, from a career perspective (not research)?

 

[syedali73]

Do you consider Malaysian universities good, from a career perspective (not research)?

To launch one's career after their post-Doc, yes, but for long term NO. As you grow, your peers will get more and more agitated and jealous and will make your life difficult unlike States (I have been working there too) or Western countries where you'll get full support both from the peers and the superiors. No Asian country (minus Japan, South Korea, and to some extent Singapore) is suitable to establish one's academic career. The place to do that is USA followed by Europe and Australia where there is little if any descrimination when it comes to merit.

 

[ghoul]

In every way. From utilizing the research grants for personal uses to blackmailing good and hard working students to work for up to 10 years and yet not awarding them with PhD. Recommending their toe-lickers for all sorts of awards and imtiazat and artificially forwarding their career by forcing the students to put everybody's name in the publications. Even Dr. Ata ur Rahman is not too far behind when it comes to nepotism.

That happens specially in Government controlled universities. And this "khushamadi" culture exists even in primary schools, I can only imagine what it's like in higher education.

 

[CIS-TRANS]

I am presently an Associate Professor of Molecular Biology. I have graduated 5 PhDs so far.

Wow, Just wow.

 

[mr.robot]

Higher education is a sheer waste of time. @jamahir will explain the advantage of dropping out of college early and start a startup.

If every body starts dropping out, who would work for your company? Start up culture also flourishes in an environment which generates PhD, graduates and people with education who will eventually be either early adopters or work with you. Also drop outs from Majha Gama universities rarely make a difference. Larry was drop out from Stanford. Gates was a drop out from Harvard. You have to have institutions like Ivy League which at least create an environment to go beyond limits.

 

[jamahir]

If every body starts dropping out, who would work for your company?

why can't a company be a collective organization ( a cooperative ) where there is no owner/worker difference but only of leader and contributor??

Start up culture also flourishes in an environment which generates PhD, graduates

in that case, india should have been leading in technology and discoveries, yet ( no invention from India in 60 years: n. r. narayana murthy )...

 

[Skull and Bones]

If every body starts dropping out, who would work for your company? Start up culture also flourishes in an environment which generates PhD, graduates and people with education who will eventually be either early adopters or work with you. Also drop outs from Majha Gama universities rarely make a difference. Larry was drop out from Stanford. Gates was a drop out from Harvard. You have to have institutions like Ivy League which at least create an environment to go beyond limits.

One of my professor owns a quarter billion dollar biotech firm having pan Europe and US presence. And that company started as a startup based on their experiment on a cancer drug in his own lab. My mention of @jamahir was pure sarcasm, as I, myself is doing PhD in Nanophotonics and Semiconductor Physics is a reputed university in US. And I always encourage education.

 

[Dubious]

more agitated and jealous

Happens EVERYWHERE where you are not a local....My British supervisor experienced this in Europe....

unlike

My European supervisor explained about another colleague who went through same....

Sure it isnt common but it def happens

 

[jamahir]

My mention of @jamahir was pure sarcasm, as I, myself is doing PhD in Nanophotonics and Semiconductor Physics is a reputed university in US. And I always encourage education.

you should expressly assemble a team towards the "india microprocessor program" then, ( Why a made-in-India chip remains chimeric - Livemint )... talented people must not be wasted.

 

[Skull and Bones]

you should expressly assemble a team towards the "india microprocessor program" then, ( Why a made-in-India chip remains chimeric - Livemint )... talented people must not be wasted.

I'm not interested in microprocessor, neither that is my career focus. I'm in Metamaterials and Nanophotonics, and minor in semiconductor fabrication.

 

[jamahir]

I'm not interested in microprocessor, neither that is my career focus. I'm in Metamaterials and Nanophotonics, and minor in semiconductor fabrication.

so you are not interested in this, ( Optical computing - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia )??

 

[syedali73]

Happens EVERYWHERE where you are not a local....My British supervisor experienced this in Europe....

My European supervisor explained about another colleague who went through same....

Not to the extent we see it in Asian countries.