Why Are So Many Muslims in Prison?

[VCheng]

I think it's pretty self explanatory.

So Muslims killing Muslims on these bases is equally self-explanatory, then?

 

[Khafee]

I'm just being straight forward.

The Shahada was thoroughly explained and which and to who each word was in reference to.

Would a person who's claiming Buddha as Jesus's father be considered a Catholic Christian?

To each his/her own.

Did I criticize you? I just clarified to the sect you were referring to.

 

[Moonlight]

So can we exclude Shias as Muslims too?

Well Shia sect is divided into many different groups. Those who call Hazrat Ali (RA) God are not Muslims doubtlessly. But it shouldn't give us right to discriminate anyone.

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

So Muslims killing Muslims on these bases is equally self-explanatory, then?

I think the answer is no.

Lets call a spade a spade, you can identify with whomever you want.

Did I criticize you? I just clarified to the sect you were referring to.

Bad formatting. I inserted your post quote after I wrote the respose to Syed Ali's post. My response to you was I'm being Straight forward.

Well Shia sect is divided into many different groups. Those who call Hazrat Ali (RA) God are not Muslims doubtlessly. But it shouldn't give us right to discriminate anyone.

I'm not discriminating against anyone, just pointing out a less know fact.

Did I criticize you? I just clarified to the sect you were referring to.

My knowledge of sects in Islam are basic. Wahabi, Sunni, Shia (12ers, 11er), Druze that's it.

I do appreciate your clarification.

 

[untitled]

So can we exclude the Ahmadiyyas on this basis too?

Is that not the very basis they are excluded ?

 

[VCheng]

I think the answer is no.

Lets call a spade a spade, you can identify with whomever you want.

But what happens when one person's spade is another person's pitchfork?

Is that not the very basis they are excluded ?

By Pakistan, yes.

 

[untitled]

By Pakistan, yes.

Then where are they included in mainstream Islam ?

 

[VCheng]

Then where are they included in mainstream Islam ?

By law? Or by Mullah?

 

[untitled]

By law? Or by Mullah?

By the muslim world in general ?
And how about you ? Do you consider them musilm? If yes on what basis ?

 

[VCheng]

By the muslim world in general ?
And how about you ? Do you consider them musilm? If yes on what basis ?

As long as there is no discrimination by law, all personal religious beliefs are worthy of the same respect.

 

[untitled]

The Shahada says clearly, "There's no God but ALLAH, and Muhammad (PBUH) is the last/final Messenger/ Prophet of ALLAH."

The word last does not appear in the Kalima.

 

[Thəorətic Muslim]

The word last does not appear in the Kalima.

لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول الله
lā ʾilāha ʾillā-llāh, muḥammadur-rasūlu-llāh
There is no god but God. Muhammad is the messenger of God.

 

[untitled]

As long as there is no discrimination by law, all personal religious beliefs are worthy of the same respect.

Would you respect people who worship Hitler and make shrine for him in the middle of the city ?

 

[VCheng]

Would you respect people who worship Hitler and make shrine for him in the middle of the city ?

Which religion is that? Political views are different than religious beliefs, Sir.

 

[untitled]

لا إله إلا الله محمد رسول الله
lā ʾilāha ʾillā-llāh, muḥammadur-rasūlu-llāh
There is no god but God. Muhammad is the messenger of God.

And where does the word last appear ?