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Why 1962 will not be repeated

volumes of who is diplomatic and wiser and the platform in which we are brought up.
Any way thanks for your message, i had a chance to sneek peek in your mentality.
Arrogance is not a Indian Quality, but I must say that you do it better than any one
Atleast I was not brought up on a platform which pushes me into submissive peeing. Arrogance maynot be an Indian quality, but hitting back when provoked definitely is...ofcourse I'm talking about those Indians who have shame and pride in thier blood.
 
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Bl[i]tZ;2230459 said:
I know your opinions -

India asks Pakistan to curb cross-border terrorism, your opinion is Indian propaganda.
US asks Pakistan to curb cross-border terrorism, your opinion is American propaganda.
Britain asks Pakistan to curb cross-border terrorism, your opinion is British propaganda.
Afghanistan asks Pakistan to curb cross-border terrorism, your opinion is Afghan propaganda.

can you name any other country ranting this bull crap?please give references as well.. i am not fond of listening to your moronic opinions..
 
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Bl[i]tZ;2230459 said:
I know your opinions -

India asks Pakistan to curb cross-border terrorism, your opinion is Indian propaganda.
US asks Pakistan to curb cross-border terrorism, your opinion is American propaganda.
Britain asks Pakistan to curb cross-border terrorism, your opinion is British propaganda.
Afghanistan asks Pakistan to curb cross-border terrorism, your opinion is Afghan propaganda.

I call it as I see it. Which as a pakistani on a a pakistani forum I am entitled to. If it doesnt agree with your views so what? we dont have to agree all the time life would be boring? lol
 
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No matter what you say but regarding China if we want to feel safe,we must develop and buy equipments and we are doing that...just to feel safe!

Or alternativly all the countries in the neighbourhood should make efforts to resolve our issues peacefully. Weapons and aggresive posturing can never replace peace and friendship in my opinion. Oh and before Im told I am not entitled to my opinion I am. lol. Testement to our combined failure that we all allow western white people with ulterior motives to even interfere in our neighbourhood

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what is wrong in that...

disliking neighbours should not be an option
 
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Western propaganda to butter up indians to buy more kit of french and serve western interests in my opinion

and infamous pakistani leeds mindset will always dumb down any topic.

word china is mentioned and you come running to the aid. :D
 
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I don't agree completely:

a.) Infrastructure bottlenecks are there rail, road, airbases, airports and its vulnerable as showed by sikkim quake.

b.) India have inducted the last howitzer some 25 years back.

c.) No heavy/medium lift capabilities for war or landing them near Tibet border.

d.) Lack of Mountain divisions and strike corp against china (so u can't bargain or end it at ur choice chinese will decide it).

e.) Lack of deterrence like slbm from nuke submarines.

f.) Lack of deterrence from further mischief, we don't have ICBM.

g.) Lesser number of assets for 2 fronts of war as china will use its proxy pakistan to divide out assets.


But by 2015-16 every thing will change

1.) All the 7 states near Tibet border will get road link, 10 airports are under construction, 4 lane highway and multiple rail/road links, multiple ALG, dozens of heliport with night landing facilities.

2.) M777 deal will be through and we will also have Made in India howitzers.

3.) 12 C130 + 16 C17 + 15 heavy lift helicopters + new MI17s will turn around the situation completely.

4.) India ill have dedicated strike corp. against china.

5.) SLBM in nuke submarines + 2 aircraft carrier (to cut off chinese commercial sea lanes)

6.) Deterrence like Agni - 5. Nirbhay+hyper sonic Brahmos (to cutoff PLA supply lines)

7.) Su 30 MKI in full strength + MMRCA.

and these are only few of the list.....:yahoo: :devil:

Thats great but do you think that the rest of the neighbourhood is full of women and will just go home and play with their bangles during this period. In the case of China they have a lot more reserves than India and if you know that India will have all this weaponery etc do you think that the Chinese high command dont know? they can afford a few trinkets. Mate Im telling you we need peace, we need our political leaders to talk and make heaven on earth in our neighbourhood. Im not suggesting this is going to be easy but thats what we should do. Imagine if a nuke goes off in any of pakistan india china we will all be affected. French Americans etc wont even feel anything other than a few news articles.
 
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being prepared to face a war is different than calling your neighbour an enemy. if you do the later you just increase the enemity by 10 folds each time you do it.
YOu can do all the modernization that you want for your army and have it ready for a war and the chinese won't complain about it, but they will complain or reply with a bad tone when you call them as evil.
so my advice do not call anybody your enemy or your evil.
better call them your brother and earn their respect and honor

Ashokbhai you need to administer some corrective therapy to some of your countrymen. In a war in our neighbourhood we will all be losers
 
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Thats great but do you think that the rest of the neighbourhood is full of women and will just go home and play with their bangles during this period. In the case of China they have a lot more reserves than India and if you know that India will have all this weaponery etc do you think that the Chinese high command dont know? they can afford a few trinkets. Mate Im telling you we need peace, we need our political leaders to talk and make heaven on earth in our neighbourhood. Im not suggesting this is going to be easy but thats what we should do. Imagine if a nuke goes off in any of pakistan india china we will all be affected. French Americans etc wont even feel anything other than a few news articles.

oy vey- his all encompassing scenarios always starts with N and ends w/ an E. Jarnal Aryan to the rescue!
 
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No this is wrong completely wrong...

Because one of chines troll keep repeating this on PDF

India can’t match China’s military force – Indian Navy Chief | Indian Military Blog

Chines economy 3 times the Indian economy

Global Peace Index - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

And yeah what was the last one...Oh!yeah!

How can 250 megaton can compete with 1 megaton :D:D:D

:enjoy:

Ok lets say for a moment that there is a troll, for the avoidance of doubt I dont agree with that. lets be blunt I as a pakistan accept that Pakistan can not match India militarily for several reasons eg population size etc. There is no embarassment in this its just facts. But the same is true for china and india. India can not in the forseeable future hope to hold the chinese back in the event of war,
 
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and infamous pakistani leeds mindset will always dumb down any topic.

word china is mentioned and you come running to the aid. :D

Listen Jay I am sorry if I have offended you you on another thread. let me make it absolutly clear I have no problems with gays or gora wannabes. Now back on topic why do you have so much hatred in you young man? It will eat at you. We need peace. Do you not understand we need peace and need to feed our people and make them have oppurtunities etc, please read all my comments and maybe you would act diferently

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oy vey- his all encompassing scenarios always starts with N and ends w/ an E. Jarnal Aryan to the rescue!

Calm down Jay. make love not war. I dont mean love me btw. Back to topic war and weaponisation is futile.
 
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1. Then what does it proves????? Isn't that Vietnamese people and communist are different and are not brainwashed :angel:

2. Personal attack and troll calling is against the rules plz avoid it for ur sake.

i m giving up educate guy like you so go figure out yourself
 
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Listen Jay I am sorry if I have offended you you on another thread. let me make it absolutly clear I have no problems with gays or gora wannabes. Now back on topic why do you have so much hatred in you young man? It will eat at you. We need peace. Do you not understand we need peace and need to feed our people and make them have oppurtunities etc, please read all my comments and maybe you would act diferently

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Calm down Jay. make love not war. I dont mean love me btw. Back to topic war and weaponisation is futile.

you don't offend us baghdad aryan - you amuse us... you are though on the china time clock... do continue jarnal. I dont believe I have ever said you had problem with gays or gora's ( hell you live off them goras and kiss the chinese to not be pro both those issues ) :D
 
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Or alternativly all the countries in the neighbourhood should make efforts to resolve our issues peacefully. Weapons and aggresive posturing can never replace peace and friendship in my opinion. Oh and before Im told I am not entitled to my opinion I am. lol. Testement to our combined failure that we all allow western white people with ulterior motives to even interfere in our neighbourhood
Who served the western "white People"? It was Pakistan and China that were allies to the US during Nixons time no less! India was at half the military man power strength during 1962. The whole skirmish still left India with a populated fertile area other wise known as NEFA to Indians and Southern Tibet to Chinese. The Chinese gain is Akasi Chin which seems to be a barren wasteland compared to NEFA. This war for the PLA and CCP seemed to have more PR value then anything else. Pakistan in 1965 thanks to the Chinese followed up with its own attack and eventually in 1971 to its biggest defeat. One must also note than China never helped Pakistan fight a war instead armed Pakistan.
This whole thing about India being an Ally of the US or NATO is BS! Indian generals still know the times when the US counter-parts spoke ill of them especially Nixon. You don't see India buying US fighter jets even today! Pakistan has its share of F-16's and such.
India serves its own interest. To think India wants to annex Pakistan is ridiculous. India has enough of its own problems and has enough resources. What does Pakistan offer? Did India annex Bangladesh?
This being said I think the PR value of 1962 now is useless. So would be any future endovour of any PLA incursions past the quo.
One needs to understand that everything the CCP does has PR, everything. First flight of the J-20 and the fact it was already painted in black when it should have been left unpainted.
 
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Who served the western "white People"? It was Pakistan and China that were allies to the US during Nixons time no less! India was at half the military man power strength during 1962. The whole skirmish still left India with a populated fertile area other wise known as NEFA to Indians and Southern Tibet to Chinese. The Chinese gain is Akasi Chin which seems to be a barren wasteland compared to NEFA. This war for the PLA and CCP seemed to have more PR value then anything else. Pakistan in 1965 thanks to the Chinese followed up with its own attack and eventually in 1971 to its biggest defeat. One must also note than China never helped Pakistan fight a war instead armed Pakistan.
This whole thing about India being an Ally of the US or NATO is BS! Indian generals still know the times when the US counter-parts spoke ill of them especially Nixon. You don't see India buying US fighter jets even today! Pakistan has its share of F-16's and such.
India serves its own interest. To think India wants to annex Pakistan is ridiculous. India has enough of its own problems and has enough resources. What does Pakistan offer? Did India annex Bangladesh?
This being said I think the PR value of 1962 now is useless. So would be any future endovour of any PLA incursions past the quo.
One needs to understand that everything the CCP does has PR, everything. First flight of the J-20 and the fact it was already painted in black when it should have been left unpainted.

Listen mate there are mistakes made by all our nations. I am the first to think pakistan is and has been wrong to allow west to interfere
 
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