Who will be the Winners and Losers in the World's Biggest Trade Deal: TPP

[ComradeNam]

The Chinese clowns in here are prasising their gods for TPP to fails, but guess what years later these Chinese clowns will beg U.S and TPP members let China be a part, and in return they will sell Russia again to beg for U.S economic help. That is their nature, clown and untrust are Chinese traits.

 

[hans]

Yes I think the winners will be developed countries like US, Japan and extremely poor countries like Vietnam.
developed countries can take advantage of their high tech industry and cost others much higher.
Extreme poor countries like VN will become the low end manufacturer for these developed countries.
They can make some money to get out of extreme poor condition.

The loser will be partly developed countries like most countries in the world.
They cannot compete with US, Japan in high tech industry.
But by joining the TPP, they have to give the market up and pay the high cost.

This went viral lately.
The 10 reasons:
1. Displaces local entrepreneur
2. A threat to national food security
3. Abolish Halal certificate.
4. Threat to the nation sovereign
5. Malay reserve land sold to foreigners
6. P.o.r.n cannot be blocked.
7. Drug price increase as much as 80%
8. Oppress Local workers.
9. Jew-American cooperation conspiracy.
10. Why is it a secret?

 

[TheTruth]

I'm sure Monsanto will be very successful in Vietnam's agriculture as they have a lot of experience during the Vietnam War working there with the U.S. airforce. Vietnam still enjoys the Monsanto products even after so many years after the war.

They will come up with many new flavors to wow the consuming public.

 

[Sam.]

We are against TPP as that's neo-colonization.

If the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) Agreement will, if implemented, and as I have argued elsewhere, result in the death of national and state sovereignty, constitutional separation of powers, and democracy, then what system and what principles will replace these things?It will be a fascism . And implicitly, that we are going through an evolution from representative democracy to fascism and that trade deals like the TPP, the Trans-Atlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP), and the Trade in Services Agreement (TiSA) mediate the transfer “. . . of democratic national sovereignty to international fascist bodies that represent global corporate management.

Example - If a company makes tabaacoo which is used in cigarettes and if Vietnam or any other TPP country want to ban ciggerate due to health issues then those companies who made them can sue Vietnam or any other tpp signifactory countries on the basis of TPP.

Countries will lose semi-autonomy and will face neo-colonization.

 

[dichoi]

Please my friend, let's not mention that.

I could stop mention it if Chinese idiots stop troll on orange agents.

 

[macnurv]

That sums it up.

 

[cnleio]

If Vietnamese members can stop to troll China, i can say TPP winner is the Vietnam, DEAL ? Not a big deal !

 

[ComradeNam]

North East Asia ( China,Korea, Japan ) FTA, where Japan can produce again what Unit 731 did.

that is brutal against Chinese, and the West even ignore that in exchange for experiement data, they think Chinese as monkey for test subjects or something. At least U.S compensated Vietnam for agent orange they pray during Vietnam war.

 

[powastick]

That sums it up.

Slavery, that depends on your definition.
This is what 'Cheap Labor' looks like in Malaysia, and elsewhere

But holding passport is a common practice in case of trying to escape because of second thoughts, and crime.

 

[macnurv]

But holding passport is a common practice in case of trying to escape because of second thoughts, and crime.

Still it is a wrong practice,as passports and other travel documents can not be held by employers.

 

[powastick]

Still it is a wrong practice,as passports and other travel documents can not be held by employers.

Trust me, a lot of Malaysian are wondering too why they got human trafficking upgrade from the US and while so much propaganda thrown towards Qatar.

 

[Gufi]

North East Asia ( China,Korea, Japan ) FTA, where Japan can produce again what Unit 731 did.

any more mentions like that and you will be rated negatively. Please discuss the topic at hand.

agent orange?

I could stop mention it if Chinese idiots stop troll on orange agents.

next time ask them... and report the posts citing trolling and insulting...
Nihonjin is a respected poster and it is his politeness that stops him from rating the meaningless post as negative, please let us respect the topic

 

[Roybot]

any more mentions like that and you will be rated negatively. Please discuss the topic at hand.

It was the "German" guy who started it. Cut the root of the problem.

 

[Gufi]

Yes I think the winners will be developed countries like US, Japan and extremely poor countries like Vietnam.
developed countries can take advantage of their high tech industry and cost others much higher.
Extreme poor countries like VN will become the low end manufacturer for these developed countries.
They can make some money to get out of extreme poor condition.

The loser will be partly developed countries like most countries in the world.

Very well explained, and I think local businesses might be affected because of either cheaper goods or higher quality goods flooding markets crushing companies which are smaller and can not compete with the bigger competition. Proton in Malaysia would be affected by Ford for example or Japanese cars.

If the Trans-Pacific Partnership (TPP) Agreement will, if implemented, and as I have argued elsewhere, result in the death of national and state sovereignty, constitutional separation of powers, and democracy, then what system and what principles will replace these things?It will be a fascism . And implicitly, that we are going through an evolution from representative democracy to fascism and that trade deals like the TPP, the Trans-Atlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP), and the Trade in Services Agreement (TiSA) mediate the transfer “. . . of democratic national sovereignty to international fascist bodies that represent global corporate management.

Example - If a company makes tabaacoo which is used in cigarettes and if Vietnam or any other TPP country want to ban ciggerate due to health issues then those companies who made them can sue Vietnam or any other tpp signifactory countries on the basis of TPP.

Countries will lose semi-autonomy and will face neo-colonization.

@Nihonjin1051 please explain if this is correct or not when you have the time to do so ... I do not understand if this point of view is correct

 

[Jlaw]

I have heard Canada is probably getting excluded from TPP talks， know anything about that？

No we are not. There are some "kinks" that need to be work out. I think the government is smelling something fishy but in the end they will have no choice but go along with US.

I'm sure Monsanto will be very successful in Vietnam's agriculture as they have a lot of experience during the Vietnam War working there with the U.S. airforce. Vietnam still enjoys the Monsanto products even after so many years after the war.

That is true, the positive side of Agent Orange is it eliminated Malaria.