Who will be Pakistan’s next Army Chief and Joint Chief of the military

[Catalystic]

Its time a civilian is made the head of the military…..werna na he banao, let the PM do it

 

[RescueRanger]

Its time a civilian is made the head of the military…..werna na he banao, let the PM do it

That's not how it works. Civil/military/judiciary/executive/administrative these are branches of government that are independent of eachother for very obvious reasons.

 

[Jango]

That's not how it works. Civil/military/judiciary/executive/administrative these are branches of government that are independent of eachother for very obvious reasons.

Welllll technically, the military is not part of the trifecta as determined due to the separation of power.

It's executive, legislature, and judiciary. De jure, the military should come under the executive, but Pakistan main we like to do things our way

 

[RescueRanger]

Welllll technically, the military is not part of the trifecta as determined due to the separation of power.

It's executive, legislature, and judiciary. De jure, the military should come under the executive, but Pakistan main we like to do things our way

I'm saving this song for that special day:

 

[White privilege]

Its time a civilian is made the head of the military…..werna na he banao, let the PM do it

 

[SaadH]

Wouldn't matter, whoever it will be , they will come from a long tradition and legacy of Mir Jaffers.

 

[araz]

Welllll technically, the military is not part of the trifecta as determined due to the separation of power.

It's executive, legislature, and judiciary. De jure, the military should come under the executive, but Pakistan main we like to do things our way

There is nothing wrong with having a quadroca instead of a troica. However, the scope of this involvement its limitations and extent should again be defined and entrenched within the constitution. Otherwise every politician will turn into a tyrant. My 2 paisas worth.
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[SD 10]

aik se bhar kar aik *******!

 

[khail007]

IMO, there should be a system for senior most to be appointed automatically whenever COAS retires/dies/killed. No civil/political intervention/extension to close this chapter of discord forever, which badly scarred the history of Pakistan.

Who will be Pakistan’s next Army Chief and Joint Chief of the military​

January 27, 2022

General Qamar Javed Bajwa, Pakistan’s Army head, and Joint Chief General Nadeem Raza is set to retire in November. Imran Khan’s PTI-led government will have to choose the next Chief of Army Staff (COAS) and Chairman Joint Chiefs of Staff Committee (CJCSC). While the Pandits have begun discussing the future of the country’s most powerful seat after Prime Minister Khan stated that he has not yet decided on any extension for General Bajwa.
The possible looking at the existing Corp Commanders can help us see some of the seniors and prospective contenders for the positions of COAS and CJCSC.


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Lt Gen. Sehr Shamshad Mirza

After the Army Chief and Joint Chiefs of Staff, he is the most senior lieutenant General. He is an officer of the Pakistan Army’s Sindh Regiment. So far, General Mirza has had a distinguished career. Lt. Gen. Sahir Shamshad Mirza is now serving as the X Corps’ Commander in Rawalpindi.

He was previously the Chief of General Staff at the Pakistan Army’s General Headquarters. Prior to his CGS assignment, he served as Adjutant General. Vice Chief of General Staff (A), Director General Military Operations, and General Officer Commanding at Dera Ismail Khan were among his previous positions. He led the 40th Infantry Division throughout his time at Military Operations.

Lt. Gen Azhar Abbas

General Abbas is the army’s 35th Chief of General Staff. After the army chief, the CGS is regarded as the most powerful position inside the army. The Directorates of Military Operations and Military Intelligence are responsible for operational and intelligence affairs at General Headquarters under the command of the CGS.

Abbas was commissioned into the Baloch Regiment’s 41st Battalion. He formerly held the positions of Commandant School of Infantry and Tactics in Quetta, Division Commander in Murre, Brigade Commander in the Operations Directorate, and Personal Secretary to General Raheel Sharif, the former Chief of Army Staff. Interestingly, five CGS have been named CJCSC thus far.

Lt. Gen Nouman Mahmood Raja

He is President of the National Defence University in Islamabad. He was previously the Corp Commander of Peshawar. In On 1987, General Raja was commissioned into an Infantry Battalion. He attended the Command and Staff College in Quetta, Egypt, as well as the Command and Staff College in Cairo and the National Defence University in Islamabad.

Brigade Major of an Infantry Brigade, Commanding Officer of an Infantry Regiment, Brigade Commander of two Infantry Brigades, Chief of Staff of a Corps, General Officer Commanding of an Infantry Division, Director General (Analysis), Directorate General ISI, Inspector General Communication & Information Technology Branch General Headquarters Rawalpindi, and Corps Commander of a Corps are among his various Command, Staff, and Instructional assignments.

Lt. Gen Faiz Hameed

At the moment, he is the Commander of the XI Corps in Peshawar. He served as the 24th Director-General of the Intelligence Agency ISI. He was commissioned in the Baloch Regiment. Previously, Faiz served as Adjutant General in Rawalpindi’s General Headquarters (GHQ). Also, in his military career, he was the chief of the ISI’s counter-intelligence wing.

He was also the Chief of Staff to then-Corps Commander Rawalpindi, General Bajwa, who is currently the COAS. Only three XI Corp Commanders have ever been promoted to four-star general rank: General Sawar Khan, General Mirza Aslam Baig, and General Ahsan-ul-Haq. Gen. Faiz as DG ISI remained in limelight.

He also visited Kabul soon after the Afghan Taliban’s takeover of Afghanistan. Many circles are talking about the positioning of Gen. Faiz as possible next COAS. However, only the exact time will decide the future command of the Pakistan Army.

Lt. Gen Muhammad Amir

He is currently serving as Corp Commander of the Gujranwala Corps. Before this, he served as Advocate General. As a Major General, Amir served as GOC 10 Infantry Division, Lahore.

He also served as DG Staff at COAS Secretariat.

Lt. Gen Muhammad Chiragh Haider

He is currently serving as Corps Commander Multan, Prior to being Corp Commander Multan, Haider was serving as DG Joint Staff Headquarters.

Previously, he also undertook responsibilities as DG Military training and GOC Infantry Division Jhelum.

Lt. Gen Nadeem Anjum
He is serving as the Director-General of Inter-Services Intelligence (DG ISI). He was commissioned in the 28th Punjab Regiment of infantry.

He has also served as Inspector-General of the Frontier Corps, Brigadier Commander Waziristan, and Kurram Agency. Anjum also served as Corp Commander of V Corps at Karachi.

The Army contenders for the future COAS are promoted by name through the outgoing Chief of Army Staff, from whom the Prime Minister selects the new COAS and CJCSC, according to protocol. Now it’s up to Prime Minister Imran Khan to decide whether to stick to the seniority list or choose any senior official from the list who meets his criteria.

Sir G, it would be a better to start this thread as 'survey' with voting, to see the scores visible to PDF members that who is the preferred one - Just a suggestion.

 

[YaqoobAlam]

Deep State

Sir, who do we refer to when we mention the "Deep State"?

 

[Raja Porus]

IMO, there should be a system for senior most to be appointed automatically whenever COAS retires/dies/killed. No civil/political intervention/extension to close this chapter of discord forever, which badly scarred the history of Pakistan.



Sir G, it would be a better to start this thread as 'survey' with voting, to see the scores visible to PDF members that who is the preferred one - Just a suggestion.

Ayub was also thejunior most, and that is why we lost many a brilliant and professional officers. On the other hand Kakar and Raheel shareef, though were junior most, proved to be very professional.

So why not say that the PMs start appointing COASs on the basis of professionalism rather party/own interests.

 

[WaqarAhmed161247]

Sir, who do we refer to when we mention the "Deep State"?

LIKE we elect our MNAS and MPAS and how capable they are and how they tackle with the problems of our country or how they generate new problems for this country ,you want same type of things in our armed forces too.Let them work independently and don,t involve them in civilian matters of the the country.our past civilian elected rulers actually used the intelligence services of armed forces to strengthen their regimes.

 

[YaqoobAlam]

LIKE we elect our MNAS and MPAS and how capable they are and how they tackle with the problems of our country or how they generate new problems for this country ,you want same type of things in our armed forces too.Let them work independently and don,t involve them in civilian matters of the the country.our past civilian elected rulers actually used the intelligence services of armed forces to strengthen their regimes.

So "Deep State" is basically intel community?
That`s fascinating.
I would like to be a citizen of the Deep State
Hit me up, guys!

 

[khail007]

Ayub was also the senior most, and that is why we lost many a brilliant and professional officers. On the other hand Kakar and Raheel shareef, though were junior most, proved to be very professional.

So why not say that the PMs start appointing COASs on the basis of professionalism rather party/own interests.

Ayub was a dictator, now as the so-called constitution of Pakistan provides a clause to deal with such a situation.
The tenure for COAS is three years and the same constitution could be amended for automatic retirement at the end of the term and promotion of the next in line based on seniority.
Further, not referring to the professional training, don't see any significant behavior/attitude in the top ranks towards the past or present political turmoil in the country. It is the same be it the 'professional/nonprofessional' at the helm.

 

[imadul]

How do we know who is truly professional, having an immaculate character and career, and no political ambition?
Whoever next coas will be, will remain controversial if appointed by zaradari and Nawaz system.
Best if next chief comes from PAF or Navy and called CHIEF OF ARMED FORCES. There is more likelihood he will NOT be political and he won't have that unbridled power where he can start doing dirty puppeteering that Bajwa has done and broken the trust between Awam and Army.
Rebuilding trust between Awam and Army is paramount.