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Who posses a greater risk to Turkish Nation?

Who posses a greater risk to Turkish Nation?

  • Presence of Russia close to Turkish borders

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • PKK terrorists

    Votes: 5 9.8%
  • US/Israel/PKK terrorists

    Votes: 35 68.6%
  • Syria/Russia vs Turkey

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Iran/Syria/Russia vs Turkey

    Votes: 1 2.0%
  • Iran

    Votes: 1 2.0%
  • Refugees out of control in Turkey

    Votes: 3 5.9%
  • Anyone I missed?

    Votes: 6 11.8%

  • Total voters
    51
Turkish Arabs have never betrayed us,most Turkish Kurds dont give fvck about the PKK.

I live in the US. Most of the Kurds I have met from Turkey, Syria, and Iraq are pro-Turkish, many being personal fans of Erdogan.

PKK are a small minority of Kurds who are being funded by foreign powers and regional regimes. PKK is an atheistic communist terrorist organization, and does not represent the majority of Muslim Kurds.
 
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I live in the US. Most of the Kurds I have met from Turkey, Syria, and Iraq are pro-Turkish, many being personal fans of Erdogan.

PKK are a small minority of Kurds who are being funded by foreign powers and regional regimes. PKK is an atheistic communist terrorist organization, and does not represent the majority of Muslim Kurds.

Come to France, Austria, UK, Germany, Belgium and the Netherlands where the majority lives... full of PKK loving Kurds.
 
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Resettling and change the demographic situation.

Already happening in case of Iraq with a 3% population largely originating from the South with many settling in the Kurdistan region which should be abolished anyway. 1 year after their failure they make the statement that it is still their objective to gain independence which speaks volumes about their strategy: the weakening of those surrounding them.
 
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Creation of Kurdistan will create a suitable environment for the rise of Greater Israel, a rump state Turkey and a puppet state Turkey under a new government after an eventual pro-Western revolutionary movement.

Greater Israel's boundaries ends where the proposed Kurdistan territory will begin. Exact borders could be eventually worked out, the broader concept complements each other. Creation of a Kurdistan friendly to American and Israeli interests would create a bulwark against regional powers preventing full intervention during the ground work of Greater Israel. It would create a barrier around an engineered power vacuum, the barrier would prevent the vacuum to be properly filled by regional powers. The Levant would compose of only 2 regional powers: Israel and Kurdistan, both being friendly to Western interests and Kurdistan being more of a vassal or protectorate due to being underdeveloped institutionally, technologically and economically. The rest of the region would be balkanized.
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Eventually Kurdistan would create an opportunity for a relatively stable rump state Turkey lead by a pro-Western government. Due to the circumstance of the rise of this pro-Western government, in the future it would be seen as a solution to the long term problems plaguing Turkey, some of which will be engineered. It would be important to weaken the will of the people to resist first before presenting them with a solution favoring Western interests. Under a rump state Turkey, the people would be more easily incentivized and coered to follow a more pro-Western ideology.

A pro-US and US backed Kurdistan would effectively block Russia's ability to extend influence into the Middle East and prevent the alignment of Turkish and Russian interests in the region. Rather than alignment or neutrality, the relations would become more hostile over time.
 
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Internal traitors. If we actually do what is necessary, we would be unstoppable in the middle east.
 
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Creation of Kurdistan will create a suitable environment for the rise of Greater Israel, a rump state Turkey and a puppet state Turkey under a new government after an eventual pro-Western revolutionary movement.

Greater Israel's boundaries ends where the proposed Kurdistan territory will begin. Exact borders could be eventually worked out, the broader concept complements each other. Creation of a Kurdistan friendly to American and Israeli interests would create a bulwark against regional powers preventing full intervention during the ground work of Greater Israel. It would create a barrier around an engineered power vacuum, the barrier would prevent the vacuum to be properly filled by regional powers. The Levant would compose of only 2 regional powers: Israel and Kurdistan, both being friendly to Western interests and Kurdistan being more of a vassal or protectorate due to being underdeveloped institutionally, technologically and economically. The rest of the region would be balkanized.
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Eventually Kurdistan would create an opportunity for a relatively stable rump state Turkey lead by a pro-Western government. Due to the circumstance of the rise of this pro-Western government, in the future it would be seen as a solution to the long term problems plaguing Turkey, some of which will be engineered. It would be important to weaken the will of the people to resist first before presenting them with a solution favoring Western interests. Under a rump state Turkey, the people would be more easily incentivized and coered to follow a more pro-Western ideology.

A pro-US and US backed Kurdistan would effectively block Russia's ability to extend influence into the Middle East and prevent the alignment of Turkish and Russian interests in the region. Rather than alignment or neutrality, the relations would become more hostile over time.
All of this could have been avoided,i blame my government.
 
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Turks do not escape from any war. If knife is based on the bone, they can make everythink that won't come to your mind. But if you succeed in destroying theirs national consciousness, you don't need to do anything else. They parts themselves. National consciousness is not to just shouting with lyric discourses, real mean is working and organizing in science and technique,cultural struggle, trade and war.
 
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