White House considering imposing travel bans on ISI officers, designating Pakistan a state sponsor o

[MultaniGuy]

You said nobody drinks alcohol in Pakistan,in your previous post. So I shared a link!

Yeah in general nobody drinks alcohol

Nadeem f paracha is another idiot

 

[gangsta_rap]

At least if he imposes this he is taking a step forward.

Who invited the alt right weeaboos like you in here?

 

[sputnik]

White House considering imposing travel bans on ISI officers, designating Pakistan a state sponsor of terrorism
US weighs dropping Pakistan as an ally

Trump administration accuses country of housing militants as relations hit new low

Angry Pakistanis protesed in August against Donald Trump's accusations that the country harboured terrorists © AFP




September 15, 2017 by Katrina Manson in Washington The Trump administration is considering dropping Pakistan as an ally as it examines tough measures to quell more than 20 terrorist groups it says are based in the country. Officials familiar with the Pakistan prong of Washington’s new “AfPak” strategy — which involves an open-ended commitment in Afghanistan and praise for India — say it has yet to be fleshed out. But they have plenty of levers. President Donald Trump last month promised to get tough on Pakistan, accusing it of “housing the very terrorists that we are fighting”. It was the most public breach yet in an often rocky relationship. “No US president has come out on American national television and said such things about Pakistan,” said Husain Haqqani, former Pakistan ambassador to the US. “US policymakers are at the end of their tethers about what they see as Pakistan not helping them while promising to help them.” The administration has already put $255m in military aid on hold after Mr Trump announced the policy shift. It is eyeing an escalating series of threats, which include cutting some civilian aid, conducting unilateral drone strikes on Pakistani soil and imposing travel bans on suspect officers of the ISI, the country’s intelligence agency. It could also revoke Pakistan’s status as a major non-Nato ally or designate it a state sponsor of terrorism. The latter options would limit weapons sales and probably affect billions of dollars in IMF and World Bank loans, along with access to global finance. “Thinking of Pakistan as an ally will continue to create problems for the next administration as it did for the last one,” Lisa Curtis, former CIA analyst who now leads South Asia policy in the National Security Council, wrote in a joint report with Mr Haqqani earlier this year. Ms Curtis, who works closely with the state department, believes the Obama administration “erred” by relying on personal ties and aid packages to try to change Pakistan’s behaviour. In 2011 when we killed Bin Laden, relations were at their worst, but on the face of it, it’s worse now just because we haven’t talked to them much Mike Mullen, former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff Mike Mullen, former chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, visited Pakistan more than 25 times during his 2007-11 tenure, seeking close ties with powerful army head and former spy chief General Ashfaq Parvez Kayani. He became disillusioned, lambasting an Afghan Taliban group known as the Haqqani network as “a veritable arm” of the ISI. “It was my belief and continues to be my belief that unless we had an ally that we could work together to greatly eliminate the threat then our efforts in Afghanistan were going to fail,” said Mr Mullen. “In 2011 when we killed [Osama] Bin Laden, relations were at their worst, but on the face of it, it’s worse now just because we haven’t talked to them much.” Some who recall being beguiled by late nights spent with military and civilian leaders over Johnnie Walker Blue Label — the expensive whisky beloved by Pakistan’s elite in the officially dry country — say even forceful private conversations regularly disappoint. James Dobbins, special envoy in 2013-14, became frustrated by failed promises from army chief Gen Raheel Sharif to go after militant groups “It’s very difficult to deal with an interlocutor who says he agrees with you but actually doesn’t,” he said. “The Pakistanis originally saw the Taliban as an instrument that they could manipulate to their advantage and since view it as a monster they’ve created but can’t afford to suppress.” The state department, which has long been reluctant to cut aid or censure Pakistan in public, and which previously pushed Mr Mullen to “tone down” his rhetoric, is adapting to the harsher line set by the White House. “We look to the Pakistani government to take decisive action against militant groups based in Pakistan that are a threat to the region,” said a state department official, adding that it will address major concerns “privately”. Zalmay Khalilzad, a former US ambassador to Afghanistan, applauds the tougher line. “Pakistan has reacted publicly harshly but I believe we have got their attention and this is now serious and they are making noises privately to the Afghan government about getting together to talk,” he said. Pakistan cancelled a planned visit this month from Alice Wells, the state department official in charge of south Asia policy, in protest at Mr Trump’s announcement. But Ms Wells met Pakistan’s ambassador to the US this week and a state department official said the pair has regular contact.



Relations are expected to take a further blow from US efforts to forge closer ties with rival India. “We need to respect and trust India — they have not leaked nuclear secrets or shared sensitive nuclear technology with rogue countries,” said Tim Roemer, former US ambassador to India, a reference to Pakistan’s nuclear proliferation. Pakistan prime minister Shahid Khaqan Abbasi said this week it is “unfair” to blame his country for troubles in Afghanistan, adding that the US should have greater respect for its efforts to combat militancy. Ryan Crocker, former US ambassador to Pakistan in the wake of 9/11, says Pakistan resents the wild oscillations in support from the US. “They went from our most allied of allies to our most sanctioned of sanctioned,” he said, recalling that the US worked with Pakistan to defeat Soviet Russia during the 1980s Afghanistan invasion but, once it had won, cut aid and imposed sanctions over its emergent nuclear programme. “Their narrative about us is here today, gone tomorrow and it has deeply affected their strategic thinking.”

https://www.ft.com/content/6a107732-99f9-11e7-b83c-9588e51488a0

This is going to be huge if true. last 70 years of relationship now stands for nil. Huge work for Pak. foreign office. they almost orphan now.

 

[Clutch]

This is excellent news... now only patriots will join ISI and not sellouts.

Living in denial is bliss apparently
https://www.dawn.com/news/1060507

A small minority do... most don't

 

[IceCold]

Glad to see Trump acting to remove terrorism.

First remove your terrorists from Syria and trying to destabilize the entire region through proxies than talk about removing terrorism from anywhere else. And while you are at it do ask your government how much of Afghan territory under the mighty US and NATO is under the Taliban.

 

[RIP Pak LAW]

Indian wet dreams

 

[Verve]

And the veto in UN will fail ...... with Russia and China backing Pakistan

 

[Reichsmarschall]

Who invited the alt right weeaboos like you in here?

he is an Indian see his previous posts

Found this on Facebook dont know if true or not

Agreed. Remember when Hilary Clinton said "Pakistan is getting out of its shoes"....
It happened when Pakistani intelligence come to know about Baitullah Mehsud's movement at a particular time and the area was immediately accessible to US Drones there. Pakistan formally requested US forces to hit his convey but they didn't by saying our info is not true and started asking for credible and tangible proof. Thus Baitullah survived...

The Pakistani authorities took it seriously and a high level meeting was asked by Pakistanis where US and NATO officials were present. A very heated arguments went on and US officials snubbed and insulted our intelligence officials in the meeting saying they are good for nothing and asked we believe in Video proofs and asked if we had any knowingly we didn't have any....
On this our intelligence officials took out a medium (dvd or usb) and played it in the meeting saying "This is what our intelligence do, do you have any answers of it?!"

The first scene was showing Indian Raw officials meeting Afghan Intelligence officials in an Afghan safe house along with few CIA officials whom exact identity and code names were provided. The second scene was showing RAW's head office in New Delhi where a car approached at the main building and Bramdagh Bughti was seen coming out, greeted by some Raw officials, 2 minutes later another car came and Raw's Chief was seen coming out to see him who was little late. After 40 minutes, Bramdagh Bughti showed up while leaving the premises...

After seeing this video, the US officials got up and left the meeting without saying a single word... the next day Hillary Clinton said this statement. After 5 or 6 days, a bomb blasted in front of Indian Embassy in Kabul and the Indian and later whole world's media started yelling "Pakistan is involved in this attack" just to change the scene....

So logically and factually Pakistan must declare CIA "Enemy of State", kick them out and ban their entry in Pakistan immediately.
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[Rollno21]

And the veto in UN will fail ...... with Russia and China backing Pakistan

It dsnt have to pass at UN,even if US declares it will be a huge blow to Pakistan

 

[danger007]

Indian wet dreams

Funny that article not from Indian sources.. try again..

 

[Verve]

It dsnt have to pass at UN,even if US declares it will be a huge blow to Pakistan

We managed through sanctions before, and will manage again. We are connected with China and we can trade with the world through China in PKR so we are in a much better shape than the last sanctions.

And US can say bye bye to whatever control they have left in Afghanistan as supplies will be cut within few minutes of such an announcement.

Threat of sanctions is just that, a threat that will not materialise. USA will never attack a nuclear country, and it needs to be on the Afghan soil to play the double game.

 

[Myth_buster_1]

At least if he imposes this he is taking a step forward.

It will get vetoed by supreme court just like muslim travel ban.

 

[AZ1]

It doesnt have to pass at UN,even if US declares it will be a huge blow to Pakistan

They are not nuts to declare otherwise they would have done it by now. Pakistan is so important for them right now that they can shout but can't do a damn thing about it. If Pakistan is out, they don't even know how long they can stay in Afghanistan. With Pakistan, at least they have manage to survive in Afghanistan for 16 years.

 

[fitpOsitive]

Terrorism into Pakistan originates from Afghanistan and the biggest question is who is occupation power in Afghanistan and what have they done to control it?

The bigger question is who is behind making environment in Afghanistan more hostile towards Pakistan and terror attacks on Pakistan from Afghanistan. Indian corporate sector is playing dirty games in Afghanistan.

 

[ejaz007]

Lets do it. Would it solve US problems in Afghanistan.