Where's OIC, the "Muslim" NATO and the Ummah on Trumps attack on Pakistan?

[Reichsmarschall]

Hi,

" That is not our war---we are not a mecenary army "---remember that time---payback is indeed a bit-ch---.

Allah gave Pakistan the opportunity 2 years ago in Yemen---. With your influence---you could have stopped the proxy war started by Iran in Yemen to divert the attention of the U S and israel from itself---.

By this time---pakistan could have had 35-50 thousand new troops and other weapons and weapons systems---plus its footprint at very strategic locations in the GCC.

To kiss iran's ar-se pakistan destroyed its friendship with old reliable partners of GCC---.

What is Iran to pakistan other than bringing terrorism into the region---threatening to split pakistan---actually nucking pakistan when they would get their first bomb---according to the conversation the iranian nuc program chief had with my uncle after the iranian had a few drinks.

Sir no more Bakhshoism

 

[MastanKhan]

Hi,

Life is like a marathon----so many different people---all running to win---but do they all have the same goal---no---some will drop out at 5 miles---some at 10---some at 20 and some will go all the way---but they are all running in a pack---even though as diversified as it i.

The fascinating thing about the marathon is that after 1/2 the way---smaller packs are formed---the leaders start to group together and move ahead---even though they all know that there is going to be one winner---but still the opponents---country mates---they all bundle up and move ahead working on the strengths and weaknesses of the other runner---.

Now look at this war on terror---one christian nation has created this drama---and to get the nod of the world---it has tagged along every jack sh-it country along for the KILL---.

These christian nations have tagged along to kill the muslims and the pakistani muslims are commenting about mercenary army---we want to do it alone---we don't need anyone's help---.

The funny thing is---I just started watching this TURKISH serial----Resuurection:---Ertugral---what a similarity with the pakistanis---.

@HAKIKAT ---the deception is so true in the serial---you can see it on this board as well---similar mentality---.

 

[S.Y.A]

Hi,

Life is like a marathon----so many different people---all running to win---but do they all have the same goal---no---some will drop out at 5 miles---some at 10---some at 20 and some will go all the way---but they are all running in a pack---even though as diversified as it i.

The fascinating thing about the marathon is that after 1/2 the way---smaller packs are formed---the leaders start to group together and move ahead---even though they all know that there is going to be one winner---but still the opponents---country mates---they all bundle up and move ahead working on the strengths and weaknesses of the other runner---.

Now look at this war on terror---one christian nation has created this drama---and to get the nod of the world---it has tagged along every jack sh-it country along for the KILL---.

These christian nations have tagged along to kill the muslims and the pakistani muslims are commenting about mercenary army---we want to do it alone---we don't need anyone's help---.

The funny thing is---I just started watching this TURKISH serial----Resuurection:---Ertugral---what a similarity with the pakistanis---.

@HAKIKAT ---the deception is so true in the serial---you can see it on this board as well---similar mentality---.

so basically, what you are saying has got nothing to do with Ummah, or any such concept, but that even when looking out for ourselves we will need reliable partners and some form of leverage, isolationism will do us no good...

 

[war&peace]

Paraphrasing JFK, What has Pakistan done for OIC?

It is a long story but just remember that OIC conference of 1974 was held in Lahore, Pakistan and that was one of the most successful and effective meeting to date with towering and charismatic leaders like Zulfiqar Ali Bhutto, Shah Faisal, Yassar Arafat, Moammar Gaddafi, ... and others participated and decided to make a block. That was a serious attempt to unite the Muslim countries and one of the reason that all of those leaders died unnatural deaths

 

[Big Tank]

This thread was actually a nod to some of those people with whom I discussed a lot on the "Muslim" Military Alliance shenanigans with.

They were all telling me that now Pakistan has managed to get some great influence in the Middle East and this is all going to be worth it blah blah.

I guess their absence in this thread shows who was right. Not a single one of those crazy preachers are to be found in this thread.

Lol.. You're hurting them bad mate. Those High School Kids are nowhere to be seen now. Instead we just got more damage being into a useless Alliance. Gen R Raheel badly hurted his respect along for putting conditions such as induction of Iran and later joining without caring any of the conditions put previously.

 

[MastanKhan]

so basically, what you are saying has got nothing to do with Ummah, or any such concept, but that even when looking out for ourselves we will need reliable partners and some form of leverage, isolationism will do us no good...

Hi,

That is the HISTORICAL TRUTH---even the greatest warrior and conquerer of this earth GHENGIZ KHAN needed allies and partners to succeed---actually the foundation of his success is based on military alliance first and foremost---.

Alexander the great did not succeed on his own and neither did Julius Ceasar.

No nation has survived in the world by itself---.

The East India company tells us that military alliances are extremely profitable when you are the one providing the forces---and look at the usa as well---.

Pakistanis think that they have done a lot for the GCC---actually---it is the GCC that has done a lot---we just had a token military force that many a pakistani kids brag about---.

Alliances---you can either have with the ones with whom you have a border with---like china---or close neighbors like the GCC---.

You can count Iran out of it---just look at Yemen---Iran destroyed an innocent nation like Yemen to divert the attention of the west away from it---by instigating them into a war---supplied them with weapons and trainers.

They were all telling me that now Pakistan has managed to get some great influence in the Middle East and this is all going to be worth it blah blah.

Hi,

I am surprised if anyone would be stupid enough to say that pakistan HAS great influence in the middle east---can you show any poster's post to this effect---.

Pakistan's influence was gone with rejecting Yemen alliance---. Gen Raheel fckd up bad and he acknowledged it---.

Why would there be an alliance with a murdering nation like Iran---whose presence is the cause of death and destruction for that nation.

 

[Tshering22]

I'm pretty sure muslim NATO project didn't materialise and Raheel now is back in Pakistan lol

Don't mean to intervene on your internal matter, but if at all anyone can lead such a proposed military alliance, on pure grounds it has to be Turkey and Pakistan.

They are the only ones who have the historical muscle, capability and a certain degree of self-reliance in a globalised world.

A leadership under Saudi Arabia seems rather skewed and also not practical considering their limited military experience compared to Pakistan and Turkey, both of whom have a very strong military history.

 

[MastanKhan]

Sir no more Bakhshoism

Hi,

Each to his vision---each to his strength of flight---if that is how you see it for yourself---that is your problem---those are your limitations---.

I view it thru the perspective of what East India Company did in hindustan.

And don't degrade Bakhshoo---he is a core part of the fabric of the community.

To clear your ignorance---every ethnic community has their Bakhshoo's---.

It really is a shame that you pakistani kids think so low of yourself---.

These Bakhshoos gave you inlet to the GCC---the GCC gave you the opportunity to be their protectors---.

Son---men with guns and tanks are not Bakhshoos---for Allah's sake---are you children going to live in eternal ignorance and have such low self esteem of yourself.

 

[YeBeWarned]

As far as Arab Kings and Prince are alive there wont be any unity among the Muslims , they will put their interest first rather than their fellow Muslims, we Muslims are not no less than Animals who has nothing else except Survive.. Saudi kings want to protect their kingdom so they will keep giving their Royal Arse to Americans while Americans F'd up the Entire ME , Qatar and Kuwaiti are the worse sort of Human being you will ever come across , they will treat you less than a piece of Shit of an Arab .. Today majority of the Arab world leaders become Luxurious Pu$$ies who even they went to war in their Air conditioned Tanks .

OIC has no future from the very beginning and with the death of Z.A bhutto , Shah Faisal , Ghaddafi , and other leaders even the slight chance of creating a somewhat powerful Organizational Dream died . Islam is in its Reformation period as we experience , time is the only hope After Allah for us Muslim that over the time these Monarch and theocracies will die their own death will result in bringing some young and visioned Leader who will United their people and give equal importance to others . but i don't see that happening any time soon

 

[MuhammedAli]

Where's OIC, the "Muslim" NATO and the Ummah on Trumps attack on Pakistan?
Well, where is it?

OIC is just useless for Muslims just as UN is useless for Muslims. Muslims are weak, feeble minded, stupid, bay-ghayrat and we appointed leaders who are worse then us. This world is for those who stand-up to oppressor and fight for what they believe and want. Our Muslim leaders will only fight each other. They are all in bed with America. I would not be surprise if Nawaz Shareef sent his daughters for s*x duty in White House. These leaders take their trousers off infront of America lubricate their a*** holes and wait for deep penetration from American president. North Korea a bloody looney state on its own stands up and has lasted. If the members of OIC stood up to America then the Americans would not be able to do f*ck all even in this weak feeble state we are in. But our leaders have sold us and we are fu*king thick as shit that we vote useless a-holes into power. Allah said we will not change the state of affair of Muslims until you change yourself. Well the state of affairs of Muslism is that we the Muslims are just as bunch of a-holes and useless pieaces of shit as our leaders. And nothing better will come from Allah for us until we become better Muslims and deserve better. Allah stated: "Allah has promised those who have believed among you and done righteous deeds that He will surely grant them succession [to authority] upon the earth just as He granted it to those before them and that He will surely establish for them [therein] their religion which He has preferred for them and that He will surely substitute for them, after their fear, security, [for] they worship Me, not associating anything with Me. But whoever disbelieves after that - then those are the defiantly disobedient." [Ref:24:55] When the vast majority of Muslims are nominal, Jummah Muslims. And these Jummah Muslims want everything which is against Islam. And Allahs promise of success for Muslims is when they believe and do deeds in accordance with Islamic teachiing then Allah will give rulership and all that he promised in the above verse.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

Well, where is it?

Well the Ummah is with us. Look left and look right. The Ummah stands in lockstep with Pakistan. Proof of of the Ummah that stands by Pakistan -

Athiest Peoples Republic of China
Orthodox Russian Republic
Secular Turkish Republic.

 

[Jungibaaz]

Stupid al-Bakistan, Ummah only exists for those who happen to be floating on oil and need assistance.

 

[Indus Pakistan]

floating on oil

Yep. Floating on oil = Ummah.

 

[Pakistani E]

Hi,

I am surprised if anyone would be stupid enough to say that pakistan HAS great influence in the middle east---can you show any poster's post to this effect---.

Pakistan's influence was gone with rejecting Yemen alliance---. Gen Raheel fckd up bad and he acknowledged it---.

Why would there be an alliance with a murdering nation like Iran---whose presence is the cause of death and destruction for that nation.

I don't have the thread bookmarked, but I do remember a few posters saying how Pakistan joining the Alliance means that we now have our man in the Middle East who will be able to wield enormous influence etc.

But I respectfully disagree when you say Pakistan's influence disappeared after rejecting the Yemen quicksand, because frankly I don't believe Pakistan ever had any influence in the Middle east beforehand. People who have something to give are able to exert influence, what were we giving before we were "asked" to go to Yemen?

Well the Ummah is with us. Look left and look right. The Ummah stands in lockstep with Pakistan. Proof of of the Ummah that stands by Pakistan -

Athiest Peoples Republic of China
Orthodox Russian Republic
Secular Turkish Republic.

But when I was younger, I was told all the Muslim countries look up to Pakistan, was I fed a lie?

 

[Indus Pakistan]

I went as far as to wager that if Raheel was given command of a military force made of various Muslim countries including Arabs - that his he enjoyed direct command over Arab soldiers as a commander in chief I would retire from PDF. Wll you know now what happened but yet there were some jacka*ss here who were getting orgasms thinking about it.

But when I was younger, I was told all the Muslim countries look up to Pakistan, was I fed a lie?

No. I swear you were told the truth and you know I never lie!

Here is one of my favourite threads - https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/saudia-arabia-before-the-oil.470471/