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Where would the country be today if musharraf had told the usa "no"

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Had musharraf decided to fight against America and told them to fuvk off would the Americans wage war against a nuclear Pakistan? Or would they just sit back and put sanctions on Pakistan?
I wish musharraf had told no to America's war on terror.
So many innocent lives were gone and we were on the wrong side of history. If we had fought atleast we would've held our integrity in the Muslim world.

If general zia ul haq was in power I believe he would've went to war against America. I wish I lived in his time he was a True mujahideen.
 
Yes yes, you should expressly network with your Hindutvadi buddy Surya 1 who wrote 32 exams in just one year and with the still alive PhDs of your late "Mard-e-Momin" who were researching how to harness jinn power to generate electricity to end your country's electricity woes. :rofl:
You are a moron who claims to be a Muslim and supports the USSR.

I wonder if you are a Muslim.

I have never met a Muslim who support USSR.
 
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Had musharraf decided to fight against America and told them to fuvk off would the Americans wage war against a nuclear Pakistan? Or would they just sit back and put sanctions on Pakistan?
I wish musharraf had told no to America's war on terror.
So many innocent lives were gone and we were on the wrong side of history. If we had fought atleast we would've held our integrity in the Muslim world.

If general zia ul haq was in power I believe he would've went to war against America. I wish I lived in his time he was a True mujahideen.
Musharraf had no choice but to listen to US dictat. He said so himself in his book 'In the line of Fire'
 
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Musharraf had no choice but to listen to US dictat. He said so himself in his book 'In the line of Fire'


Musharraf had no choice but to listen to US dictat. He said so himself in his book 'In the line of Fire'
That is also what I believe as well. Musharraf had no choice but to cooperate with USA at that time in 2001.

Musharraf was 100% correct in joining the war on terror, it had many dire consequences for Pakistan but the consequences would have been even direr had Pakistan said no to the US. Nuclear weapons mean f*ck all if your economy is horrible. Do these people realise what life is like for an average North Korean citizen? I pray to Allah to ease the suffering of poor North Korean citizens. Our people are already crying about the current economic situation of our country so imagine how they will be reacting if our economy was like that of North Korea. Without immense Chinese support, North Korea would immediately crumble. Nukes alone aren't enough for a country to survive but both nukes and a strong economy are required to guarantee a country's survival.

I strongly appreciate Musharraf's decision to join the war on terror on a macro level but I criticize him on a micro level for how he didn't completely leverage it to Pakistan's advantage. He should have charged a lot more money from NATO for providing them with a route to supply their supplies in Afghanistan. NATO supply trucks destroyed our motorways, as our motorways weren't built for vehicles like that and we didn't ask them for any compensation instead we had to repair these motorways with our own money. He could have done so much more economic cooperation with the US.
I also support Musharraf for cooperating with USA for war on terror.

Otherwise our country would be like Iraq or Syria.
 
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You are a moron who claims to be a Muslim and supports the USSR.

I wonder if you are a Muslim.

I have never met a Muslim who support USSR.
He is NOT a Muslim

He supports rejection of hadiths
He advocates for Women being naked
He advocates for LGBT rights
He thinks Islam and Quran are outdated so they need to be "reformed" according to the modern times

None of these things make him a Muslim
 
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He is NOT a Muslim

He supports rejection of hadiths
He advocates for Women being naked
He advocates for LGBT rights
He thinks Islam and Quran are outdated so they need to be "reformed" according to the modern times

None of these things make him a Muslim
There is only one correct way to interpret the Qur'an.

As Muslims we believe Qur'an is perfect.

lol this @jamahir guy is a troll.
 
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Personally Pakistan would be in serious trouble had Pakistan not cooperated with USA during the 2001 War on terrorism.

We would have been in economic trouble. It was wise to cooperate.
 
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You are a moron who claims to be a Muslim and supports the USSR.

I wonder if you are a Muslim.

I have never met a Muslim who support USSR.

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South Yemen (Arabic: اليمن الجنوبي, romanized: al-Yaman al-Janubiyy), officially the People's Democratic Republic of Yemen (Arabic: جمهورية اليمن الديمقراطية الشعبية, romanized: Jumhūriyat al-Yaman al-Dīmuqrāṭīyah al-Sha'bīyah), also referred to as Democratic Yemen (Arabic: اليمن الديمقراطي, romanized: al-Yaman al-Dīmuqrāṭīyah) or Yemen (Aden) (Arabic: اليمن (عدن), romanized: al-Yaman ('Adin)), was a socialist country that existed from 1967 to 1990 as a state in the Middle East in the southern and eastern provinces of the present-day Republic of Yemen, including the island of Socotra.
The Federation of South Arabia and the Protectorate of South Arabia merged to become the People's Republic of Yemen on 30 November 1967 and later changed its name to the People's Democratic Republic of Yemen. It became a Marxist–Leninist one-party state in 1969 and was supported by Cuba, East Germany and the Soviet Union. It was the only communist state to be established in the Arab world.

Politics and social life​

South Yemen's ethnic groups are ethnic Yemeni Arabs (92.8%), Somalis (3.7%), Afro-Arab 1.1%, Indians and Pakistanis (1%), and other (1.4%) (2000). The only recognised political party in South Yemen was the Yemeni Socialist Party, which ran the country and the economy along self-described Marxist lines, modelled on the Soviet Union.[17]

Women's rights under the socialist government were considered the best in the region. Women became legally equal to men and were encouraged to work in public; polygamy, child marriage, and arranged marriage were all banned; and equal rights in divorce received legal sanction.[18][19][20][21][22]

The Supreme People's Council was appointed by the General Command of the National Liberation Front in 1971.

In Aden, there was a structured judicial system with a Supreme Court.[citation needed]

Education was paid for through general taxation.[citation needed]

Income equality improved, corruption was reduced, and health and educational services expanded.[18]

There was no housing crisis in South Yemen. Surplus housing built by the British meant that there were few homeless people in Aden, and people built their own houses out of adobe and mud in the rural areas.[citation needed]

South Yemen developed as a Marxist-Leninist, mostly secular[23] society ruled first by the National Liberation Front, which later morphed into the ruling Yemeni Socialist Party. The only avowedly Marxist-Leninist nation in the Middle East, South Yemen received significant foreign aid and other assistance from the USSR[24] and East Germany, which stationed several hundred officers of the Stasi in the country to train the nation's secret police and establish another arms trafficking route to Palestine.[25] The East Germans did not leave until 1990, when the Yemeni government declined to pay their salaries which had been terminated with the dissolution of the Stasi during German reunification.
This is to start with. Now I must ask your age and your colleging environment in Pakistan. I don't think you are more than 25.
 
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This is to start with. Now I must ask your age and your colleging environment in Pakistan. I don't think you are more than 25.
Actually my age is 30.

I am trying to go to law school.

my Education background is this:

B.A. Honours Political Science Degree - Carleton University - Canada
Office Administration - Legal - Seneca College - Canada

I have said this multiple times in this forum.

I will be entering law school at the age of 31 Insh'Allah.

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This is to start with. Now I must ask your age and your colleging environment in Pakistan. I don't think you are more than 25.
But I doubt you are a Muslim, because your behavior does not reflect the behavior of a Muslim.
 
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But I doubt you are a Muslim, because your behavior does not reflect the behavior of a Muslim.

You find that because from young on you surrounded yourself with uneducated, unthinking, ritualist Tableeghi idiots who think Islam is all about doing the rounds of mosques 20 times a day in fashion of a Brahman priest and going on three hajjs in five years. You have never been in the company of educated, progressive and rational Muslims.

I gave you the example of South Yemen in the very post you quote. Who do you think they were ? Ancient Egyptians or Greeks ? And you didn't reply back on South Yemen.

You should burn your political science degree if it hasn't given you any knowledge at all about the past and present politics of the modern world. OK Mr. Political Scientist, what all can you tell me about the Japanese Red Army whose female co-founder Fusako Shigenobu was released from jail after spending there for 20 years and she now aged 76 ?
 
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You find that because from young on you surrounded yourself with uneducated, unthinking, ritualist Tableeghi idiots who think Islam is all about doing the rounds of mosques 20 times a day in fashion of a Brahman priest and going on three hajjs in five years. You have never been in the company of educated, progressive and rational Muslims.

I gave you the example of South Yemen in the very post you quote. Who do you think they were ? Ancient Egyptians or Greeks ? And you didn't reply back on South Yemen.

You should burn your political science degree if it hasn't given you any knowledge at all about the past and present politics of the modern world. OK Mr. Political Scientist, what all can you tell me about the Japanese Red Army whose female co-founder Fusako Shigenobu was released from jail after spending there for 20 years and she now aged 76 ?
Now I am convinced you are not really a Muslim. I do not have the hard evidence nor do I know you personally.

But you go against the Orthodoxy of Islamic principles.

You promote a "liberal" or "heterodox" or "wrong" interpretation of Islam.

I am sorry but if you go against the majority of Islamic scholars opinion on certain subjects, how can you be a Muslim then?

If you promote an interpretation that is not agreed upon by the majority then how can you claim to be a Muslim?

If you go against what the Qur'an or the Hadith say how can you be a Muslim then?

So as far as I am concerned, you are not a real Muslim, or you promote a heretical form of Islam.

Claiming to be a Muslim doesn't make you a Muslim.

Ahmadis claim to be Muslim, but Pakistan and Saudi Arabia declares them as Kafirs.

You find that because from young on you surrounded yourself with uneducated, unthinking, ritualist Tableeghi idiots who think Islam is all about doing the rounds of mosques 20 times a day in fashion of a Brahman priest and going on three hajjs in five years. You have never been in the company of educated, progressive and rational Muslims.

I gave you the example of South Yemen in the very post you quote. Who do you think they were ? Ancient Egyptians or Greeks ? And you didn't reply back on South Yemen.

You should burn your political science degree if it hasn't given you any knowledge at all about the past and present politics of the modern world. OK Mr. Political Scientist, what all can you tell me about the Japanese Red Army whose female co-founder Fusako Shigenobu was released from jail after spending there for 20 years and she now aged 76 ?
You are stupid, why should I burn my B.A. Honours Political Science Degree and Legal Secretary Diploma?

Those are my academic accomplishments.
 
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