Where Did the Saudi $Billion Dollar Bribe Go?

[VCheng]

so the Reserves went "off shore" instead of shoring up Pakistani reserves they found themselves converted into UK property. long live House of Sherifs
may their lust and thirst for money never ever end. may they get even more and more and still remain dissatisfied.

No Sir. You are not being correct here, perhaps intentionally. The money was credited to Pakistan, not to any person.

 

[Max]

so the Reserves went "off shore" instead of shoring up Pakistani reserves they found themselves converted into UK property. long live House of Sherifs
may their lust and thirst for money never ever end. may they get even more and more and still remain dissatisfied.

Sir, they bought those properties in 90's according to opposition while PM's son says, in 2005, so these, $1.5 billion have nothing to do with London properties.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Sir, they bought those properties in 90's according to opposition while PM's son says, in 2005, so these, $1.5 billion have nothing to do with London properties.

No Sir. You are not being correct here, perhaps intentionally. The money was credited to Pakistan, not to any person.

thanks gents,
you both are very much convinced that the funds I am pointing at have nothing to do with the property that was gifted by an unnamed Arab country. there was uncanny resemblance which was hard to ignore

the sums involved being huge and almost same in both instances
the brother country being Arab in both instances
our leadership also the same when it comes to one that owns London property or one that accepted the gift in Pakistan.

today I learn how the faithful leadership acts and behaves.

no wonder Kafir Americans are Kafir where Infidel leader like Nixon had to loose his credibility after the water-gate scandal. had he been a Muslim his heart would have been filled with so much "Haza Min Fazle rabi" that he would have rubbished everything against him as the conspiracy of the Zionists

 

[VCheng]

thanks gents,
you both are very much convinced that the funds I am pointing at have nothing to do with the property that was gifted by an unnamed Arab country. there was uncanny resemblance which was hard to ignore

the sums involved being huge and almost same in both instances
the brother country being Arab in both instances
our leadership also the same when it comes to one that owns London property or one that accepted the gift in Pakistan.

today I learn how the faithful leadership acts and behaves.

no wonder Kafir Americans are Kafir where Infidel leader like Nixon had to loose his credibility after the water-gate scandal. had he been a Muslim his heart would have been filled with so much "Haza Min Fazle rabi" that he would have rubbished everything against him as the conspiracy of the Zionists

Sir, monies outside of Pakistan for their source and recipient are a different matter, but perhaps you would like to include other individuals, some decorated, some not, in that list of targets of your ire?

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Sir, monies outside of Pakistan for their source and recipient are a different matter, but perhaps you would like to include other individuals, some decorated, some not, in that list of targets of your ire?

of course I wont. I am not the serving COAS am I. I leave it to him to name and shame the decorated guys

 

[VCheng]

of course I wont. I am not the serving COAS am I. I leave it to him to name and shame the decorated guys

For a smuggled car? Sir, that is not even small potatoes, but mere crumbs, compared to what really goes on.

 

[Irfan Baloch]

For a smuggled car? Sir, that is not even small potatoes, but mere crumbs, compared to what really goes on.

I find your lack of faith disturbing

from 6 to 11 officers from major to general rank got sacked. not just for the smuggled car. this is not the first time either. normally reports are never made public but boy I am telling you.. the punishment and humiliation is very severe and exemplary.

partially seen an officer being drummed out in front of the entire parade. .. his badges snatched from his shoulders and him being escorted out hand cuffed .. its a very humbling site. all benefits revoked, confiscated, title gone, fine and imprisonment. the one I am referring to was related to financial embezzlement.

I cant help you just because you dont get to see it

 

[VCheng]

I find your lack of faith disturbing

from 6 to 11 officers from major to general rank got sacked. not just for the smuggled car. this is not the first time either. normally reports are never made public but boy I am telling you.. the punishment and humiliation is very severe and exemplary.

partially seen an officer being drummed out in front of the entire parade. .. his badges snatched from his shoulders and him being escorted out hand cuffed .. its a very humbling site. all benefits revoked, confiscated, title gone, fine and imprisonment. the one I am referring to was related to financial embezzlement.

I cant help you just because you dont get to see it

Sir, no doubt what you are saying is correct, but there are untold millions abroad held by shell companies with many members, some decorated and some undecorated. Many are used for clandestine programs, and all of them are beyond audits. This gravy train is long, loaded and stops at all stations. (I get to see many things, and I am lucky to have the liberty to call it like it is without needing any help at all, Sir, no offence intended.)

 

[Irfan Baloch]

Sir, no doubt what you are saying is correct, but there are untold millions abroad held by shell companies with many members, some decorated and some undecorated. Many are used for clandestine programs, and all of them are beyond audits. This gravy train is long, loaded and stops at all stations. (I get to see many things, and I am lucky to have the liberty to call it like it is without needing any help at all, Sir, no offence intended.)

you are one smart guy, how smartly you drummed me out of the civilian bashing into my corner to defend the Khakis.


but I agree with you fully. by the way for some reason 2 movies come to my mind

"Pentagon wars"
and " Buffalo Soldiers"

lol one day we might evolve to make movies like these and make some "satisfying criticism"

 

[VCheng]

you are one smart guy, how smartly you drummed me out of the civilian bashing into my corner to defend the Khakis.


but I agree with you fully. by the way for some reason 2 movies come to my mind

"Pentagon wars"
and " Buffalo Soldiers"

lol one day we might evolve to make movies like these and make some "satisfying criticism"

No Sir. All I am saying is that is wrong to concentrate on one person or entity. The rank and file of the fauj are noble and commendable. Many of the higher officers, however, are no better than anyone else in this sad situation.

 

[Jzaib]

Probably end up in nawaz offshore accounts

 

[Thorough Pro]

As far as I remember that 1.5 billion was not aid, just a loan deposit to help our foreign reserves

Some sobering thoughts guys,
when Nawaz Government came in power it made it clear that it was cancelling the Pak-Iran gaspipe line deal. Not much information was out. Saudis didnt like the Idea and neither did the Americans and it was all too convenient.

and then there was the news of Saudi 1.5 Billion dollar "aid" to Pakistan and where it went
http://www.dawn.com/news/1093342


Dar called it a gift to Pakistan (read Sherifs)
.. still remains the mystery.. until the news of nearly a billion pound property at 1 Hyde park surfaced together with panama leaks. the property was "gifted" by an unnamed Arab country for a token money. Sherif family being the the Pakistani Sherifs tried to con the British inland revenue by evading the tax but were threatened and had to pay 34 Million pounds for the same or other properties.


it is really sickening to think that the Saudi bribe to cancel the much needed gas project with Iran was pocketed by the Sherifs. if this money is for other "services" then please elaborate.

disclaimer
this thread is not meant to throw scorn on the Sherifs. they are our leaders of course and their kin will rule us for centuries . they represent our mentality our faith or morality our national attitude towards everything in our lives from dealing , fraud, thievery, dishonesty, lying and then bragging about it.


I am just putting 2 and 2 together to see if that "gift" in London is related to that Saudi bribe to deny us the iranian gas?


http://www.dawn.com/news/640754/finger-on-the-pulse

In Avenfield House overlooking Hyde Park, bang on Park Lane, where Nawaz Sharif's son Hasan owns a splendid home, a two-bedroom flat is currently on sale for £900,000. And one would assume Shahbaz Sharif is higher up in the Sharif hierarchy than Hasan.

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extract from Guardian
http://www.theguardian.com/news/201...world-leaders-tycoons-secret-property-empires

Also named in the files is Mariam Safdar, the married name of the daughter of the Pakistani prime minister, Nawaz Sharif. A 2012 email identifies Safdar, usually known as Mariam Nawaz Sharif, as having been the beneficial owner of two offshore companies that each own flats in Avenfield House on Park Lane.

The Sharif family has previously denied any impropriety in relation to the property, saying they were bought because the Sharif children were studying in London. On Monday the Sharif family issued a statement declaring that Safdar “is not a beneficiary or owner of any of these companies”. Separately Sharif’s son, Hussain, said that the family had done nothing wrong. “It is according to British law and laws of other countries that it is a legal way to avoid unnecessary tax via offshore companies,” he said.

 

[A.M.]

A. The 1.5 billion went into NS' pockets and he bought half of London with the money.

OR

B. The money went into the Forex account of PAKISTAN.



I wonder which one of the above is the correct answer. It must be A.

 

[Kaniska]

there is a clip lol
Lok Sabah.. one of the respected Indian MP on the point of order is telling off BJP govt. seen it on youtube.
the context is like

why Sarkar not doing anything for Nawaz? we invested so much on him.. he is being hounded by Army and his government is under threat. Nawaz is our asset and must be protected. I will look up the video or at least find the name of the guy for you. I am not saying it for the sake of saying as this is not India bashing thread but just mourning the kind of leadership we have

Dear friend...India invested too much does not mean it is only that is invested..This means, BJP being a right wing party who is culturally anti Pakistan has shown drastic flexibility in dealing with Pakistan either our of choice or due compulsion...So that is the investement we are talking about..In any way, I also think that NS is doing well with economy...Because, any way all politicians are corrupt..You simply has to choose the lesser devil one...

 

[Panther 57]

Dear friend...India invested too much does not mean it is only that is invested..This means, BJP being a right wing party who is culturally anti Pakistan has shown drastic flexibility in dealing with Pakistan either our of choice or due compulsion...So that is the investement we are talking about..In any way, I also think that NS is doing well with economy...Because, any way all politicians are corrupt..You simply has to choose the lesser devil one...

on the lighter side, by any means you intend to pay the loans he and his government is taking from IMF?

As far the economy goes