Where are indian proofs of surgical strike inside Pakistan ?

[GumNaam]

Confession under custody never counted as evidence, the reputation of Indian subcontinent police is they will take confession from cat that she is a rabbit.

Uh, that applies to civilians. No enemy combatants who are serving soldiers or officers of the enemy military. They are a different ballgame altogether.

 

[TAC]

I am realy shocked at the utter idiots Modi and his cohorts have proved themselves to be. First like some dehati women they squarely blame Pakistan for Uri attack even before the investigators have got their pants on, never mind reached the site. Then without seeing beyond their noses they start beating their chests / war drums. Now having done all that, they sober up and have chat between themselves and realise that they can't do the square root of jack shit to Pakistan because Pakistan is no push over - try anything dumb and theres a fair chance you're gonna live to regret it.
Now the problem is, like the set of dumb asses they are, they'd pumped up the public mood so much that not doing anything could mean that all of them end up on donkeys with blackened faces and shoe necklases around their necks with Modi on the lead donkey. O shit now what? So some smart *** says - lets just fire some artillary / mortar shells over the LOC which happens all the time anyway, and then get some guy with a bigger turban than my house to say that mighty India has inflicted heavy damage on terrorists and Pakistanis through 'surgical strikes'. Ofcourse Pakistan will deny it because its not true but what the hell, its our word against theirs, we can't prove we did it because we didn't do it - but how they gonna prove we didn't do it?? Our bollywood mindset public and media will lap it up and even if there are a few suspicions, they'll be lost in the name of patriotism. Sure few poor Pakistani and Indian foot soldiers will get killed over this little drama but who cares about them. Main thing is Modi and his team of dumb asses get away with it. Hell it might even get them a few more votes.
Superpower my ***. Superpowers do not do 'surgical strikes' where the only proof that it ever happened is the press conference held to announce them. The world is a big place and has a long history -- any Indian got even one example of any other 'Superpower' doing as many as 7 'surgical strikes' where the only proof that they ever happened was the press conferance to anounce them??
Like the vast majority of common Pakistanis, I believe that the vast majority of common Indians also want peace. Indians just need to wake up and smell the crap their 'leaders' are feeding them.

 

[Menace2Society]

I am realy shocked at the utter idiots Modi and his cohorts have proved themselves to be. First like some dehati women they squarely blame Pakistan for Uri attack even before the investigators have got their pants on, never mind reached the site. Then without seeing beyond their noses they start beating their chests / war drums. Now having done all that, they sober up and have chat between themselves and realise that they can't do the square root of jack shit to Pakistan because Pakistan is no push over - try anything dumb and theres a fair chance you're gonna live to regret it.
Now the problem is, like the set of dumb asses they are, they'd pumped up the public mood so much that not doing anything could mean that all of them end up on donkeys with blackened faces and shoe necklases around their necks with Modi on the lead donkey. O shit now what? So some smart *** says - lets just fire some artillary / mortar shells over the LOC which happens all the time anyway, and then get some guy with a bigger turban than my house to say that mighty India has inflicted heavy damage on terrorists and Pakistanis through 'surgical strikes'. Ofcourse Pakistan will deny it because its not true but what the hell, its our word against theirs, we can't prove we did it because we didn't do it - but how they gonna prove we didn't do it?? Our bollywood mindset public and media will lap it up and even if there are a few suspicions, they'll be lost in the name of patriotism. Sure few poor Pakistani and Indian foot soldiers will get killed over this little drama but who cares about them. Main thing is Modi and his team of dumb asses get away with it. Hell it might even get them a few more votes.
Superpower my ***. Superpowers do not do 'surgical strikes' where the only proof that it ever happened is the press conference held to announce them. The world is a big place and has a long history -- any Indian got even one example of any other 'Superpower' doing as many as 7 'surgical strikes' where the only proof that they ever happened was the press conferance to anounce them??
Like the vast majority of common Pakistanis, I believe that the vast majority of common Indians also want peace. Indians just need to wake up and smell the crap their 'leaders' are feeding them.

India is immature and still very much 3rd world. For a country which has the most poor in the world you can't blame them for being this way.

A very large crack in their society is incoming and only then will they get off Pakistans dick.

 

[ashok mourya]

There is no surgical strike....more Pakistanis belive this good for india....

 

[Imad.Khan]

Ok only one question to you why no one is allowed to visit the places where action occured. And about pictures you can also have them from your all weather friend China they also have eyes in the sky.

First tell us where did the action occur?

Also you forgot to answer my questions, do you want me to repeat them for you?

 

[GumNaam]

There is no surgical strike....more Pakistanis belive this good for india....

So we showed proof that we destroyed bunkers on your side of loc.

now show your proof.

First tell us where did the action occur?

In there dreams in one of these burning bunkers.

Then our heavy shelling woke them up.

 

[Isotope]

the proof we have so far is:
Indian Army coming out to Media and openly stating that they went into the Pakistan side of the Kashmir and killed militants before they could come into India.

other than this, what we have is all hear say I believe. The other data I have so far:
ex Army minister saying that Helis were used to drop commandos on Indian side who then trekked to the Pakistan side

rest, everything looks bleak to me. (Indian media claiming "sources").

If anyone have anything else, please share.

Due to the lack of all information, the picture is real murky right now. One can only deduct from whatever information is out there which is something like, Indian Army brought a battalion to attack a PA Company across the LOC. However, due to all the hype created by URI attack, Pakistani forces were already on the highest alert therefore the attack was beaten back.

These days everyone has cameras. Had there been a knock out on Pakistani side, a video would have been made of it and shown when DGMO was giving the briefing. However, when a Journalist asked about the video, the DGMO said, it's a secret and we are keeping it as a secret and will show it at an opportune time. You can extract whatever you want from this.

Secondly, truth will come out eventually. Sooner or later, the dead soldiers will have to be taken back to their native areas to be buried. It is not possible to bury these dead soldiers secretly somewhere or make them just simply disappear. We know for fact, Pakistani side suffered two casualties, one was from GB and one was from Faisalabad and most of us here have probably seen their pictures.

 

[HAIDER]

Indian media trusts Modi blindly

After watching this program ....Indian media is third grade. Even Indian govt point finger at its own DGMO.....lolzz.........wait few weeks Indian movie in making.....Pakistani media is very mature and respectful and FREE. This senior Indian journalist more patriot then practical....

 

[GumNaam]

Due to the lack of all information, the picture is real murky right now. One can only deduct from whatever information is out there which is something like, Indian Army brought a battalion to attack a PA Company across the LOC. However, due to all the hype created by URI attack, Pakistani forces were already on the highest alert therefore the attack was beaten back.

These days everyone has cameras. Had there been a knock out on Pakistani side, a video would have been made of it and shown when DGMO was giving the briefing. However, when a Journalist asked about the video, the DGMO said, it's a secret and we are keeping it as a secret and will show it at an opportune time. You can extract whatever you want from this.

Secondly, truth will come out eventually. Sooner or later, the dead soldiers will have to be taken back to their native areas to be buried. It is not possible to bury these dead soldiers secretly somewhere or make them just simply disappear. We know for fact, Pakistani side suffered two casualties, one was from GB and one was from Faisalabad and most of us here have probably seen their pictures.

Bro, they cremate there dead, remember? They may just burn them and toss the charred bodies somewhere. I wouldn't put it past their crooked leadership.

 

[Isotope]

No matter what, due to all the hype created on surgical strikes, and so many people involved in this, the truth will come out.

A military option is not an option any more for either side. However, if one side wants to claim this as a success and prove to its public that it indeed took a quick action at an early time, for the sake of peace in the region, let it be. The current situation at the border needs to be diffused.

 

[BRAVO_]

A surgical strike operation by Indian forces begs the question of whether Indian forces have the capability to launch such a sophisticated and coordinated attack.

Surgical strikes can be conducted through airborne or artillery based precision guided strikes or ground force based assaults; both of which require sophisticated intelligence collection, platforms to conduct collections, and surveillance of target sites and objectives.

India is still on the cusp of building a sophisticated and modernized asymmetrical capability to conduct counterterror operations, while much of its forces are still organized and trained on Cold War models.

Over the last decade, India has spearheaded efforts to modernize her military to include domestic production of unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs). Rostum I and Rostum II could provide India with an air platform capable of surgical strikes, long loiter times for target surveillance, and intelligence collection. However, these platforms are still in development and Rostum II just began test trials this summer. India’s drone development program is still in its infancy.

As for artillery in 2015 India and BAE finalized contracts for the sale and development of new M777 155 mm howitzer system, capable of firing the new Excalibur GPS guided shell. However, development and productionof the artillery system is not slated to begin until 2018.

India does currently field a Russian GPS guided munition called the Krasnopol, though its precision fire support is within a 30-40 km radius and its accuracy is far less when compared to the new Excalibur shell.

As far as precision strike missile capability, India has recently acquired the U.S. anti-tank guided missile (ATGM) Hellfire, which has frequently been used for targeting operations by U.S. forces. India is currently producing a domestic ATGM called the Helina, a helicopter launched precision strike missile, though this missile is still undergoing testing.

Furthermore, a cross border air raid by either heliborne assets or drones would still prove exceedingly difficult as Pakistan boasts an incredibly impressive air defense system. Pakistan controlled Kashmir is a high threat area for shoulder fired surface to air missiles, some of which have found their way into the hands of militant groups. Any air operation over the territory would be under threat from these weapon systems.

now questions is ... how they did it ? where they did it, what targets achieved? which Mujhadeen leaders got killed? the proofs which they were suppose to show to media on 30th September they are not yet brought forward.... ?

 

[HAIDER]

No matter what, due to all the hype created, and so many people involved in this, the truth will come out.

A military option is not an option any more for either side. However, if one side wants to claim this as a success and prove to its public that it indeed took a quick action at an early time, for the sake of peace in the region, let it be. The current situation needs to be diffused.

There is mass Kashmiri freedom movement. it indigenous , but India mass murdering and calling it terrorism. ......over 100 people killed in last few weeks.......All Kashmiri are terrorist ???..not India heat up the LOC to show the world its due to terrorism from Pakistan......any sane person will buy this mantra ??

 

[UniverseWatcher]

Look at me I am doing a surgical strike with the emo somebody get the media

 

[Zee-shaun]

I am realy shocked at the utter idiots Modi and his cohorts have proved themselves to be. First like some dehati women they squarely blame Pakistan for Uri attack even before the investigators have got their pants on, never mind reached the site. Then without seeing beyond their noses they start beating their chests / war drums. Now having done all that, they sober up and have chat between themselves and realise that they can't do the square root of jack shit to Pakistan because Pakistan is no push over - try anything dumb and theres a fair chance you're gonna live to regret it.
Now the problem is, like the set of dumb asses they are, they'd pumped up the public mood so much that not doing anything could mean that all of them end up on donkeys with blackened faces and shoe necklases around their necks with Modi on the lead donkey. O shit now what? So some smart *** says - lets just fire some artillary / mortar shells over the LOC which happens all the time anyway, and then get some guy with a bigger turban than my house to say that mighty India has inflicted heavy damage on terrorists and Pakistanis through 'surgical strikes'. Ofcourse Pakistan will deny it because its not true but what the hell, its our word against theirs, we can't prove we did it because we didn't do it - but how they gonna prove we didn't do it?? Our bollywood mindset public and media will lap it up and even if there are a few suspicions, they'll be lost in the name of patriotism. Sure few poor Pakistani and Indian foot soldiers will get killed over this little drama but who cares about them. Main thing is Modi and his team of dumb asses get away with it. Hell it might even get them a few more votes.
Superpower my ***. Superpowers do not do 'surgical strikes' where the only proof that it ever happened is the press conference held to announce them. The world is a big place and has a long history -- any Indian got even one example of any other 'Superpower' doing as many as 7 'surgical strikes' where the only proof that they ever happened was the press conferance to anounce them??
Like the vast majority of common Pakistanis, I believe that the vast majority of common Indians also want peace. Indians just need to wake up and smell the crap their 'leaders' are feeding them.

Excellent post

 

[el che]

Too much confusion. If Pakistan Army says they have body of 8 Indian soldiers then it confirms that indeed Indian army crossed over to LOC. However there is no official statement in this regard. India army should give a statement so that Pakistan cannot deny the incident. Pertinent to mention the denial of Pakistan during Kargil while soldiers were named as mujahideens. Till then speculations and mud slinging will continue. Truth should be established whatever that may be.