Where are friends of Libya now?

[lem34]

Interesting article on how people are still being killed in Libya. Syrians should take note and be careful of countries pretending to be friends with ulterior motives

Renewed clashes between Libyan militias, 26 dead

Published: 04 April, 2012, 18:00
Edited: 05 April, 2012, 02:07

At least 26 people have been killed as violence flares up once again in the western Libyan town of Zwara.

*This comes after tensions sparked over the weekend between the Arab-majority town of Ragdalein and the Berber-dominated town of Zwara, about 110 kilometers west of the capital Tripoli.

The violence is fuelled by deep-rooted animosity between the neighbors, who took different sides in Libya's civil war that toppled Muammar Gaddafi last year.

The clashes had escalated by Tuesday, with militia groups opening tank and artillery fire on each other. At least 22 people died in the fighting.

The National Transitional Council (NTC), which took power after Gaddafi's capture and killing in October, has struggled to stamp its authority on the country and rein in the myriad armed groups that helped defeat the Colonel's forces but have refused to disarm.

These local rivalries threaten to divide Libya along tribal and regional lines.

 

[Audio]

How is it friends' fault if they (the Libyans) can't agree with each other on anything?

They got the means to talk, not my problem if they dont know how.

 

[ahfatzia]

That's how they are. Those self righteous hypocrites always mess up one country after another thinking they're doing god's works and disappear just as fast. Now they just go home and wash off all their blood in their hands and change clothes and become friends of Syria.

 

[lem34]

That's how they are. Those self righteous hypocrites always mess up one country after another thinking they're doing god's works and disappear just as fast. Now they just go home and wash off all their blood in their hands and change clothes and become friends of Syria.

That's what is worrying. But I think they "friends" know exactly what they are doing.

 

[lem34]

How is it friends' fault if they (the Libyans) can't agree with each other on anything?

They got the means to talk, not my problem if they dont know how.

Tell that to the Syrians then

 

[Audio]

Tell that to the Syrians then

Tell what? That they are responsible for themselves after dictator is gone?

You are such a hypocrite: if there were boots on the ground in Libya you would be screaming of infidel injustice, when there are only aircraft used to get rid of a dictator you are screaming also and trying to blame NATO for the inability and tribal mentality of the Libyans.

That's how they are. Those self righteous hypocrites always mess up one country after another thinking they're doing god's works and disappear just as fast. Now they just go home and wash off all their blood in their hands and change clothes and become friends of Syria.

What exactly would you propose? Nation building? There is no money nor interest for that in Libya or Syria...

We aren't here to hold anyone's hand. We just dont want a terrorist breeding shithole 500km away from Europe. Grow up. Take responsability for your own country. You got enough help.

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

That's what is worrying. But I think they "friends" know exactly what they are doing.

So did u support Quadhafi's killing campaign?
The west intervened, which is wrong i accept, but some 100s of life have been saved..
U and i can discuss anything, sitting safely in home, but we must also understand the state of people who are caught in cross fires, selected kills, and are living under the cloud of death !!!

 

[Emmie]

They will join the feast again when freedom fighters of today will become terrorists, terrorists here means terrorists in their view.

 

[lem34]

So did u support Quadhafi's killing campaign?
The west intervened, which is wrong i accept, but some 100s of life have been saved..
U and i can discuss anything, sitting safely in home, but we must also understand the state of people who are caught in cross fires, selected kills, and are living under the cloud of death !!!

How have 100's been saved? I just do not accept that. But hey what does it matter Libya's oil is being stolen now so west is happy

 

[ahfatzia]

Tell what? That they are responsible for themselves after dictator is gone?

You are such a hypocrite: if there were boots on the ground in Libya you would be screaming of infidel injustice, when there are only aircraft used to get rid of a dictator you are screaming also and trying to blame NATO for the inability and tribal mentality of the Libyans.



What exactly would you propose? Nation building? There is no money nor interest for that in Libya or Syria...

We aren't here to hold anyone's hand. Grow up. Take responsability for your own country. You got enough help.

When a nation or a group of nations assist to rid of a leader of another nation, she/they have the sole responsibility to stabilize that country until she gets back on her feet. It's the same when a man impregnates a girl he has to take the responsibilities.

 

[lem34]

Tell what? That they are responsible for themselves after dictator is gone?

You are such a hypocrite: if there were boots on the ground in Libya you would be screaming of infidel injustice, when there are only aircraft used to get rid of a dictator you are screaming also and trying to blame NATO for the inability and tribal mentality of the Libyans.



What exactly would you propose? Nation building? There is no money nor interest for that in Libya or Syria...

We aren't here to hold anyone's hand. We just dont want a terrorist breeding shithole 500km away from Europe. Grow up. Take responsability for your own country. You got enough help.

We just want you to frack off and not get involved at all to be brutally honest

 

[Hussein]

When a nation or a group of nations assist to rid of a leader of another nation, she/they have the sole responsibility to stabilize that country until she gets back on her feet. It's the same when a man impregnates a girl he has to take the responsibilities.

NO
you didn't understand at all what was happening so i suggest you to read some facts before:
- there was some resolution by UNO , so why Western armies would go beyond , such beyond this resolution and come on the land of Libya to do whatever they want without invitation of Libyan people? non sense
- the people of Libya asked for humanitarian help to save them from a massacre from a crazy dictator, like Asad in Syria, who get such blood on his hands but some people in this forum are still proud of him (lol )

 

[Rajaraja Chola]

How have 100's been saved? I just do not accept that. But hey what does it matter Libya's oil is being stolen now so west is happy

i NEVER SAID THE WEST IS SELFLESS...
West nations are the most selfish of the lots, and i don dispute that..... And ya they are now controlling libya's oil.....'
But it doesnt change the fact, they have saved many lives....
Qadhafi had used mercenaries to kill his own people.....
The NTC would have won without western intervention, but it could have taken months more plus more civilians plus rebel fighters lives....
Life is precious, wherever(not bad guys though)....

 

[Audio]

We just want you to frack off and not get involved at all to be brutally honest

This is our backyard. Where do you think young Libyans wil go if their country fails? That's right, in small boats across the Mediteranean. What qualities will they bring apart from milking the social services?

Your argument is flawed.

The NTC would have won without western intervention, but it could have taken months more plus more civilians plus rebel fighters lives.....

No they wouldn't. Gadaffi tanks were rolling against the rebel strongholds when the bombs started flying.

When a nation or a group of nations assist to rid of a leader of another nation, she/they have the sole responsibility to stabilize that country until she gets back on her feet. It's the same when a man impregnates a girl he has to take the responsibilities.

Hey, they are alive. Does that count for standing on their own feet?

 

[Patriot]

NO
you didn't understand at all what was happening so i suggest you to read some facts before:
- there was some resolution by UNO , so why Western armies would go beyond , such beyond this resolution and come on the land of Libya to do whatever they want without invitation of Libyan people? non sense
- the people of Libya asked for humanitarian help to save them from a massacre from a crazy dictator, like Asad in Syria, who get such blood on his hands but some people in this forum are still proud of him (lol )

With people like you Iran does not need any external enemies.