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Shujaat Bukhari 02 Oct 2015

Kasuri lays bare the ‘Kashmir framework’ that India and Pakistan arrived at between 2004 and 2007





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India and Pakistan have not been able to come up with a just solution to the Kashmir problem in 68 years. The only thing that has come out of it is the mutual mistrust that looms large over the relations between the two bitter neighbors.

But the period from 2004 to 2007 was undoubtedly one that saw a sea change not only in the thinking of the people at the helm, but also on the ground. In the words of former Pakistani foreign minister Khurshid Mahmud Kasuri, in 2007 the “solution to Kashmir was in the grasp of both governments”.

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In his book ‘Neither a Hawk nor a Dove’, which is yet to be released in India, Kasuri gives minute details of the ‘Kashmir framework’ that the two countries had arrived at. He even shares the details of the non-paper that brought an unprecedented change in the attitude of the two governments and their thought process on Kashmir.

The rather lengthy autobiography, spread over 851 pages, is a chronicle of the most important period in India-Pakistan ties. While Kasuri praises former president Pervez Musharraf’s out-of-the-box thinking and justifies his departure from Islamabad’s stated position on Kashmir, he also gives full credit to the statesmanship of former Indian prime minister Atal Bihari Vajpayee and his close confidant Brajesh Mishra, who happened to be the National Security Advisor during those years.

Kasuri vehemently defends the “four-point formula” – a non-paper to which only five people were privy at that time. And he has done the best defense he could by sharing that in his book. “I have gone beyond the four points. People will be able to understand what we did on the backchannel framework on Kashmir,” he said in an interview. He also denies that Pakistan made a U-turn or that the four-point formula amounted to giving up its position on Kashmir. “That Pakistan was offering concession on all issues without any quid pro quo from India and that pro-Pakistan elements in Kashmir were being isolated – such perceptions were misplaced,” he said. “There was no U-turn on Kashmir. I had repeatedly spoken of the need for reciprocal flexibility by both India and Pakistan.”

Almost all prominent Kashmiri leaders were consulted from time to time during the preparation of the framework, Kasuri says. He narrates how in September 2004, the Government of India tried to discourage him from meeting Hurriyat leaders during his visit to Delhi, but he went ahead. “Significantly, a day prior to my meeting with Foreign Minister Singh, I received an informal message from the Indian government that I should not meet the Kashmiri leaders, particularly Syed Ali Geelani, as this could adversely impact our bilateral talks the following day. However, I remained convinced that there could be no acceptable resolution of the Kashmir dispute without taking the Kashmiri leadership on board. Accordingly, I decided to go ahead with my planned meeting.” The leader she met included Geelani, Mirwaiz Umar Farooq, Yasin Malik and Shabir Shah.

“There was no U-turn on Kashmir”

This is important, compared with the atmosphere before the planned meeting between the Indian and Pakistani national security advisers that was cancelled on August 23, only because New Delhi objected to Sartaj Aziz’s meeting with these leaders.

Recalling his meetings with Geelani in Delhi, Kasuri notes that he was generally inflexible in his approach to resolving the Kashmir dispute. “He described President Musharraf’s four-point agenda as vague, and criticized the president’s statement on UNSC resolutions’ relevance to Kashmir. To my surprise, he commented on Pakistan’s foreign policy generally and was critical of the Wana Operation – a purely internal matter of Pakistan,” he writes. “Fortunately, other Kashmiri leaders I met recognized the need for unity in the ranks of Kashmiris. They were more pragmatic and by and large unwilling to go along with Geelani’s rigid approach.”

Kasuri says Pakistan was clear in its thinking that no agreement between New Delhi and Islamabad could be sold to the people of Pakistan unless the vast majority of Kashmiris accepted it. This, he says, required trying to understand what the Kashmiris really desired. “For this purpose, I interacted with Kashmiri leaders in Islamabad, New Delhi and in other capitals, sometimes secretly.”

Demilitarization and a ‘joint mechanism’ were the most significant parts of the framework. Pakistan had laid stress on former. Under the ambit of a joint mechanism, both sides would evolve common policies for development and water issues. The foreign ministers of India and Pakistan were proposed to meet once a year to monitor the progress of the agreement, which would be subject to review at the end of 15 years. Finally, the conclusion on the backchannel was to sign the Treaty of Peace, Security and Friendship after a resolution of the outstanding issues, including Jammu and Kashmir. Kasuri strongly believes that this was the solution to the unending acrimonious relations between the two countries in which Kashmir was the centre point. Unlike past negotiations, he says this was the best way to move forward, and backchannel diplomacy did help in reaching very close to a solution. “It is a solution, which they could sell to their respective constitutional authorities and their people.”

Salient points of the proposed Kashmir agreement

  1. Reducing violence: Controlling cross-LoC movement of militants, an end to the terror support structure, and dismantling terror infrastructure directed towards India
  2. Demilitarization: Both sides were to reduce their military footprints, initially by withdrawing troops from civilian areas
  3. Self-Governance: Strengthening Article 370 and identical measures of self-governance on both sides of Jammu and Kashmir
  4. Elections: Free and fair elections on both sides, open to the scrutiny of international observers and media
  5. Defining Units of Kashmir: To address Pakistan’s claim on Gilgit-Baltistan, its gateway to China, it was decided to allow countries to hold administrative control of one or two regions
  6. Joint Mechanism: Elected representatives nominated by governments would form a joint body to monitor cross-LoC trade, tour, travel etc
  7. Common policies towards development and water resources: A body, along with both governments, would evolve common policies towards water and development issues
  8. A monitoring and review process: Foreign ministers of the two countries would meet once a year to review progress. The agreement would come under review after 15 years
  9. Treaty of Peace, Security and Friendship: The two countries would sign the treaty after outstanding issues are addressed. It would give them stakes in each other’s economic development
The author is a veteran journalist from Srinagar and the editor-in-chief of

Rising Kashmir

When Kashmir was almost resolved ‹ The Friday Times
 
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The only Solution left for Kashmir is to declare Kashmir Valley as an Independent Country and BOTH India and Pakistan can keep their Occupied areas under their control.
 
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80-90% of these peace points were also offered by Nawaz Shareef just a few days ago at UN & we saw how dihati nation reacted to it.

The funny thing is India says they agreed with Musharraf peace points & were ready to implement it but how so the same India refused same proposal made by Nawaz? Why the hypocrisy?


Is that because of Modi-fication of India?



Anyways it is clear that India doesn't want Peace.
 
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80-90% of these peace points were also offered by Nawaz Shareef just a few days ago at UN & we saw how dihati nation reacted to it.

The funny thing is India says they agreed with Musharraf peace points & were ready to implement it but how so the same India refused same proposal made by Nawaz? Why the hypocrisy?


Is that because of Modi-fication of India?



Anyways it is clear that India doesn't want Peace.

80-90%??

lets see..

Nawaz's statement...


One, we propose that Pakistan and India formalize and respect the 2003 understanding for a complete ceasefire on the Line of Control in Kashmir. For this purpose, we call for UNMOGIP's expansion to monitor the observance of the ceasefire.

"Two, we propose, that Pakistan and India reaffirm that they will not resort to the use or the threat of use of force under any circumstances. This is a central element of the UN Charter.

"Three, steps be taken to demilitarise Kashmir.

"Four, agree to an unconditional mutual withdrawal from Siachen Glacier, the world's highest battleground," he said.

but all of these for "Indian Kashmir"..

what happen to these??

  1. Reducing violence: Controlling cross-LoC movement of militants, an end to the terror support structure, and dismantling terror infrastructure directed towards India
  2. Demilitarization: Both sides were to reduce their military footprints, initially by withdrawing troops from civilian areas
  3. Self-Governance: Strengthening Article 370 and identical measures of self-governance on both sides of Jammu and Kashmir
  4. Elections: Free and fair elections on both sides, open to the scrutiny of international observers and media
  5. Defining Units of Kashmir: To address Pakistan’s claim on Gilgit-Baltistan, its gateway to China, it was decided to allow countries to hold administrative control of one or two regions
  6. Joint Mechanism: Elected representatives nominated by governments would form a joint body to monitor cross-LoC trade, tour, travel etc
  7. Common policies towards development and water resources: A body, along with both governments, would evolve common policies towards water and development issues
  8. A monitoring and review process: Foreign ministers of the two countries would meet once a year to review progress. The agreement would come under review after 15 years
  9. Treaty of Peace, Security and Friendship: The two countries would sign the treaty after outstanding issues are addressed. It would give them stakes in each other’s economic development
and Siachen??Oh Please.Pakistan is not in Siachen,so they don't have any right to dictate what we're going to do or not.

Is there a single mention of "Pakistani Sponsored Terrorism" directed at India,which is the main issue?? NO
Is there any mention of "P - O - K" and Gilgit Baltistan?? No

when world see Nawaz's 4 point Peace Proposal,they can perfectly picture a country which is on one hand hiding its wrong doing in its part of Kashmir,not trying to discuss it any way,trying to discuss only other part which is outside of its grasp.They can picture a country which is ceaselessly funding,training and sending its people to wage war in another country and yet came to UN to "Propose a Peaceful Solution".They can picture a country which is now not in a position to carry out "Costliest Deployments around LOC" and beaten in "Unconventional War" is trying to secure that if they pullout their troops,India will not take an opportunity to cease it.

World is not a place of Fool.Pakistan can harp as much "4 Points" as much wish,but nobody,I repeat nobody are going to say a word on it.Because they know about "Shimla Pact".They know their limitations on this issue.
 
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If musharraf's plan was implemented ,it wud have given india some administrative control over gb and perhaps ajk ,then it means today ,that is in 2015 ,gb and ajk ppl wud have been protesting againt Beef ban as well, like their cuzns on the other side of border.

Isnt it @engineer saad @fakhre mirpur ?
 
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If musharraf's plan was implemented ,it wud have given india some administrative control over gb and perhaps ajk ,then it means today ,that is in 2015 ,gb and ajk ppl wud have been protesting againt Beef ban as well, like their cuzns on the other side of border.

Isnt it @engineer saad @fakhre mirpur ?
A Indian will step in AJK over my dead body.
I don't like Musharraf i like Hamid Gul.
 
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Kashmir issue is just a self created issue deliberately been created to continue a sensation in the region by India and its allies. The rationale was always self evident otherwise
 
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The only Solution left for Kashmir is to declare Kashmir Valley as an Independent Country and BOTH India and Pakistan can keep their Occupied areas under their control.
The most foolish thing India can do.
Ain't going to happen give the amount of money and efforts India has spent in Jammu and Kashmir all these decades.
Go ask the Chinese to declare Tibet as an independent country and you will know our feelings from their response.

Kashmir issue is just a self created issue deliberately been created to continue a sensation in the region by India and its allies. The rationale was always self evident otherwise
Then why is Pakistan involving in Kashmir when it knows this is a self-created issue ?
Truth is not what you say. The actual reason is 'Ego'.
We call it Pakistan's ego and you guys call it India's ego.
 
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A Indian will step in AJK over my dead body.
I don't like Musharraf i like Hamid Gul.
Seriously bara ghatiya plan tha ,no way ppl shud allow indians back in gb and ajk. And he was giving joint governance of gb to india. Hadh hai. One must slap this musharraf for that. Bekaar admi tha.

Hamid gul used to say that if musharraf hadnt bowed down before usa, allowing her our air bases' access for afghanistan , usa would not have been able to do anything against us ...despite the threats given to Pakistan by bush. Same threats tht coward musharraf always used as an excuse for giving in to usa pressure.

No matter how much ppl curse hamid gul...he made lot more sense then likes of useless musharrafs.
 
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