When India held firm and carved out a nation called Bangladesh.

[nForce]

A question of strategic importance


What did India get by carving out Bangladesh with no strategic gains in mind. It is much like the empty brained atal bihari vajpaye othering indian millitary to mobilise and lost 700+ soldiers for no reason. Indias moves completely destabilized asia and encouraged Pakistan to be a part of Afganistan fiasco, dissolution of USSR and today's unstable situation of Asia. Which only affirms the belief that India is a unstable and fragile country which could set fire to whole region which its twisted hegemonic ambitions!

I think I had addressed that at the beginning of the thread.
Well,its not like India carved out BD from Pakistan.The Bengalis of East Bengal pretty much did it.India gave the finishing touch.
Benefits for India?

Well Pakistan had a hostile attitude towards India since inception.So,its better to have a hostile Pakistan on one front less.Better to have hostility on Western border only,rather than on Eastern front as well.We dont maintain much army and heavy equipments in the Eastern border with BD.Same is with airforce and navy.So,our cost and other burden comes down.

We have a higher level of trade with BD,something that would not have happened with East Pakistan,or there would have been very less chance for it.

The Pakistani army was totally demoralized,something which was required from Indian point of view.

 

[Vinod2070]

^^ The answers are obvious.

Some people make all sorts of "khayali pulao" to try and get some solace out of the worst situations.

 

[somebozo]

During 1970's India was undergoing the worst economic disaster associated with socialism. The local economy was in shambles and political integrity of the union was at full stake. Indra desperate needly a scape goat to divert attention from internal issues to something which made like "motherland in danger". And Pakistan came to be a favourite scape goat as usual. If saving revolting Bangladeshis was a valid excuse of Indian interference in East-Pakistan and arming the terrorist then same can be argued in favour of IOK. India should not actively deport journalist reporting on mass graves in IOK.

India's policy at best can be described at amateurish which depended on covert terrorist infiltration and the muscle might of USSR. The far reaching implications of Indian interference in then East-Pakistan destablized the region for long term and laid the foundation for Pakistani complicity in Afghan-Soviet war which eventually became a financial drain on Soviet union and let to its disintegration.

Had India not interferred in internal political issues of Pakistan, the regional reality would be completely different. It only affirms the belief that behind the "democracy" facade, India is ruled by incompetent bunch of leaders which could be far dangerous when armed. It is notable that USSR did not acheive much by supporting its ally India out of ego other than further alienation and combined animosity from many countries in Asia.


Just three years after its creation, Pakistan and Bangladesh were back in the friendship fold.. 1971 fiasco became an episode long forgetten but India still struggles to forge alliances in Bangladesh..talk about strategic short slightness!

 

[Kaniska]

You can also make good friendship with BD... It is as easy as abc.... you just need an effective foreign policy with Bangladesh rather than supporting one party blindly....

@Farhan...I hope your words are true ...and i wish it is as easy as abc...Of course even i dont deny the fact that it is a one kind of foreign policy issue from india for which india bd relation is just ok..But i see a major issue that day by day BD people simply love to hate anything india rather than in any cause...And the major prob is that as enemy in Pakistan, I find although there is small minority but i find there is significant section of people in pakistan who really wish a stable and good relation with India...but unfortunately i dont find the same in BD...See..i find people from BD either just ok or they just hate india...but you can find majority people of in india who really mean to love good relation with BD...(Avoid trollers)...But i find that significant and senior member from BD are really hate india and in particular to Hindus...so now tell me where does lie the middle ground?....

 

[Nelson]

During 1970's India was undergoing the worst economic disaster associated with socialism. The local economy was in shambles and political integrity of the union was at full stake. Indra desperate needly a scape goat to divert attention from internal issues to something which made like "motherland in danger". And Pakistan came to be a favourite scape goat as usual.

Wrong. West Pakistanis raped killed Bangalis, 10 million Bengalis fled to India for refuge. Therefore India intervened and freed Bangalis from Pakistan. This is the real version of history. Though you can continue believing in your textbook version. I just thought I should bless the ignorant.

 

[kobiraaz]

Wrong. West Pakistanis raped killed Bangalis, 10 million Bengalis fled to India for refuge. Therefore India intervened and freed Bangalis from Pakistan. This is the real version of history. Though you can continue believing in your textbook version. I just thought I should bless the ignorant.

May i add to it?? According to Hasina Agartala conspiracy case was true... That means india was involved in the procees since 1969!!

 

[Al-zakir]

On the Other hand, the 1971 was a face off between India and Pakistan and as a result, UN got a new member state ....

Also, a member of OIC nation. We did separated from Pakistan but we still consider them brothers from another mother. This is because we are brothers in Islam. Most Bangladeshi Muslims moved on 71 fiasco and would like to rebuild lost brotherhood. We have come a long way and soon we will be sipping Chai together Insh'Allah.

on the flip side, most Bangladeshi dislike and mistrust you. We rather want no relation with you. So technically Pakistani didn't loose much by loosing us because we are still some how feel connected with them.

 

[SQ8]

This people who post in this thread should be mindful that they are on a tight leash.. Anything even construed as offensive will be harshly dealt with.

 

[kobiraaz]

@Farhan...I hope your words are true ...and i wish it is as easy as abc...Of course even i dont deny the fact that it is a one kind of foreign policy issue from india for which india bd relation is just ok..But i see a major issue that day by day BD people simply love to hate anything india rather than in any cause...And the major prob is that as enemy in Pakistan, I find although there is small minority but i find there is significant section of people in pakistan who really wish a stable and good relation with India...but unfortunately i dont find the same in BD...See..i find people from BD either just ok or they just hate india...but you can find majority people of in india who really mean to love good relation with BD...(Avoid trollers)...But i find that significant and senior member from BD are really hate india and in particular to Hindus...so now tell me where does lie the middle ground?....

Well.. You just see one side of the coin.... There is one group of people who hate india from core, mainly Jamatis. They form very small part of Bangladesh.. Beside them there are BNP supporters and nationalists.... Who try to demonize india just to gain popularity against hasina.... This is where india has fault in their policy...

 

[kobiraaz]

On topic : my question is why USA didnt attack????

 

[Al-zakir]

Very unfortunate coming from a Bangladeshi. We saved you and you became "Ehsaan Faramosh."

Isn't it strange that all the alphabets in your name are there in "Ehsaan Faramosh!"??

What if we think it wasn't Ehsaan rather Kabab mein haddi. You should have took the role as spectator and let us handle our internal matter. As Farhan said, most of us weren't looking for separation, but your ilk and situation broke as apart. We knew your intention all along but our population had to go along because it was pressed on us. We can not be grateful to a nation who's main intention was to make us weak.

You got what you wanted so expect hate in return.

 

[Nelson]

May i add to it?? According to Hasina Agartala conspiracy case was true... That means india was involved in the procees since 1969!!

That was never proved. No wonder why they call it conspiracy..

 

[harpoon]

May i add to it?? According to Hasina Agartala conspiracy case was true... That means india was involved in the procees since 1969!!

That doesn't absolve PA of the terror they unleashed on their own population.

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May i add to it?? According to Hasina Agartala conspiracy case was true... That means india was involved in the procees since 1969!!

That doesn't absolve PA of the terror they unleashed on their own population.

 

[SQ8]

That doesn't absolve PA of the terror they unleashed on their own population.

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That doesn't absolve PA of the terror they unleashed on their own population.

It doesn't. Even if it was reactionary.. it does not and never will absolve the rest of Pakistan of mistreating its brethren who had raised a lot more support for the nation than those in the west.

 

[golmaal]

Also, a member of OIC nation. We did separated from Pakistan but we still consider them brothers from another mother. This is because we are brothers in Islam. Most Bangladeshi Muslims moved on 71 fiasco and would like to rebuild lost brotherhood. We have come a long way and soon we will be sipping Chai together Insh'Allah.

on the flip side, most Bangladeshi dislike and mistrust you. We rather want no relation with you. So technically Pakistani didn't loose much by loosing us because we are still some how feel connected with them.

We are not expecting any gratitude from BD side.. but atleast give us some respect as a neighbor..
Bcz of we, you got your independence from intruder state and we help to stop Annihilation of your people from Pakistan force..