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When are you going back to Arabia?’: Chinese Muslims became the target of online hate

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So, it's okay that China bans Ramadan fasting? What is your opinion on that? I don't think this is propaganda. It's UAE news agency. At least we don't do this.
http://www.khaleejtimes.com/international/rest-of-asia/china-bans-ramadan-fasting-in-muslim-region
Putting up CCTV surveillance inside mosque. Huge military presence in Xinjiang region!
I know, money talks.:disagree:

I Have Actually Fasted In Xinjiang During Ramzan and Have Also Prayed At The Mosque in Kashgar.China Being Communist Theoretically Rejects Religious Activity But As Long As Your Not Challenging The Political Authority and Not Creating A Law and Order Situation They Tend To Look The Other Way

i don't hate Muslim, and I'm a Chinese. This article is full of lies and stir up!

We have very strong relationship with Pakistan, Iran, Saudi, Even Egypt! It is we'll known that China is a friend of Muslim world! typical dirty slander fabricated by the westerners to fish in trouble water. Many Uyghers earned millions in my home time by selling traditional food, I often visit their restaurant for enjoyment! Nice culture and nice food and nice people!

Fact of The Matter is Islam Is The Most Popular Religion Amongst Chinese Youth

http://www.ibtimes.com/religion-chi...most-popular-among-followers-under-30-1998282
 
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I Have Actually Fasted In Xinjiang During Ramzan and Have Also Prayed At The Mosque in Kashgar.China Being Communist Theoretically Rejects Religious Activity But As Long As Your Not Challenging The Political Authority and Not Creating A Law and Order Situation They Tend To Look The Other Way



Fact of The Matter is Islam Is The Most Popular Religion Amongst Chinese Youth

http://www.ibtimes.com/religion-chi...most-popular-among-followers-under-30-1998282
it is the most popular religion amongst ethinic minorities- mostly in the Northwest, Ningxia and Yunnan. The vast majority of China's 92% Han chinese are Aetheist.

i wont go into why the majority Han chinese themselves do not largely practice islam, since doing so involves tons of sensitive issues that are out of page here. But i would say Islam has always been a tolerated religion in China from the past to present.

in fact, Islam's older name in China has been dignifyingly called 'Qingzhenjiao' literally 'The Pure and True religion'
 
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Why Indians are so concern about Chinese Muslim ? if anyone think any country is perfect than think again, the black sheep exists in every country and society .. if there is some harsh sentiments against Muslims in some Chinese People than this can't be brushed as Chinese Govt Official Position .. There are many in both India and West who hate Muslims and even call for Nuclear Strikes over Mecca and Madina or on every Muslim country, so does this mean its the Govt position ? ? If there is an All out war happening in China against a Particular religion people than world media must have picked it, its not Indian Occupied Kashmir where no International Media is allowed to Report
 
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Very discouraging news from China.

Keep in mind that few drops of water don't represent the ocean, don't let few Indians such as @Roybot to spoil Chinese -Muslim relation, these Indians are constipated the the CPEC, so to vent their frustration, they're willing to dig the some dirty stories.


When these Indian claim that 95% of all Hindu temples in Pakistan have been destroyed or converted since 1990, I just ignore them, I feel no pity nor sympathy for these people trying to stir up China-Pakistan-Muslim relation.

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/95-o...-or-converted-since-1990.348047/#post-6529129

Islamophobia in China and Pakistan’s vow of silence

Recently, in a country that is decidedly not France, a Muslim man has been sentenced to six years in prison for keeping a beard.

I daresay it’s time we have a polite talk about Islamophobia with our good neighbor in the north.

In the Muslim dominant region of Xinjiang, the 38-year-old man was handed the punishment by the Chinese court. In addition, his wife has been sentenced to two years of imprisonment for wearing an Islamic veil.

Ironically, this took place in Kashgar: the city romanticised in Iqbal’s poetry as one end of the unbreachable Muslim flank guarding the sacred ‘Haram’.

The couple was pronounced guilty of “picking quarrels and provoking trouble”, which is basically my job description as a blogger.

The charge is so absurdly vague and ambiguous; it may as well be Mandarin for “not liking one’s face”. Which is indeed what it sounds like, if one follows the trail of violent suppression of the Uighur populace through history, markedIslamophobia in China and Pakistan’s vow of silence with arbitrary arrests and baffling restrictions.

In July last year, the government forbade Xinjiang officials to fast in the month of Ramazan, and initiated a robust campaign discouraging native women from wearing veil. In Urmaqi, bus passengers were banned from carrying a wide range of common household items, including yoghurt.

The restrictions, each a flagrant assaulton the Uighur people’s cultural values, are justified by the most valuable excuse available to us in the post-9/11 universe: ‘security’.

These increasingly despotic measures are being adopted under the doctrine that counter-terrorism definitively trumps individual liberty, although I’m personally having a hard time figuring out how to weaponise yoghurt and facial hair.


I’d reach out and ask the exceptionally inventive Muslims of Uighur, had the Chinese government not dismantled the internet in that region almost to its entirety.

One may be forgiven for asking at this point, if there is a giant portrait of Mao Zedong hanging reverently somewhere in the upper offices of Pakistan Telecommunication Authority (PTA).

These ‘whimsical’ freedom violations barely make up the prologue of a book on Chinese aggression against the Muslims of Xinjiang.

Between 1964 and 1996, China conducted more than 40 poorly-controlled, nuclear tests in Xinjiang. An expert who studied radiation effects from tests by the US, France, and former Soviet Union, calculated that as many as 194,000 people may have died from acute radiation poisoning, among a whopping 1.2 million people who received doses high enough to induce cancer and gross fetal abnormalities.

These are the “conservative estimates” of the damage caused in three decades.

If this form of aggression appears too indirect and impersonal, it should be viewed in context of decades of arbitrary arrests, executions and reports of heinous torture.

The government has been accused of promoting a Hans mass migration to Xinjiang to dilute the natives’ proportion from 90 per cent of the population in 1949, to almost 45 per cent today.

The regime now “manufactures consent” (weirdly, a Chomskian term usually reserved for Western imperialists) of its people for these extreme measures against the Muslims of Xinjiang, by citing ‘Islamic terrorism’ against the Hans in the province.

Also read: Breaking up with China?

Ultimately, the Chinese government’s greatest feat is to have its President sit beamingly in the same room as the Prime Minister of the Islamic Republic of Pakistan, without ‘Uighur’ creeping into conversation.

More impressive still, is the capacity of the Pakistani political leaders, touting Islamic unity and decrying the oppression of Muslims wherever they may be, to ignore the Islamophobia raging in its most favoured state.

But that’s realpolitik. I’m more curious about how this information would be processed by an average Pakistani social media user, incensed by the anti-Muslim bigotry across Europe.

At the end, I suppose I’m just hoping we’d all get to hear our Prime Minister’s next passionate speech on Sino-Pak friendship over the sound of the invisible elephant blaring in the room.

Indians are not fit to rule, they are fit to be ruled. Was Winston Churchill right about India? Indians just like to pick garbage from a trash and try to make like they're relevant, if we want to dig the dirty stories regarding India, we can flooded Indian's brain with that...and how about start with this.

Muslim woman was allegedly forced to remove her headscarf at an event attended by PM MODI
https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/musl...scarf-at-an-event-attended-by-pm-modi.482335/

So is Modi scare of Muslim women, if he's so afraid to has the same fate as Mahatma Gandhi, than he better off to resign, Indian talk about Islamophobia:lol:
 
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Having talked with Chinese friends face to face, there are a few recurring themes for the root cause of their concerns:

1. If you type 'Islam killing' on Google, you find literally thousands of pages alleging Islam supports all kinds of violence. In the words of a Chinese friend "Just type 'Islam killing' on Google and see what comes up." And they don't find any authentic page which comprehensively disproves the false allegations.

2. The concept of an interminable Jihad that goes on until the flag of Islam is solidly planted upon all of Earth is highly disconcerting to them. My friend couldn't believe when I affirmed this. She had to reconfirm just to be sure. When I said Islam is the only system that guarantees fairness for all, and it is the moral duty of Muslims to extend the benefits of this justice everywhere she was speechless. Then I explained that even before war Islam gives the option to become a protectorate by paying a tax and this means if an enemy attacks Muslim blood gets spent first before non-Muslim blood she was just at a loss of words. She couldn't come up with any argument after that.

The hate is basically based on misinformation and us Muslims are to be blamed for leaving people in the dark about our true religion.

Well that's the thing my friend, people are losing interest in religion. And that concept of interminable jihad has to come to an end. If Muslims feel they have a better alternative ideology/system than others, there need to be tangible results on the ground. And right now, all people see is the mess overseas. It's clearly not a better system than democracy at the moment. There is a whole plethora of issues that Muslims themselves can't even solve. And they won't anytime soon because it requires theological debate. The only advantage you can say is the social atmosphere is more friendly/easier to blend into for the average person. Other than that, it has many problems.

And that's not intended to demean Muslims , Muslims will eventually get out of the slump they are in.
this is what one of your guys said:

"The concept of an interminable Jihad that goes on until the flag of Islam is solidly planted upon all of Earth is highly disconcerting to them. My friend couldn't believe when I affirmed this. She had to reconfirm just to be sure. When I said Islam is the only system that guarantees fairness for all, and it is the moral duty of Muslims to extend the benefits of this justice everywhere she was speechless. Then I explained that even before war Islam gives the option to become a protectorate by paying a tax and this means... "

an open admission of what everyone knows anyway but most Islamists choose to taqiyya instead because the truth disgusts non muslims.

No offense but you're not the right person for change. What you're indulging in is nothing less than demeaning people. We don't need people like you, you end making conservatives remain conservative or push others to conservatism. You also don't know what Taqiyya is, so please spare us your voice when it comes to these topics.
 
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The Old trick of Indians

That's why I look down on these peoples, I wish China to divert all water from Tibet and Monsoon and leave nothing for India.

What an irony.
On one hand chinese government protects terrorist by using veto power in UN Security Council and on the other hand Chinese people are scared of innocent Muslims.

We protect innocent people portrayed as terrorist by Indians, it's that our problem?:pop:
 
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China's Communist Party government has hardened its position against Islam and muslim population. Now further sinicizing, whatever that implies!

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/storie...ME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT&CTIME=2017-03-12-06-48-20

CHINESE COMMUNIST PARTY OFFICIALS HARDEN RHETORIC ON ISLAM

BEIJING (AP) -- China's ruling Communist Party is hardening its rhetoric about Islam, with top officials making repeated warnings this past week about the specter of global religious extremism seeping into the country.

Shaerheti Ahan, a top political and legal affairs party official in Xinjiang, became the latest official from a predominantly Muslim region to warn political leaders gathered in Beijing about China becoming destabilized by the "international anti-terror situation."

Over the past year, President Xi Jinping has directed the party to "Sinicize" the country's ethnic and religious minorities, while regional leaders in Xinjiang, home to the Uighur (WEE-gur) ethnic minority, have ramped up policing amid an uptick in violence.

The government's hardening rhetoric has coincided with new security measures that activists say exacerbate a cycle of repression, radicalization and violence.

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I could be the only Chinese as a bad guy here. For I'm gonna say what I really think about this article.
The Han Chinese girl converted to Islam. I'm not going to judge her even though I don't feel glad cause she will definitely not marry any Han man in future because of her religion.

What makes me feel bad about the whole thing is. Was she trying to show off by posting her photo on the net with that scarf? If yes that's an offensive gesture for me cause as a Chinese we are very proud of our culture. Did she think about how other Chinese feel when she betrayed our culture and showed off around?

Muslims you should understand the anger of our folks. Let's switch the positions. What do you feel if a female Muslim converts to other religion and shows off in the public? Maybe you would behave in a worse manner.
 
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:nono: we understand your propaganda india. you are trying and trying and trying to create miss understanding with Iran and China.. as you have already created misunderstanding between Afghanistan and Pakistan.

Pakistan,Iran and china should expose the propaganda of U.S and India
 
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I could be the only Chinese as a bad guy here. For I'm gonna say what I really think about this article.
The Han Chinese girl converted to Islam. I'm not going to judge her even though I don't feel glad cause she will definitely not marry any Han man in future because of her religion.

What makes me feel bad about the whole thing is. Was she trying to show off by posting her photo on the net with that scarf? If yes that's an offensive gesture for me cause as a Chinese we are very proud of our culture. Did she think about how other Chinese feel when she betrayed our culture and showed off around?

Muslims you should understand the anger of our folks. Let's shift the positions. What do you feel if a female Muslim converts to other religion and shows off in the public? Maybe you would behave in a worse manner.

Well you entitle your opinion but personally I think some of us are just over-reacted, personally I don't really care as long as religion such as Buddhism, Islam or Christianity is not the element that split China nor spoil the relation between Chinese people...we're family and blood brother/sister.
 
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Well you entitle your opinion but personally I think some of us are just over-reacted, personally I don't really care as long as religion such as Buddhism, Islam or Christianity is not the element that split China nor spoil the relation between Chinese people...we're family and blood brother/sister.
Unfortunately it's not an easy thing as you thought. Once a Han convert to Islam, to some extent he or she will have to sever relationships with his/her former friends, relatives, even family. It's weird but very normal phenomenon that the newly converted Muslims tend to be more isolated from their once belonged to society.
 
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it is the most popular religion amongst ethinic minorities- mostly in the Northwest, Ningxia and Yunnan. The vast majority of China's 92% Han chinese are Aetheist.

i wont go into why the majority Han chinese themselves do not largely practice islam, since doing so involves tons of sensitive issues that are out of page here. But i would say Islam has always been a tolerated religion in China from the past to present.

in fact, Islam's older name in China has been dignifyingly called 'Qingzhenjiao' literally 'The Pure and True religion'

Dude My Point Is That Chinese Do Not Hate Islam And Are In Fact Pretty Acomodative of It

Thanx Man You Just Proved It Further:enjoy:
 
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