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What's up with some Afghanis hate against Pakistan and ISI?

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They hold Pakistan responsible for their condition and also believe that KPK is a part of Afghanistan.

They can hold anything, our Pathans outnumber, outpower, and will outlast them.

Ha gone are the days of living in past glory, now, right now, today, present it is us who are on top. And we dont really see them as a threat.
 
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The biggest fear of Punjabi dominated Pakistan is the emergence of Pashtun nationalism. If Afghanistan stabilizes, there is a good chance that Pashtuns on either side of Durrand line will focus their attention towards Pashtunistan and demand inclusion of Pashtun dominated areas of Pakistan into Afghanistan. So, its in the interests of Pakistan to keep Afghanistan weak and in perpetual instability.
 
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The biggest fear of Punjabi dominated Pakistan is the emergence of Pashtun nationalism. If Afghanistan stabilizes, there is a good chance that Pashtuns on either side of Durrand line will focus their attention towards Pashtunistan and demand inclusion of Pashtun dominated areas of Pakistan into Afghanistan. So, its in the interests of Pakistan to keep Afghanistan weak and in perpetual instability.
Keep your theories to your call centre job
 
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Punjabi's are our brothers and sisters............. now, about, those brain-farts you are suffering from, take some medication.... there are plenty good doctors on PDF........

The biggest fear of Punjabi dominated Pakistan is the emergence of Pashtun nationalism. If Afghanistan stabilizes, there is a good chance that Pashtuns on wither side of Durrand line will focus their attention towards Pashtunistan and demand inclusion of Pashtun dominated areas of Pakistan into Afghanistan. So, its in the interests of Pakistan to keep Afghanistan weak and in perpetual instability.
 
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The biggest fear of Punjabi dominated Pakistan is the emergence of Pashtun nationalism. If Afghanistan stabilizes, there is a good chance that Pashtuns on either side of Durrand line will focus their attention towards Pashtunistan and demand inclusion of Pashtun dominated areas of Pakistan into Afghanistan. So, its in the interests of Pakistan to keep Afghanistan weak and in perpetual instability.

Pashtun nationalism exists and it will continue to exist, Sindhi nationalism and Baloch nationalism also exist and will continue to exist in one form or the other.

Now whether sentiments of sub-nationalism within Pakistan can save india from getting nuked to ashes is an altogether different story ;)
 
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And who was Kushan and Huns and ghurids and ghaznavids and lodhis and khiljis and tughlaqs and Mughals all were Indian were they?.

I am a beef eater and eastern iranic language speaker but I am no Afghan, a khurrasani perhaps but an Afghan never.

Your stupidity has no limits so I let you relax in your tuxedo court.

You had better look up your history. And your geography.
 
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U chat shit, u call indians skinny and sub human meanin u chattin shit bout Indian tamils meaning I become involved which means I put u in ur place dickhead

dirty little coolie a where you come from about Scarborough pussy .go suck your mother with a straw nasty little pussyhole
 
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And who was Kushan and Huns and ghurids and ghaznavids and lodhis and khiljis and tughlaqs and Mughals all were Indian were they?.

What a tangle.

Your eastern Iranian language dates from antiquity, but it was the language of a fugitive people, driven from disaster to disaster, until at last, a mongrelised collection of ethnicity occupied some parts of southern Afghanistan.

The Kushans were a central Asian tribe driven out by the Hiung Nu, who then occupied the Ferghana Valley. This drove out the previous occupants, the Sakas, or Scythians, who then descended on the cities of Bactria, centred around Balkh, which were Greek cities, peopled by the remnants of the Alexandrine invasion and the wars of the Diadochi. The Kushan language was an Indo-European language of the Centum division, not the Satam division.

The Scythians, whom you forgot to mention, or perhaps never knew about, first occupied Bactria, or Balkh, and then, in the second phase, decades later, when the Yueh-chi or Kushans attacked again, descended into Arachosia, some part of which was renamed Sakasthan after them; currently it is known as Seistan. They were tribesmen and nomads who spoke an east Iranian dialect. This is where the east Iranian dialect connection began and ended, for the time being.

They, and allied tribes known as the Pahlavas, ruled southern Afghanistan for a brief period, until the Kushan Empire overwhelmed all local resistance.

The Huns, so-called, were not Attila's Huns, but a completely different tribe known as the Ephthalites, probably of mixed ethnicity, including Scythian and Iranian, and attacked and over-ran parts of the Kushan Empire, including their holdings in Afghanistan. It is thought that they were a mixture of Sogdian (one of the Saka provinces under the Achaemenids) with two or three or more other tribes, including proto-Turkish tribes. Turk + Saka, more or less.
  1. Persians, under the Achaemenid Empire;
  2. Greeks and Macedonians, under the Alexandrine Empire;
  3. Greeks under the Diadochi, in this case, under Seleukos Nikator;
  4. Greeks from the cities of the north;
  5. Scythians, or Saka, later the Saka-Pahlava from Ferghana, later Balkh, later Seistan;
  6. Kushan from Takla Makan, then Ferghana, then the whole of north-west India and Afghanistan;
  7. Ephthalites;
These were the peoples and kingdoms and empires who conquered Afghanistan and ruled without local resistance, none at all, during the period 580 BC to 552 AD. The Ephthalites gave their name, in altered form, to the Abdali, so now you know when you can start bragging: after 552 AD, before that, you were cannon fodder, in a manner of speaking, since one never knows, you may start arguing that there was no cannon then.

You mentioned Ghurids, and Ghaznavids, and Lodhis, Khiljis, Tughlaqs and Mughals. Probably in an attempt to capture the flavour of the successive dynasties that ruled Afghanistan, and then moved into north India at the turn of the millennium. Ghurids and Ghaznavids were dynasties, not people; Khiljis were hybrids with a lot of Turkic blood, and so were Tughlaqs. Lodhis were Pushto, the Mughals were Persianised Turks, who called themselves Mongol to gain the prestige of the Mongols by association; this was a conceit begun by Timur.

What of them? What was common to them, or what was their common link to you? Since you disclaim the brotherhood of Islam. That was the only link, and hardly a link, considering the constant warfare between each and every faction.

I am a beef eater and eastern iranic language speaker but I am no Afghan, a khurrasani perhaps but an Afghan never.

Your stupidity has no limits so I let you relax in your tuxedo court.

They were greater warriors and adventurers than anybody else, so that line of yours sounds singularly unconvincing.

Pashtun nationalism exists and it will continue to exist, Sindhi nationalism and Baloch nationalism also exist and will continue to exist in one form or the other.

Now whether sentiments of sub-nationalism within Pakistan can save india from getting nuked to ashes is an altogether different story ;)

Very true.

Still not certain either way.

We must take refuge in some certainties, therefore. These are easy to pick out. These are all of them concerning Pakistan, not one concerning India. All concern the sub-national feelings of Pakistan.

Good luck with your efforts.
 
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All concern the sub-national feelings of Pakistan.

Good luck with your efforts.

lol .. Sikhs wanting Khalistan is also sub-national feeling of Pakistan
Kashmirs wanting to break away from india is also sub-national feeling of Pakistan.

funny indians

also tell me one thing , indians profess "indianness" over everything else , religion caste creed , and they claim that Pakistanis too were/are indians , yet the rejection of this supposed "indianness" was such that Pakistan came into being on 1947 , how does your theory of 'all concern the subnational feeling of Pakistan" stack up against the broader rejection of the supposed "indianness" that eventually led to the making of Pakistan

whats to say that this rejection of this supposed rather forced "indianess" wont happen again ? to the same extent as it happened before and the india of today will not further break up like the proclaimed "india" of yesterday broke up?
 
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The biggest fear of Punjabi dominated Pakistan is the emergence of Pashtun nationalism. If Afghanistan stabilizes, there is a good chance that Pashtuns on either side of Durrand line will focus their attention towards Pashtunistan and demand inclusion of Pashtun dominated areas of Pakistan into Afghanistan. So, its in the interests of Pakistan to keep Afghanistan weak and in perpetual instability.

Your Bharat verma clown pot jokes & f@rts make no sense...try better next time.

Those days are long gone. Today Pushtuns are spreading all over Pakistan...be it Karachi, Rawalpindi, Quetta, Lahore or Islamabad...especially Karachi & Rawalpindi have heavy population of ethnic Pushtuns. Karachi is the largest Pushtun city in the world not Peshawar, Kabul, Jalalabad, Quetta, etc.

I guess Pushtuns will annex Eastern Afghanistan in Pakistan.
 
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The biggest fear of Punjabi dominated Pakistan is the emergence of Pashtun nationalism. If Afghanistan stabilizes, there is a good chance that Pashtuns on either side of Durrand line will focus their attention towards Pashtunistan and demand inclusion of Pashtun dominated areas of Pakistan into Afghanistan. So, its in the interests of Pakistan to keep Afghanistan weak and in perpetual instability.

Funny how you ignore the actual Pakhtuns on this thread. Your posts are fantasies.
 
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lol .. Sikhs wanting Khalistan is also sub-national feeling of Pakistan
Kashmirs wanting to break away from india is also sub-national feeling of Pakistan.

funny indians

also tell me one thing , indians profess "indianness" over everything else , religion caste creed , and they claim that Pakistanis too were/are indians , yet the rejection of this supposed "indianness" was such that Pakistan came into being on 1947 , how does your theory of 'all concern the subnational feeling of Pakistan" stack up against the broader rejection of the supposed "indianness" that eventually led to the making of Pakistan

whats to say that this rejection of this supposed rather forced "indianess" wont happen again ? to the same extent as it happened before and the india of today will not further break up like the proclaimed "india" of yesterday broke up?

Umm, you tell me one thing, who taught you history? It was not the rejection of the "supposed" Indian-ness that led to Pakistan coming into being in 1947, but the insecurity that led to a demand that there should be parity in electoral representation between Muslims and Hindus. There was not much left to be done after that demand was made. Jinnah's inspired and truly innovative idea of three homelands was at the end a veneer of civilisation over this atavistic and fearful reaction.

It is still the self-willed separation out of the north-western states, and nothing to do with Indian rejection of supposed Indian-ness.

There is nothing to say that the India of today will not take on new form in the years to come. There have been massive internal adjustments, some minor external ones, so, yes, the shape of India may change. Now, consider the fact that a strong and stable, economically growing and militarily powerful state abuts a weak and unstable, economically stagnating and militarily stressed state, which do you think will survive?
 
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