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Donald Trump’s administration might appear to be in domestic disarray and still lacking a coherent Asia strategy, it has been quite active on the Asia front , This week is a case in point as Trump kicked off an active round of Asian summitry. He met with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi on June 26, and new South Korean President Moon Jae-in’s visit is set for June 29-30 (See: “Trump’s Big Asia Summit Month”).

With the Trump-Modi summit concluding on Monday, what did the two sides achieve on the defense and security side, and what might we expect next in this realm of the bilateral relationship?
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As I indicated in a preview of the Trump-Modi summit, one of the closely-watched items on the defense side was the operationalization of India’s newly-earned status as a “major defense partner” through sales of defense equipment and technology.

With New Delhi getting that designation, which gives it access to U.S. defense technology at effectively the same level as U.S. allies, toward the end of U.S. President Barack Obama’s second term, observers were looking to see if any actual progress would be made on this score. There have been ongoing delays on this front and officials had been dampening expectations even before the summit.

As expected, the inroads made on defense were fairly modest though still notable, even though the discussions centered around wider cooperation. In particular, the joint statement made reference to the reports that Washington had offered New Delhi 22 Sea Guardian Unmanned Aerial Systems or drones for over $2 billion, which was a deal that both sides have been negotiating for a while now amid some difficulties. Separately, during Modi’s visit, there was also congressional notification of a possible foreign military sale to India for C-17 transport aircraft at an estimated cost of $366.2 million.

To be sure, this is just a fraction of the range of defense equipment that both sides are mulling, the list of which also includes attack helicopters, maritime patrol aircraft, and fighter jets. And the fact that India has still not approved a key foundational defense agreement, initially called the Communications and Information Security Memorandum of Agreement (CISMOA), has also affected the extent of progress both sides can make on this front.

But the fact that some transfers did occur from the U.S. side was an important step in actually putting some substance behind the major defense partner designation India had received. One thing to watch will be if we see more of such transfers in the future.

Maritime security was also a highlight during the summit meeting. Both sides made reference to the Malabar Exercises, which will commence next month. As I have noted before, in the two decades since its inception, Malabar has gone from a U.S.-India drill to an emerging platform for Indo-Pacific cooperation, even though its expansion has been progressing slower than some in Washington would like. Japan is now permanently included but Australia is still left out (See: “Malabar Exercises: An Emerging Platform for Indo-Pacific Cooperation?”). As we move past this round of Malabar into next year, the persistent issue of expansion will likely continue to be a conversation topic.

Both sides also said that they would enhance collaboration on maritime domain awareness by expanding the implementation of their “white shipping” data sharing arrangement. Though often overlooked, such agreements are important because information on the location of non-military, commercial vessels can help detect their potential use by nefarious actors. And as Joshua White, who previously worked on South Asian Affairs at the Obama White House noted on Twitter following the summit, there is “lots more” both sides can look to accomplish in this field moving forward.

Th two countries also addressed broader defense issues that were of importance to them. Unsurprisingly, terrorism featured prominently. Securing the homeland is a key priority both within Trump’s “America First” vision (amid continued concerns over Islamic State) as well as within Indian foreign policy, with cross-border attacks from Pakistan and concerns about Afghanistan. Apart from the fact that terrorism received its own section in the joint statement, with four paragraphs devoted to it, the substance was also notable.

For instance, the joint statement not only notes Indian appreciation for U.S. designation of the Hizb-ul-Mujahideen leader as a Specially Designated Global Terrorist, but notes the formation of a new consultation mechanism on domestic and international terrorist designations listing proposals more broadly to discuss this moving forward. This is a promising example of collaboration by the two sides in this area apart from other lines of effort already ongoing, including intelligence-sharing and operational-level cooperation.

The joint statement is also quite tough on Pakistan. Washington’s acceptance of strong language in the paragraph referring to Islamabad, including its culpability in allowing its territory to be used as a launching pad for cross-border attacks against India, is telling in terms of where the Trump administration is on this issue with respect to the two South Asian giants, even if these realities have long been quite clear to both sides.

That said, it is also important to keep in mind that the Trump administration’s broader strategy for the Middle East still has not really taken shape beyond occasional kinetic actions as well as proposals for troop increases. Despite the broad alignment of interests articulated by both sides publicly – including increasing collaboration with Middle Eastern partners in accord with New Delhi’s “Think West” policy – Indian uncertainties on this front are likely to remain with respect to the specifics of the administration’s policies and things could get heated down the line.

North Korea also featured much more prominently than it has before. That too was to be expected given how much the administration has prioritized it thus far as well as the centrality of the issue in its diplomatic engagements. U.S. Defense Secretary Jim Mattis told Congress earlier this month that Pyongyang was the “most urgent” threat to U.S. national security. Accordingly, the issue has been a highlight in other interactions with Asian state where it typically would not have been, including the Special U.S.-ASEAN Foreign Ministers’ Meeting (See: “What Was The First Special US-ASEAN Meeting Under Trump Really About?”).

In his remarks with Modi at the Rose Garden, Trump directly thanked New Delhi for joining Washington in applying new sanctions against the North Korean regime. Last month, India, which has been a key trading partner for Pyongyang, suspended most of those links, bringing it into line with United Nations sanctions as the Trump administration has been pushing U.S. allies and partners to do (with varying degrees of success).

Despite the alignment between Washington and New Delhi on North Korea thus far, it is worth noting that it is still early days in the Trump administration’s “maximum pressure” strategy, and many pieces of the puzzle still remain quite uncertain, including U.S.-China relations and the direction of South Korean foreign policy under the new government.

Lastly, China was also a topic of conversation. Though the joint statement unsurprisingly makes no direct mention of Beijing, the very structure of the joint statement, which sets out three principles – freedom of navigation, overflight, and commerce; the peaceful and lawful resolution of disputes; and bolstering regional economic connectivity keeping in mind transparency, responsibility, sovereignty, territorial integrity, rule of law, and the environment – is centered around a vision that is quite distinct from Beijing’s practices today, whether it be in the South China Sea or with its Belt and Road Initiative (See: “The Real Trouble With China’s Belt and Road”).

That is a comforting, if heavily caveated reminder that even though there may still be differences in Washington and New Delhi in terms of how they specifically deal with Beijing’s rise – ones that could exacerbate should U.S.-China relations worsen further down the line during the Trump presidency – they do share a common positive view of what Asia should look like that they can try to advance in concert with other like-minded states.

To be sure, there was much more that both sides talked about apart from the defense side. But the security realm unsurprisingly featured quite prominently in the Trump-Modi meeting, and it will be interesting to see what kind of progress both sides can make after their summit.

https://www.asiadefence.com/whats-next-for-us-india-defense-ties-under-trump-and-modi/
 
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Thing is, Donald Trump is a Businessman . Modi is feeling Triumphant today as Donald Trump "Endorsed" his stance on CPEC and declared Kashmiri freedom Fighter Group as International terrorist, but in business there is a price to be paid, with profit.
It is yet to be seen what and what demands from USA , India will have to fulfill .
The last time India felt the same way was when they stopped sales of F-16 jets to Pakistan. But now the US company who lost money because India stopped their sales is making India to build an F-16 factory in India and buy F-16s when they don't need or want F-16s and have no experience with the jet.
Likewise in coming days we will see more and more American weapons being dumped on India at overly expensive prices as a payback for Donald Trump for "Endorsing" certain Indian statements and policies.
 
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Thing is, Donald Trump is a Businessman

Modi comes from a State & community that thinks , eats business all the time.


is making India to build an F-16 factory in India and buy F-16s when they don't need or want F-16s and have no experience with the jet.

Its a Business venture between two companies - Indian & US not GOI money. As far as the jet is concerned we need to replace the MIG 21s & with regard to experience Indian pilots have no experience on the french aircraft too.

Kalaikunda hosted ( still does ?) F 16s
 
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Thing is, Donald Trump is a Businessman . Modi is feeling Triumphant today as Donald Trump "Endorsed" his stance on CPEC and declared Kashmiri freedom Fighter Group as International terrorist, but in business there is a price to be paid, with profit.
It is yet to be seen what and what demands from USA , India will have to fulfill .
The last time India felt the same way was when they stopped sales of F-16 jets to Pakistan. But now the US company who lost money because India stopped their sales is making India to build an F-16 factory in India and buy F-16s when they don't need or want F-16s and have no experience with the jet.
Likewise in coming days we will see more and more American weapons being dumped on India at overly expensive prices as a payback for Donald Trump for "Endorsing" certain Indian statements and policies.

No offence but your assertions are quite pedestrian and hollow.

Things are not as simple as you are subscribing to. I would suggest you not read too much of kids commenting against India here.

I would recommend you to read 'Engaging India: Diplomacy, Democracy and the Bomb' by S.Talbott. It is a good read.
 
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Thing is, Donald Trump is a Businessman . Modi is feeling Triumphant today as Donald Trump "Endorsed" his stance on CPEC and declared Kashmiri freedom Fighter Group as International terrorist, but in business there is a price to be paid, with profit.
It is yet to be seen what and what demands from USA , India will have to fulfill .
The last time India felt the same way was when they stopped sales of F-16 jets to Pakistan. But now the US company who lost money because India stopped their sales is making India to build an F-16 factory in India and buy F-16s when they don't need or want F-16s and have no experience with the jet.
Likewise in coming days we will see more and more American weapons being dumped on India at overly expensive prices as a payback for Donald Trump for "Endorsing" certain Indian statements and policies.
oh bhai , Gujarati se barda business man nahi hota , trump bacha hai modi saab ka , waqut ane pe samaj me aajayegi apko ,bye for now
 
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President Trump said Monday he looked forward to continuing a relationship with India where the leaders would work together “to create jobs in our countries, to grow our economies and to create a trading relationship that is fair and reciprocal.”

http://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...-trade-economic-growth-take-center-stage.html

Lolz already Uncle SAM has demanded to do more . Americans are the best business man in the world admire her business sense , Modi is like a child same goes for many politicians of south Asia where education is poor over all .

Some more
Trump was also warm but made clear he sees a need for more balance in the U.S.-India trade relationship in keeping with his campaign promise to expand American exports and create more jobs at home. Last year the U.S. trade deficit with India neared $31 billion.

Trump said he would like a trading relationship that is "fair and reciprocal."

"It is important that barriers be removed to the export of U.S. goods into your markets and that we reduce our trade deficit with your country," he said.

Its funny in Pakistan hate India will loose many trade benefits unlike Obama Trump is made in US man . For a mere statement the answer came from none other CHinese and Russians .

https://www.facebook.com/urdupoint.network/?ref=br_rs
https://timesofislamabad.com/pakistan-russia-political-ties-strengthened/2017/06/28/
 
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President Trump said Monday he looked forward to continuing a relationship with India where the leaders would work together “to create jobs in our countries, to grow our economies and to create a trading relationship that is fair and reciprocal.”

http://www.foxbusiness.com/politics...-trade-economic-growth-take-center-stage.html

Lolz already Uncle SAM has demanded to do more . Americans are the best business man in the world admire her business sense , Modi is like a child same goes for many politicians of south Asia where education is poor over all .

Some more
Trump was also warm but made clear he sees a need for more balance in the U.S.-India trade relationship in keeping with his campaign promise to expand American exports and create more jobs at home. Last year the U.S. trade deficit with India neared $31 billion.

Trump said he would like a trading relationship that is "fair and reciprocal."

"It is important that barriers be removed to the export of U.S. goods into your markets and that we reduce our trade deficit with your country," he said.

Its funny in Pakistan hate India will loose many trade benefits unlike Obama Trump is made in US man . For a mere statement the answer came from none other CHinese and Russians .

https://www.facebook.com/urdupoint.network/?ref=br_rs
https://timesofislamabad.com/pakistan-russia-political-ties-strengthened/2017/06/28/

US Vice President Mike Pence Wants To Visit SpiceJet Office In India


US Vice President Mike Pence has expressed his desire to visit budget carrier SpiceJet's office on his trip to India in a meeting with the airline's chief Ajay Singh.

The Indian no-frills airline was lauded by US President Donald Trump for an order of 100 new planes with American aircraft manufacturer Boeing and the massive jobs this will create in the country.


Pence had met Mr Singh yesterday on the sidelines of the annual gala of the US-India Business Council (USIBC).

Thanking SpiceJet CEO for thousands of high value jobs the airline's order would create in the US, Pence said its deal with Boeing was extensively discussed in the meeting between Prime Minister Narendra Modi and Trump, according to the airline's spokesperson.

"Pence informed Singh that he was invited by the PM to visit India which he has accepted. The VP also expressed a desire to visit the SpiceJet office during his India visit," the spokesperson added.

SpiceJet had announced an order of 100 Boeing planes worth USD 22 billion in January. The order is expected to create 1.32 lakh high-skilled jobs in the US.


Last month, the airline also signed an initial pact for 40 Boeing 737 MAX planes. This includes conversion of 20 737 MAX 8 airplanes from its existing order of 737 MAX 10s.

Mr Singh also gifted a SpiceJet aircraft model to Pence for President Trump.

While addressing the USIBC Pence said, "I know that American companies are going to continue to give India's aviation industry the wings it needs to soar. And let me just take the opportunity, as the President did yesterday, to say thank you to SpiceJet for investing and believing in American workers and American businesses."

He also thanked Indian businesses "for your investment in our nation's future."

In an interview with PTI, Mr Singh said India should be looked upon as not only a strategic partner in a military context, and in the context of two countries together fighting terrorism, but also as a strategic partner that helps create jobs in the US.

He also lamented that manufacturing of commercial planes in India "has not been given a thought to, at the moment".
 
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Trump was also warm but made clear he sees a need for more balance in the U.S.-India trade relationship in keeping with his campaign promise to expand American exports and create more jobs at home. Last year the U.S. trade deficit with India neared $31 billion.
and you take his stmt seriously? He was the same person who said china is a currency manipulator, ranted about work visas..etc but then wat happened? stmts are good for posturing but no good for practical purpose.
 
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and you take his stmt seriously? He was the same person who said china is a currency manipulator, ranted about work visas..etc but then wat happened? stmts are good for posturing but no good for practical purpose.
Hi I take Trump very seriously infact everyone in the world takes him seriously e.g Thaad deployment in South Korea and Japan allows Trump to take money from Allies , Nato members were threatened to pay up for their share , CNN is back foot the most prestigious organization in cable news , He will build a wall better be solar one , You cant take this guy as non sense , under his tenure American jobs are slowly but surely getting back to US ,Indians H1 requests are freeze , the man is of his words so far ,US ripped India with 2 Billion $ drones for 22 examples . With China he is cautious because Chinese have 2 Trillions $ treasuries still he manages to say what ever he wants

The Indian no-frills airline was lauded by US President Donald Trump for an order of 100 new planes with American aircraft manufacturer Boeing and the massive jobs this will create in the country.
That sums it up its pure business
SpiceJet had announced an order of 100 Boeing planes worth USD 22 billion in January. The order is expected to create 1.32 lakh high-skilled jobs in the US.


Last month, the airline also signed an initial pact for 40 Boeing 737 MAX planes. This includes conversion of 20 737 MAX 8 airplanes from its existing order of 737 MAX 10s.
You are making an easy on many readers its a fact US is doing business and thats it .
In an interview with PTI, Mr Singh said India should be looked upon as not only a strategic partner in a military context, and in the context of two countries together fighting terrorism, but also as a strategic partner that helps create jobs in the US.
It only says US jobs and US business ,
 
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That sums it up its pure business

You are making an easy on many readers its a fact US is doing business and thats it .

It only says US jobs and US business ,

I don't know how you perceive the notion 'Bussiness'. I hope you have read the definition of word 'Bussiness'.

We are giving them business to shine our own bussiness.

Glance through current discourse Pakistan channels are having today. All of them have identified Pakistan's lack of Business (Business clout) and poor economy that US and others are not ready to pay heed to Pakistan's interests.


Dear @volatile, above picture posted by this clown is big fallacy.

Any educated Pakistani must not fall for this propaganda. Nation like India is governed by rule of law where independent agencies like CAG and others audit the Government spending with eagle eye. Last Government was kicked out of Power just because of this one agency.

Private enterprise we all know does its own study (viability, feasibility, profit etc.) before investing.
 
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Really you are probably the worst poster i came across ,defense purchases didn't add any value specially the ones which are off the shelf .
We are giving them business to shine our own bussiness.

I don't know how you perceive the notion 'Bussiness'. I hope you have read the definition of word 'Bussiness'.
Pretty much understand the business term i am not a graduate of Cambridge University Ranchi

Any educated Pakistani must not fall for this propaganda. Nation like India is governed by rule of law where independent agencies like CAG and others audit the Government spending with eagle eye. Last Government was kicked out of Power just because of this one agency.
Sir I beg to differ from you ,currently only rule of law in India is Hindutva all minorities even lower casts are supressed to a level where they started celebrating victories of so called Axis of Evil in India
 
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Really you are probably the worst poster i came across ,defense purchases didn't add any value specially the ones which are off the shelf .

When You quoted me, the assertion was about "Business" that private Indian company is doing with USA. You failed to understand the basic tenant of Business that it is not one way dolling out the money. Both parties profit from the trade the clout comes along.

Now you have shifted the Goal Post.

By your logic 90% of Pakistan's defence procurement has added no value to Pakistan.

I was about to give you more elaborate answer how technological edge brings stability that helps you create a conducive environment for Business and then diplomatic clout follows.

But then I read the following.

Currently only rule of law in India is Hindutva all minorities even lower casts are supressed to a level where they started celebrating victories of so called Axis of Evil in India

Dear Sir, I have better things to in Life. I therefore declare you winner of this debate.

Kind Regards
 
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oh bhai , Gujarati se barda business man nahi hota , trump bacha hai modi saab ka , waqut ane pe samaj me aajayegi apko ,bye for now
But Gujarat still is Gujarat,if they are such good businessmen,why Gujarat didn't become another Chicago or last Vegas ?
 
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have no experience with the jet.
the royal singapore air force's f-16s were supposed to be using India's air bases for exercises due to space constraints in singapore. Let me find that on f-16.net site..

The RSAF have been plagued with a shortage of airspace to conduct training and have been visiting Gwalior AB for regular joint bilateral exercises called ‘Sindex’ with there Indian counterparts since October 2004. The deal mean the RSAF can now use Kalaikunda airbase and the nearby firing ranges to train its pilots on a long term basis.
http://www.f-16.net/f-16-news-article2564.html
 
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