Whats is FATA and is it Good for Pakistan?

[Mansoor A Qureshi]

Salam o alaikum dear all,
Dear friends there are few questions i would like to ask, What is FATA and is it good for Pakistan and Pakistanis, I am living in Peshawar the FATA areas are called "Ilaaka Ghair" When someone commits a crime he rans away to that so called area just because police and administration cannot reach him and then he hides himself in the afghanistan it is always a safe heaven for these kind of buggers, The FATA area is not paying for thier utility bills like they are not paying for the electricity consumption putting more and un bearable load on the normal subscriber anywhere in Pakistan, The Maliks in these FATA areas called them dual national Pakistanis/Afghanis at the very same time for thier own cause, mainly they are involve in sheltering smuglers doing smuggling, drug trafficing, illegal weapons, Why the govt can establish and control these areas and be always black mailed by these areas, can anyone put some more light on it.

Maybe jana jee can tell us more about it......


Waiting and warm regards

 

[Awesome]

It could be absorbed into NWFP if the tribals and the NWFP populace can agree to it.

 

[Spring Onion]

Salam o alaikum dear all,
Dear friends there are few questions i would like to ask, What is FATA and is it good for Pakistan and Pakistanis,
Maybe jana jee can tell us more about it......

Mansoor first of all if you are a Pakistani, A pakhtun or even live in Peshawar u must know the importacne of FATA but im smelling you are,nt Pakistani Anyway


1 As far as FATA is concerned its very much part of Pakistan.The situation istn that grim here as the foreign media is propogating.

2 Now coming towards not paying Power bills yes that is the problem but PESCO is doing its level best and in areas they had installed power meters, and getting tribesmen payed for the power consuming.

3 Smuggling is another menace in FATA which mainly took roots due to extreme poverty and lack of jobs which could be now rooted gradualy and slowly by inititaing development projects which the Musharraf government is rightly doing.

4 maliks ar lame ducks in the presence of Political Agent so they can be tammed

5 controling tribal agencies? that is being done at the moment.
When Pak Army entered Waziristan Agency for the first time in the history of Pakistan during Musharraf rule, they were being greeted by the tribesmen and i tell u i had been to that area and common people are very peace loving and they want develoment and in many areas they had thanked the Army for providing them necceasry basic eminities of life like drinking water.

Now by initiating uplift schemes in these tribal areas we can very much control the area.
Pray to Allah and lend your support to government in this regard.

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

What about Asim's suggestion of merging FATA with NWFP.

What are the implications?

 

[Spring Onion]

What about Asim's suggestion of merging FATA with NWFP.

Ray what he or you mean by that ??

FATA is a part of NWFP but the administrative powers are with the Center and all the uplift schemes are being implimented by the centre.However there some areas which are under provincial govt and are beign called PATA

If by merging FATA into NWFP u mean being totally controlled by the provincial government that its has some implications which will try to tell u bellow.

What are the implications?

NOw if FATA is being given in total control of provincial government it will have some grave problems in wake of stretagic importance.

You see due to multi-party political system its difficult that we get the government of the same party in the province as at the centre, Now with two different parties at two tired of the government it will be imposible to implement a uniform policy in the area.

It will make the provincial government more powerful giving it more room to blackmail the center.

there are many more which i would try to explain and get feedback from mmbers.

 

[Mansoor A Qureshi]

Mansoor first of all if you are a Pakistani, A pakhtun or even live in Peshawar u must know the importacne of FATA but im smelling you are,nt Pakistani Anyway

Jana Jee this time your nose has malfunctioned, I am well aware of the importance of the FATA, it is the the problems that made me write this and need to know more about it, but there must be no question or confusion about me that i am not a Pakistani, I am a Muslim first, then a Pakistani and then a Pakhtun or Peshawari, hope done to the confusion

My support will be always with my govt and president. But jana jee you admit the points that i made and a normal pakistani is effected by this i have many friends in FATA i already know they are friendly as well, i am just asking about the negetive things about it.

Do let me know from where you get this impression that i am not a Pakistani? The picture quite describes you the way you replied on this thread

Regards

 

[Spring Onion]

Do let me know from where you get this impression that i am not a Pakistani?

Mansoor being trouble affected area dosnt mean that we should throw our land away.

The picture quite describes you the way you replied on this thread

Regards

What u mean by this plz eleborate??

i think i had tried to describe the things in their right context.

I do believe the situation is not that bad as the media portary it anyway FATA is a part of Pakistan and Inshallah its going to remain the same.:flag: with defently improve status with our Army doing level best.

 

[sigatoka]

3 Smuggling is another menace in FATA which mainly took roots due to extreme poverty and lack of jobs which could be now rooted gradualy and slowly by inititaing development projects which the Musharraf government is rightly doing.

Smuggling is merely an attempt by the people to overcome the illogically and economically damaging high Tarriffs (tax on imports) that the Pak. govt. imposes in the name of "protecting" domestic industry by eye gouging the poor man in the street. Unfortunately smuggling manufactured and agricultural goods (excluding drugs) is illegal even if morally sound. (p.s. Pak. maintains one of the highest taxes on imports in the world worse than even India)

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Jana,

I asked the question because I read somewhere that Musharraf had announced that the provisions governing FATA was to be changed since they are archaic and not functioning well.

Sigatoka,

I am not too aware of economics, but I believe that the import taxes in Indian have come down drastically and that is why foreign goods are very common and though more expensive than Indian products, they are no longer astronomical as they were before.

In fact, when relatives return, no longer people look forward and then congregate even before the bags are unpacked for the little goodies that the relatives bring from abroad.

Some even buy these things at the nearest local mall and then take them home and distribute to the eager relatives!:disappointed:

 

[Spring Onion]

Jana,

I asked the question because I read somewhere that Musharraf had announced that the provisions governing FATA was to be changed since they are archaic and not functioning well.

Ray he was talking about doing away with political Agents and Maliks which was tried but they had to revert it to the previouse one.
It wasnt that FATA was being given under provincial government control

Some even buy these things at the nearest local mall and then take them home and distribute to the eager relatives!:disappointed:

same is the siatutaion here lol how fool we are

 

[Mansoor A Qureshi]

Mansoor being trouble affected area dosnt mean that we should throw our land away.

I do believe the situation is not that bad as the media portary it anyway FATA is a part of Pakistan and Inshallah its going to remain the same.:flag: with defently improve status with our Army doing level best.

Jana Jee, With due regards, i never said in my reply that i want or anyone wants, ALLAH forbid i can never ever think it about, no way we will ever throw the land and inshaALLAH we will defend every inch of our mother land, regarding the situation i know it is improving day by day, i was just asking about the negetive things happening there... nothing else
and that picture thing was nothing but was a bad joke from me just to cool things off

But where you get that impression from my reply that i am not a Pakistani, believe me i am offended by that.

Regards

 

[A.Rahman]

But where you get that impression from my reply that i am not a Pakistani, believe me i am offended by that.

someone owes someone an apology..... ..wink.

 

[Mansoor A Qureshi]

someone owes someone an apology..... ..wink.

Thank you Rahman

 

[sigatoka]

Jana,
Sigatoka,

I am not too aware of economics, but I believe that the import taxes in Indian have come down drastically and that is why foreign goods are very common and though more expensive than Indian products, they are no longer astronomical as they were before.

As long as the roads of India have Tata and that Ambassador, it shows that the import restrictions are crippling. India's avg. import tariff is i think in the range of 20-30% or something. But there is a worse problem, India has quotas (quantitative restrictions on amount of imports) which are even worse than tarriffs (import tax) because it is not flexible to changes in demand and govt. foregoes tax revenue.

Also India is worse than Pak. in FDI (too restrictive) because of the communists allies of congress (but BJP were no better either). The terrible effects of this can be seen in the quality of infrastructure and the fact that we dont see massive manufacturing in India by foreign firms like we do see in China. My point is that haivng flexible FDI laws can mitigate somewhat against high tariffs.

Your point is taken though that progress is taking place, but why is it so slow is the lament. China makes even good progress look lame.

p.s. do you still live in India?

 

[Tiki Tam Tam]

Tata, Ashoke Leyland are very good goods carriers and buses. The Ambassador Diesel is popular for city taxis and inter city taxis because it is roomier than foreign cars of it size with the added advantage that it can be repaired by even a roadside mechanic. Therefore, they will be seen for a very long time and do not in any way indicate the tarrif and taxes imposed.

One does not give up indigenous items of quality just because foreign make India manufactured vehicles are available.

I am not into economics and so I would not be able to anlayse the economic issues, but I hope someone who knows can do so.

I live in India.