There is No Power on Earth That can Undo Pakistan

[lightning F57]

Most of it is just propoganda. The economic and social condition of the median Muslim in India and Bangladesh is better than the median Muslim in Pakistan . I don't know what you mean by " Muslim power" but what good is it if people are struggling to meet their daily needs. Bangladesh, which was way behind West Pakistan in 1971, wisely chose to become a secular state and is today ahead of Pakistan in HDI indicators, whereas Pakistan is a failed state.

Islam is certainly not in any danger in India. The percentage of Muslims in the population has gone up from under 10% in 1950 to almost 15% today. Just compare that to what happened to the minority population of Pakistan. If partitioned India had four Muslim Presidents, imagine the political power the Muslims would have weilded in a united India where they would have had close to 40% of the population today. Anyway, it was probably for the best for India as we managed to avoid the hotbed of Islamic fundamentalism, but the big loser from the partition was Islamic power and the Muslims of the subcontinent. From being the rulers of the subcontinent, all the Muslims got was a moth-eaten West Pakistani wing. They lost even Kashmir and some of the Muslim districts of Punjab.

The economic argument is used quite allot but that is not a good barometer. Muslims in pak don't have their mosques burnt down, or the women attacked on streets for wearing a hijab, or women stopped from entering public buildings for wearing a hijab. They don't have people lynching them for selling cows or eating beef or do they have hate preachers calling for attacks against Muslims. You also don't get prime ministers butchering Muslims because of their religion, butchering tends to be for monetary and corruption purposes. There are countless examples how Muslims in Pak have their power and freedoms vs those in India which is not part of any propoganda narrative especially as many comes from non pak sources.

 

[Paji]

Why you're rants against Pakistan on PDF and we knows what is the condition of Indian Muslims in ENDIA

Please post in Urdu or Punjabi in the Roman script. Your English is unintelligible.

 

[White and Green with M/S]

Please post in Urdu or Punjabi in the Roman script. Your English is unintelligible.

Because you're stubborn didn't understand simple English you sanghi

Why you're in Pakistani political thread go to Indian defense section on PDF you egoistic troll

 

[Paji]

The economic argument is used quite allot but that is not a good barometer. Muslims in pak don't have their mosques burnt down, or the women attacked on streets for wearing a hijab, or women stopped from entering public buildings for wearing a hijab. They don't have people lynching them for selling cows or eating beef or do they have hate preachers calling for attacks against Muslims. You also don't get prime ministers butchering Muslims because of their religion, butchering tends to be for monetary and corruption purposes. There are countless examples how Muslims in Pak have their power and freedoms vs those in India which is not part of any propoganda narrative especially as many comes from non pak sources.

You can believe what you want, but the fact is that far more people have died in attacks on mosque in Pakistan than in India.

It is true that Muslims have died in religious riots in India. So have Hindus, Sikhs and Christians, but those are isolated incidents. If there was systematic persecution against Muslims, the Muslim population would have disappeared from India just like Hindus, Sikhs and other minorities have practically disappeared from Pakistan. Instead, it has gone up from under 10% to almost 15% since independence.

 

[Tornado23]

I didn't realise Pakistan was an English acronym. I thought it was an Urdu neologism meaning "land of the pure". Maybe I shouldn't be surprised because the daddy of Pakistan was British imperial interests. If the poor Bengalis had realised it earlier, they wouldn't have had to endure being a Pakistani colony for 25 years.

By the way, what does K stand for in the acronym ? Also, there seems to be no letter for Sindh and Balochistan. Those should be allowed to secede like East Bengal as well.

pakistan-is-an-acronym-the-word-translates-as

‘Pakistan’ is an acronym. The word translates as ‘land of the pure’- but that’s just a coincidence, because the country’s name is based on the Muslim territories of Northern India in the 1930s: (P)unjabi, (A)fghani, (K)ashmiri, (S)indhi, and Balochis(TAN), with an extra ‘I’ to make it easier to...

didyouknowfacts.com

 

[N.Siddiqui]

You can believe what you want, but the fact is that far more people have died in attacks on mosque in Pakistan than in India.

It is true that Muslims have died in religious riots in India. So have Hindus, Sikhs and Christians, but those are isolated incidents. If there was systematic persecution against Muslims, the Muslim population would have disappeared from India just like Hindus, Sikhs and other minorities have practically disappeared from Pakistan. Instead, it has gone up from under 10% to almost 15% since independence.

This is funny, fell to the Sanghi propaganda, or a Sanghi in closet.

No, Pakistan's non-Muslim population didn't decline from 23% to 3.7% as BJP claims

During the debate on the Citizenship Amendment Bill in Parliament, the BJP repeatedly claimed that population of religious minorities in Pakistan has declined from 23% in 1947 to 3.7% in 2011. Analysis of official data however shows this argument is faulty.

www.indiatoday.in

As per this census, the share of Muslims in Pakistan's overall population in 1951 was 85.80 per cent, while the share of non-Muslims was 14.20 per cent. (Pakistan here refers to East and West Pakistan taken together).

What is important to note in Census 1951 is that Pakistan's non-Muslim population wasn't evenly distributed.

In West Pakistan, the non-Muslim population was just 3.44 per cent, while in East Pakistan (today's Bangladesh) they had a significant share comprising 23.20 per cent of the population therein.

As per Census 1951, share of Muslims in Pakistan's overall population was 85.80%, while share of non-Muslims was 14.20%.

To understand the change in population of religious minorities in present-day Pakistan, we need to separately analyse the trends in West Pakistan and East Pakistan (now Bangladesh).

 

[xyxmt]

Most Pakistanis' opinion on 1971:

Good riddance. Bangladesh was never a part of Pakistan.

keep your Indian thinking to yourself
we do say good riddance to Hindustan though

 

[White and Green with M/S]

You can believe what you want, but the fact is that far more people have died in attacks on mosque in Pakistan than in India.

It is true that Muslims have died in religious riots in India. So have Hindus, Sikhs and Christians, but those are isolated incidents. If there was systematic persecution against Muslims, the Muslim population would have disappeared from India just like Hindus, Sikhs and other minorities have practically disappeared from Pakistan.

Because you're supporting/finance terrorism in Pakistan via Iran and Afghanistan

You're biggest mess/threat for the peace of the subcontinent

Jai terrorist hind

 

[Paji]

Why you're in Pakistani political thread go to Indian defense section on PDF you egoistic troll

The Pakistani political thread is far more entertaining. The Indian defense section on this forum is too boring since Pakistan is now massively outmatched conventionally.

 

[N.Siddiqui]

You can believe what you want, but the fact is that far more people have died in attacks on mosque in Pakistan than in India.

It is true that Muslims have died in religious riots in India. So have Hindus, Sikhs and Christians, but those are isolated incidents. If there was systematic persecution against Muslims, the Muslim population would have disappeared from India just like Hindus, Sikhs and other minorities have practically disappeared from Pakistan. Instead, it has gone up from under 10% to almost 15% since independence.

This...

Hindu population in Pakistan has grown at a faster pace than in India

Despite a new Bill giving sanctity to Hindu marriages being passed in 2017, Pakistan continues to be rattled by Hindus' conversion to Islam

www.business-standard.com

 

[Paji]

Because you're supporting/finance terrorism in Pakistan via Iran and Afghanistan

You're biggest mess/threat for the peace of the subcontinent

Jai terrorist hind

Iran and Afghanistan are both part of the ummah. In fact, the Afghan Taliban, which is now in power in Kabul, has been sponsored by the Pakistani state for years to get strategic depth against India. Why will these Islamic countries help India against Pakistan?

 

[lightning F57]

You can believe what you want, but the fact is that far more people have died in attacks on mosque in Pakistan than in India.

It is true that Muslims have died in religious riots in India. So have Hindus, Sikhs and Christians, but those are isolated incidents. If there was systematic persecution against Muslims, the Muslim population would have disappeared from India just like Hindus, Sikhs and other minorities have practically disappeared from Pakistan. Instead, it has gone up from under 10% to almost 15% since independence.

It's not about what I want to believe but the information which is out there for all to see. There has been terrorism in pak against mosques which has led to many deaths so I wouldn't be surprised if the number is higher vs India but people in pak can still practise their religion with freedoms given to them by the state, that is atleast something one can't criticise them on. India on other hand has politicians in power who were complicit in massacres of Muslims in gujrat. India has the highest islamaphobia internet posting in the world.

 

[Paji]

India on other hand has politicians in power who were complicit in massacres of Muslims in gujrat.

What are the names of these politicians? Modi and Amit Shah were both tried when Congress governments which were intent on sending them to prison were in power and both got clean chits.

It is a fact that there are only a handful of Hindus and Sikhs left in Pakistan and most of them live in pitiable conditions. Muslims, on the other hand, are completely free to practice their religion in India. Four Muslims have been Indian President. One has been an Air Force Chief and several have been three star generals. How many Hindu or Sikh Presidents or generals has Pakistan had ?

 

[lightning F57]

What are the names of these politicians? Modi and Amit Shah were both tried when Congress governments which were intent on sending them to prison were in power and both got clean chits.

It is a fact that there are only a handful of Hindus and Sikhs left in Pakistan and most of them live in pitiable conditions. Muslims, on the other hand, are completely free to practice their religion in India. Four Muslims have been Indian President. One has been an Air Force Chief and several have been three star generals. How many Hindu or Sikh Presidents or generals has Pakistan had ?

Your argument was about a separate Muslim state having its power divided and being weaker vs India having all its Muslims. I'm not going to go off on tangent now talking about minorities in pak. As I said to you, Muslims in pak or bangladesh are more powerful than in India as they can freely practise their faith and not be persecuted as they are in India.

Modi and Co getting clean chits is laughable that's why they banned the bbc documentary because their so called clean chit wasn't so clean.

 

[Paji]

Your argument was about a separate Muslim state having its power divided and being weaker vs India having all its Muslims. I'm not going to go off on tangent now talking about minorities in pak. As I said to you, Muslims in pak or bangladesh are more powerful than in India as they can freely practise their faith and not be persecuted as they are in India.

You have seen how Hindus and Sikhs are treated in Pakistan and you are assuming that Indian Muslims are treated the same way, but that is not true at all. Indian Muslims are free to practice their religion without persecution. If they were not, they would have fled India just like Hindus fled Pakistan and the Muslim population in India would not have gone up from 9% to 14%. The problem is you have been so conditioned by propoganda that you cannot even perceive of the possibility that Indian Muslims are perfectly happy and prosperous as they are and , except for the ruling elite, are better off than Pakistani Muslims.

The case of the elites is different. The Sharifs or Bhutto/Zardaris have the kind of political clout in Pakistan that no Muslim or even Hindu family has in India. So you can certainly argue that the creation of Pakistan worked out well for the vaderas but the average Pakistani Muslim who just wants to take care of his family and go about his life is worse off than the average Indian or Bangladeshi ( both secular countries) Muslim.

Modi and Co getting clean chits is laughable

It is clear you have no understanding of Indian politics. The Congress and BJP are sworn enemies. Why would the Congress regime have pressurised a judge to give a clean chit to their mortal enemy.