What's in your Gun Locker?

[RescueRanger]

Nice, some of my friends in law enforcement have this in their home as well, so I don't know why SU-47 is shocked to see a semi auto version in a home?

Anyways currently I have nothing for self defense other than a cricket bat and some very good German cutlery in my kitchen. I always felt fully safe with my fists as well. Though with the crime rate in Western countries going up, and the economy coming down, I felt it only natural to be inclined to arm myself, to protect my rights and so forth.

Future gun locker is going to look like this :

1. Glock 32
2. Glock 19
3. Beretta AL391 semi auto shotgun

I think we have some giant laws over here that Pakistani's don't, so price is usually not even the first thing to look at when purchasing a weapon, usually it's legality. I don't think I can ever own an automatic for self defense/collection with these liberal laws in place

Kharian_Beast,

Do you live in the UK? If so you may be able to apply for a Shot Gun Licence, right? Nothing better for room clearing than a 12 gauge... anyway look into it!

And when you come to Pakistan you can fire all the Auto Weapons you want... Mobilink Gun Club now do packages (for those with money) or if you have connections in LE or MIL you can go for some fun range practice at one of the many Police training schools... Altough it has become a little more regulated after what heppend in Islamabad.

Regards,

 

[Kharian_Beast]

Kharian_Beast,

Do you live in the UK? If so you may be able to apply for a Shot Gun Licence, right? Nothing better for room clearing than a 12 gauge... anyway look into it!

And when you come to Pakistan you can fire all the Auto Weapons you want... Mobilink Gun Club now do packages (for those with money) or if you have connections in LE or MIL you can go for some fun range practice at one of the many Police training schools... Altough it has become a little more regulated after what heppend in Islamabad.

Regards,

Thanks Rescue Ranger, truly the only place for most people to feel the automatic kick of a G3 or the wholesome sounds of an auto AK47 is Pakistan. When I will go for a visit I will look into purchasing a few G3 and if possible MG3. In Pakistan my family had closets full of guns but I think they gave these to the army before they came to UK. My friends here don't believe how many guns we had.

 

[metalfalcon]

Firstly do you have a licence? If not then get one otherwise carrying one will get you sent to the ATC quicker then you can say "rubber baby buggy bumpers". Also you can pick up a captured one from Derra very cheap but it will be impossible to get out of there.

The legal way is to first apply for a licence (the sporting version of the 5.56 = .223 Remington) so your weapon as long as it is semi auto .223 will be classified as a rifle and you can put your reason for applying as 1 of 2: Hunting or Self Defence.

Your application form can be obtained from the following:

Khi: Dont know the process
Lhr/Rwp: Goto DCO office or local Kachari Office
NWFP: Same
Isbd/Fed Capital: Ministry of Interior or Kachari (F-8)

Do note that unless you have lots of Dosh or Safarish (Friends in high places) be prepared to become part of the waiting list which is very long, the quota is small and if you know someone in Gov each minister gets a quota and they can get you one out of their Quota"

Also a good part of obtaining a Islamabad Fire Arms Licence is that it is all Pakistan.

Then once you have your licence you can put you weapon on the Licence and you will also get a ammo quota, this stipulates you can carry 30 rounds for Pistol, 30 rounds for rifle or 15 cartridges for shotgun.

Hope this helps, if you still have questions go to your friendly neighbourhood gun dealer.

I just need to buy them, I have a License ( Lot of my close relatives are in Armed forces Of Pakistan).

I already have lot of guns like TT, Ak-47, Shot gun Etc but they are no match For guns Like M4 carbine and stuff like that. I want to Buy a Real cool Gun, I have seen Pathans holding a Steyr AUG, M4 carbine or M-16 I want to buy a G-36 with a grenade launcher..... Just for fun

 

[RescueRanger]

I just need to buy them, I have a License ( Lot of my close relatives are in Armed forces Of Pakistan).

I already have lot of guns like TT, Ak-47, Shot gun Etc but they are no match For guns Like M4 carbine and stuff like that. I want to Buy a Real cool Gun, I have seen Pathans holding a Steyr AUG, M4 carbine or M-16 I want to buy a G-36 with a grenade launcher..... Just for fun

"Real Cool Gun"...

There is nothing cool about a weapon, it is meant for one purpose (to kill) and that is not cool, you post are showing your age and I mean that in a bad way.

Just to let you know the G-36 is a prohibited bore weapon? Secondly what are you going to do with a grenade launcher? Who do you plan to protect yourself against? An APV?

If you have family is the army then ask them, I am sure they can hook you up, but in light of your comments above I wouldn’t give you a spud gun let alone grenade launcher.

 

[XYON]

My philosophy is to have at home and to know how to accurately fire a weapon system (pistol etc) and NOT NEED IT compared to not having one when you NEED IT THE MOST!

Have a few pistols & semi-auto units in my locker but my favorite by far remains my P90;

 

[RescueRanger]

My philosophy is to have at home and to know how to accurately fire a weapon system (pistol etc) and NOT NEED IT compared to not having one when you NEED IT THE MOST!

Have a few pistols & semi-auto units in my locker but my favorite by far remains my P90;

Nice, altough i am not a big fan of bullpub designs this is one weapon that really cuts the mustard. THank you for sharing.

 

[metalfalcon]

"Real Cool Gun"...

There is nothing cool about a weapon, it is meant for one purpose (to kill) and that is not cool, you post are showing your age and I mean that in a bad way.

Just to let you know the G-36 is a prohibited bore weapon? Secondly what are you going to do with a grenade launcher? Who do you plan to protect yourself against? An APV?

If you have family is the army then ask them, I am sure they can hook you up, but in light of your comments above I wouldn’t give you a spud gun let alone grenade launcher.

Its my hobby mann, plz don't get Excited, I have seen many people With prohibited Weapons what about them. Any how It will be long Topic so just leave it.

There is nothing cool about a weapon, it is meant for one purpose (to kill) and that is not cool, you post are showing your age and I mean that in a bad way.

There is Everything cool about weapons, They are not meant ONLY to kill, They are also meant For Protecting your House and Family Its not always Necessary to kill someone, Sometimes you may Scare the Enemy, WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ME AND MY AGE, Please Don't pass judgment on someone by just reading their post, i was just kidding mann Why so serious ?

I was just joking, You are right mann Why the hell i need a Gun and With Grenade launcher ?

By the way i have fired many weapons like G-3 and MP-5. Many of my Cousins have their Personnel Collection In the wardrobe i have pics of them but they are in my computer and i don't know How to Upload them ?

If you have family is the army then ask them, I am sure they can hook you up, but in light of your comments above I wouldn’t give you a spud gun let alone grenade launcher

Thanx Buddy for your Kind Information and help, I have visited Darra Adam Khel and Seen the Guns being Manufactured Locally, I have seen the bullets being sold in Kilos in Peshawar. I thought you could give me some advice on how to get hand on REAL American weapons.

Seriously i was Thinking of a Gun whose pic is posted in the start of the Thread and i want to Buy it (If is Its Affordable and IF You don't have a objection on it), About The G-36 With a Grenade launcher i was Just Joking mann its not for me.

 

[RescueRanger]

Its my hobby mann, plz don't get Excited, I have seen many people With prohibited Weapons what about them. Any how It will be long Topic so just leave it.



There is Everything cool about weapons, They are not meant ONLY to kill, They are also meant For Protecting your House and Family Its not always Necessary to kill someone, Sometimes you may Scare the Enemy, WHAT DO YOU KNOW ABOUT ME AND MY AGE, Please Don't pass judgment on someone by just reading their post, i was just kidding mann Why so serious ?

I was just joking, You are right mann Why the hell i need a Gun and With Grenade launcher ?

By the way i have fired many weapons like G-3 and MP-5. Many of my Cousins have their Personnel Collection In the wardrobe i have pics of them but they are in my computer and i don't know How to Upload them ?



Thanx Buddy for your Kind Information and help, I have visited Darra Adam Khel and Seen the Guns being Manufactured Locally, I have seen the bullets being sold in Kilos in Peshawar. I thought you could give me some advice on how to get hand on REAL American weapons.

Seriously i was Thinking of a Gun whose pic is posted in the start of the Thread and i want to Buy it (If is Its Affordable and IF You don't have a objection on it), About The G-36 With a Grenade launcher i was Just Joking mann its not for me.

If you have been to Derra then you must have seen the M4's they have several captured form either Afghan or US forces in Afghanistan. Also if you want to buy some real american weaponse then you need to book an appointment with Essa & Mussa Jee (the biggest gun dealers) in Pakistan.

I bought my AR-15 sporter from them but also Shamsuddin in Khi can also hook you up with M4's (Fully Auto with 90 Round C-Mags for about 950,000). If you wanna buy an illegal one you will have to goto derra or get someone to steal one from PTC Sihallah

Regards,

 

[metalfalcon]

If you have been to Derra then you must have seen the M4's they have several captured form either Afghan or US forces in Afghanistan. Also if you want to buy some real american weaponse then you need to book an appointment with Essa & Mussa Jee (the biggest gun dealers) in Pakistan.

I bought my AR-15 sporter from them but also Shamsuddin in Khi can also hook you up with M4's (Fully Auto with 90 Round C-Mags for about 950,000). If you wanna buy an illegal one you will have to goto derra or get someone to steal one from PTC Sihallah

Regards,

When i went to derra Adam khel that was in 1996 or 1997 and that time Bullets were being sold on Peshawar Streets like vegetables, But things have changed since then, I can no longer visit Derra and Peshawar streets are clean these dayz.

Any why thanx for Your Information and help dude.

I will get One soon but through a proper Channel.

 

[A.Rahman]

what are the legal channels in Pakistan to get original American weapons? like M-16?

Please post info, like phone number and name. Thanks

 

[RescueRanger]

what are the legal channels in Pakistan to get original American weapons? like M-16?

Please post info, like phone number and name. Thanks

I made this thread to see other peoples collection but instead i am being bombarded with requests on how to buy weapons? ... Hmmm... Come on people its not that hard to get hold of exotic weapons in Pakistan, you guys ae making it sound like we live in the third world or somthing.

Anyway i will include the reputable dealers for Rwp, Lhr and Khi who only sell weapons to people who own (licence) and can LEGALLY purchase weapons.


Here is the list:

Rawalpindi:

ELAHEE BUKSH & CO.
Address : 41-C-1,Bank Road
City : Rawalpindi
Phone # : (92 51) 5567172, 5583370
Fax : (92 51) 5525689
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A.M. IBRAHIMJI & SONS
Address : Adamjee Road,Saddar,Near Hathi Chowk
City : Rawalpindi
Phone # : (92 51) 5565225, 5568119
Fax : (92 51) 5568119

Lahore:

BUKSH ELAHEE & CO. (PVT) LTD.
Address : 8 Dayal Singh Mansion,Shahrae Quaid-e-Azam
City : Lahore
Phone # : (92 42) 7321949, 7324827
Fax : (92 42) 7231707
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EVANTHI INTERNATIONAL

Address : 61-T,Gulberg-II
City : Lahore
Phone # : (92 42) 6369168, 6369167
Fax : (92 42) 6368180
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Karachi:

ELAHEE BUKSH & CO.
Address : 7,Clifton Pride,G-3/1,Block-8,Main Clifton Road
City : Karachi
Phone # : (92 21) 5837977
Fax : (92 21) 5874123
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KARACHI ARMS CENTRE

Address : 4-Rafique Plaza,Lucky Star,Saddar
City : Karachi
Phone # : (92 21) 5218976, 5214733
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[niaz]

With so many Hon members having firearms in their lockers, I am embarassed to admit that I only have two shot guns.

One is side by side British Midlands 27 inch ( 1/4 choke, improved cylinder) for grouse shoot. The other is Belgian over under 28 inch ( full choke, 1/2 choke) for Skeet and Clay pigeon. Both are in the UK. I have not used them since Feb. when I was last in England.

 

[RescueRanger]

With so many Hon members having firearms in their lockers, I am embarassed to admit that I only have two shot guns.

One is side by side British Midlands 27 inch ( 1/4 choke, improved cylinder) for grouse shoot. The other is Belgian over under 28 inch ( full choke, 1/2 choke) for Skeet and Clay pigeon. Both are in the UK. I have not used them since Feb. when I was last in England.

Excellent selection, my cousins in mianwali are regular hunters and carry an assortment of classical british and italian shotguns, although i prefer more practical designs in comparision to the typical side by side, my favourite from his collection is his Edgar Brothers CZ .223 rifle (what a masterpeice).

Anyway thankyou for sharing.

 

[su-47]

Also in response to Su-47 “why we need guns in the house and why fully auto?”

It is not juts a Pakistani thing, in the US many people have access to far more exotic weapons systems (why dont you google it).

I know that people keep automatic weapons in USA, but the need for that arose due to lenient gun laws which allowed criminals easy access to guns. Same case in South Africa. In South Africa many people had guns at home, since the rate of crime was so high. We never had anything more than a cheap air rifle (which by the way, got completely messed and had to be thrown away). Had the law restricted purchase of guns, people wouldn't need one in the first place. Now everyday, scores of people are shot dead in SA and USA.

In my personal opinion, governments should not allow civilians to purchase guns (other than air rifles)

 

[RescueRanger]

I know that people keep automatic weapons in USA, but the need for that arose due to lenient gun laws which allowed criminals easy access to guns. Same case in South Africa. In South Africa many people had guns at home, since the rate of crime was so high. We never had anything more than a cheap air rifle (which by the way, got completely messed and had to be thrown away). Had the law restricted purchase of guns, people wouldn't need one in the first place. Now everyday, scores of people are shot dead in SA and USA.

In my personal opinion, governments should not allow civilians to purchase guns (other than air rifles)

If the gov can assure citizens of a curroption free and efficent law enforcement orginization then i would sleep better at night, but i would still want to own a gun just in case. Security ( My Family is more important to me than anything else, and i know the response time for Pakistan police so lets just say keeping one is more a need then a want.