What's behind suicides by thousands of Indian housewives?

[jamahir]

Clearing out historical hubris via a revolution tends to kill unimaginably high number of people and has social aftereffects for generations to come.

It's bizarre that your solution to saving lives is killing a lot more.

How is @Stranagor wrong ? India needs a political and socio-economic revolution. And it's not necessary that a revolution be violent - look at the Libyan revolution of 1969. Bloodless. It brought emancipation to the Libyan women and to all oppressed. And what social aftereffects are you talking of ?

I don't understand how middle class Indian males especially can go about their idiotic life of college degree, cricket and religion when confronted with socio-economic realities like suicide of 350,000+ farmers in the country just between 1995 and 2015 ? These suicides are murders really. How have the perpetrators, who are the private moneylenders and the microfinance corporations, not been punished yet ? And these suiciding housewives, are they not being murdered by the 3000-year-old oppressive socio-economic system that is maintained by idiotic political leaders ?

Frankly, the patriarchal nature of our society bulldoses women to an unimaginable degree. An office worker gets a Sunday off, on what day does a homemaker rest?

Patriarchy is there but there is also the thing about women oppressing other women either with conspiracy, gossip and generally creating a suffocating environment.

Suicide is quite popular theme in theatres and political lingua in India.

The cut throat Indian societal system happily consumes the tragedy like a mundane nuisance of any regular day if not encourage it.

Yes, India is quite a cut-throat and dog-eat-dog society. Extremely competitive. And tragedy is people here fight over temples and mosques and cricket and college degrees and jobs but not over suicides. In contrast to your first paragraph suicides are not quite the popular theme in India, whether in cinema or in political lingua.

Out of many possible issues below is the one main reason.

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@jamahir

Please look at my above text and the underlined below from this section from the OP :

Mental health experts says a major reason is rampant domestic violence - 30% of all women told a recent government survey that they had faced spousal violence - and the daily drudgery that can make marriages oppressive and matrimonial homes suffocating.

Why do you think Islam has the choice for the wife to obtain divorce ?

 

[Hakikat ve Hikmet]

All of India's collective energy and resources are lost in trying to subvert and subdue Pak, for there lies her religious redemption and atonement for a thousand years of subjugation!! Where is her time to put attention to such trivial matters??

 

[Krptonite]

How is @Stranagor wrong ? India needs a political and socio-economic revolution. And it's not necessary that a revolution be violent - look at the Libyan revolution of 1969. Bloodless. It brought emancipation to the Libyan women and to all oppressed. And what social aftereffects are you talking of ?

I don't understand how middle class Indian males especially can go about their idiotic life of college degree, cricket and religion when confronted with socio-economic realities like suicide of 350,000+ farmers in the country just between 1995 and 2015 ? These suicides are murders really. How have the perpetrators, who are the private moneylenders and the microfinance corporations, not been punished yet ? And these suiciding housewives, are they not being murdered by the 3000-year-old oppressive socio-economic system that is maintained by idiotic political leaders ?



Patriarchy is there but there is also the thing about women oppressing other women either with conspiracy, gossip and generally creating a suffocating environment.

The peacefull revolution you speak of is gradual, cumulative and takes consensus. The need for socio and political change is immutable and you rightly pointed the correct path, but espousing a violent one defeats the purpose of the debate.

The competitive society, cut throat behaviour you've described is human nature, research will back that up, it's an unfortunate reality and I am in complete agreement with your view points, but pragmatically, the solutions are optimistic. The higher moral fibre required for a optimal socialist governance just isn't there.

That is not to say struggle towards what is right should be abandoned, but simply that change, any change in a society like ours is colosally slow for it is more akin to treating an infection than rooting out parasites.

You've also mentioned women oppressing women, and I do agree with your assertions, but that does not take away from the argument that the current system is patriarchal in nature and women often enable this. A strangest case of Stockholm syndrome if there ever was one.

 

[Paitoo]

Hate to trivialize this through statistics , but if housewives are a certain percentage of the population, they will likely be a certain % of the suicides too. I am not denying even for a moment that it is still largely a man's world and it is not easy being a woman. Men are not going to relinquish their patriarchal privileges easily. Suicides are sad, for whatever reason. Every suicide is partly a failure of society.

Suicide is quite popular theme in theatres and political lingua in India.

Care to elaborate on this?

The cut throat Indian societal system happily consumes the tragedy like a mundane nuisance of any regular day if not encourage it.

Suicide is a personal tragedy. Only the family of the deceased has to deal with the consequences, like in any death. The so called collective misery of Indian societal system cannot obfuscate the pain of it. The "cut throat Indian societal system" is also not a living person who will happily consume a tragedy or comedy. To use a blanket epithet to propagate the view that family members of a dead person are in someway immune to the pain of the tragedy is grossly unfair on the same people you are trying to sympathize with.

 

[Longhorn]

I did not disagree that you share some common culture with Hindus, such as ancient practice like honor killing. I hope you are able to eradicate these practices completely.

Though I agree that we have imported some very un Islamic practices from our Hindu heritage, the practice of marital rape, honour killing, patriarchal oppression and the like are not unique to Hindus or Muslims of the Indian subcontinent.
They are prevalent in the whole Islamic world. To blame our Hindu heritage is a little disingenuous IMO. It deflects and detracts from what should be our efforts to eradicate these ills from all Islamic societies.

 

[El Sidd]

In contrast to your first paragraph suicides are not quite the popular theme in India, whether in cinema or in political lingua.

Care to elaborate on this?

You ask google or siri about it they will tell you.

Its not hard. Just turn your tv on. It's nothing but rape and suicide.

Suicide is a personal tragedy.

It's a social crime.

 

[Maula Jatt]

Because you have imported lots of Hindu culture, including a pseudo-caste system called biradari.

Birradari system is clan based system not caste based system
Clan is someone's ethnic, family identity unlike caste system which is a pyramid scheme
There's a distinction between the 2
It's dying out though in urban centers but I don't think it's bad
Your family/history can be traced back etc
Many Muslim societies around the world have this system clan/tribes

 

[Kamikaze Pilot]

How is @Stranagor wrong ? India needs a political and socio-economic revolution. And it's not necessary that a revolution be violent - look at the Libyan revolution of 1969. Bloodless. It brought emancipation to the Libyan women and to all oppressed. And what social aftereffects are you talking of ?

I don't understand how middle class Indian males especially can go about their idiotic life of college degree, cricket and religion when confronted with socio-economic realities like suicide of 350,000+ farmers in the country just between 1995 and 2015 ? These suicides are murders really. How have the perpetrators, who are the private moneylenders and the microfinance corporations, not been punished yet ? And these suiciding housewives, are they not being murdered by the 3000-year-old oppressive socio-economic system that is maintained by idiotic political leaders ?



Patriarchy is there but there is also the thing about women oppressing other women either with conspiracy, gossip and generally creating a suffocating environment.



Yes, India is quite a cut-throat and dog-eat-dog society. Extremely competitive. And tragedy is people here fight over temples and mosques and cricket and college degrees and jobs but not over suicides. In contrast to your first paragraph suicides are not quite the popular theme in India, whether in cinema or in political lingua.



Please look at my above text and the underlined below from this section from the OP :

Why do you think Islam has the choice for the wife to obtain divorce ?

So instead of 3,50,000 suicides in 20 years, you want millions of Indians to be killed in a single year a la holodomor.