What national interests Hafiz Syed serve for Pakistan?

[SMC]

Not really.
You yourself look at data.
We are growing faster than you.

I first said Pakistan was doing better economically now. You talked about poverty. I gave the poverty figures. You are now changing goal posts.

But I didn't ask how much poverty you have.
I asked how many people you have brought out of poverty in last year if economy is doing good.

I am not sure how you expect last year's data to be already available. But rest assured the number of people left in poverty is much less than bharat even as a % of the population.

We are supported by US, Isreal, Philistine (ouch ) , Russia, Afganistan, Bangladesh, Iran, UK, France........ etc.
Just leave Turkey and china.

When did Russia, Iran, UK, France lend any support on the issue of terrorism against Pakistan? Israel has no diplomatic relations with Pakistan so can't speak about them but they haven't spoken against Pakistan either.

That still leaves about, oh I don't know, 180 other countries?

The only countries you can truly claim to be in your camp are US, Afghanistan and maybe Bangladesh.

Every other countries supports on Hafiz syed. Thats why he UN designated terrorist.

You were previously talking about state sponsored terrorism. Now you are talking about non-state actors?

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

I first said Pakistan was doing better economically now. You talked about poverty. I gave the poverty figures. You are now changing goal posts.



I am not sure how you expect last year's data to be already available. But rest assured the number of people left in poverty is much less than bharat even as a % of the population.



When did Russia, Iran, UK, France lend any support on the issue of terrorism against Pakistan? Israel has no diplomatic relations with Pakistan so can't speak about them but they haven't spoken against Pakistan either.

That still leaves about, oh I don't know, 180 other countries?

The only countries you can truly claim to be in your camp are US, Afghanistan and maybe Bangladesh.



You were previously talking about state sponsored terrorism. Now you are talking about non-state actors?

This thread is all about Hafiz saeed and his impact on Pakistan at world platform. Whatever he is for you , a non sate actor or a saint.

 

[SMC]

This thread is all about Hafiz saeed and his impact on Pakistan at world platform. Whatever he is for you , a non sate actor or a saint.

Your statement was not about Hafiz Saeed but about Pakistan. What impact has he had on Pakistan on the world platform? Most of the countries you mentioned do not buy your story on Pakistan or just don't care. True, they may do that for Hafiz Saeed, but that's not the same thing as what you mentioned initially.

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

Your statement was not about Hafiz Saeed but about Pakistan. What impact has he had on Pakistan on the world platform? Most of the countries you mentioned do not buy your story on Pakistan or just don't care. True, they may do that for Hafiz Saeed, but that's not the same thing as what you mentioned initially.

If they don't buy our narrative then how he became an UN designated terrorist?
Do you really think these countries will support you over India?
When evem your Ummah chumma is not supporting then how you can even think that othee non Muslims countries will support you over India.

China supports you just because we have enemity and rivalry with china.
Otherwise there is no reason china would support you over India anytime.

 

[Thorough Pro]

He is a free Pakistani citizen. Set free by our courts for lack of any evidence linking him to any illegal activity.
We won't hang a person only because of false stories by fucked up Indians.

You current PM is a bonafied terrorist directly involved in murder of at east 2000 innocent Muslims. He was a designated terrorist by the US, and by your logic 1.3 billion Indians are definitely fools to chose him as their pm

I mean pakistan's policy makers are blind or fools. An UN designated terrorist holding a big rallies in Pakistan without any problem. Do you think world is fool and is gonna ignore this?
Just fews days back he clicked a pic with Philistine's diplomat. India got a chance to humiliate pakistan in front of the world.
Philistine gave a slap to Pakistan.
Hafiz syed is the biggest reason why pakistan is tagged as a "terrorist country ' outside pakistan.
Still Hafiz syed is the reason for chest thumping for Gazwa e Hind delusional lovers.
Do you think he is gonna make kashmir free for you??
If you think then your are dumb.
The only conclusion comes out that Hifiz syed is the reason of Pakistan's humiliation all over the world.
Then what national interests Hafiz serve for pakistan? ?
Don't you think if you give up on him , it will be better for pakistan's interests??

 

[SMC]

If they don't buy our narrative then how he became an UN designated terrorist?
Do you really think these countries will support you over India?
When evem your Ummah chumma is not supporting then how you can even think that othee non Muslims countries will support you over India.

China supports you just because we have enemity and rivalry with china.
Otherwise there is no reason china would support you over India anytime.

Again. Have these countries spoke against the Pakistani state like US has, or India or Afghanistan do every now and then? They have spoken against Hafiz Saeed. Hafiz Saeed is not the Pakistani state.

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

Again. Have these countries spoke against the Pakistani state like US has, or India or Afghanistan do every now and then? They have spoken against Hafiz Saeed. Hafiz Saeed is not the Pakistani state.

Read france and uk statements.
https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&s...jMAA&usg=AOvVaw1_3i2Mwzhxn4vggf59LUbS&ampcf=1

http://googleweblight.com/i?u=http:...d-south-asia-10791182&grqid=k7Qj6MKR&hl=en-IN

 

[SMC]

Read france and uk statements.
https://www.google.co.in/url?sa=t&s...jMAA&usg=AOvVaw1_3i2Mwzhxn4vggf59LUbS&ampcf=1

http://googleweblight.com/i?u=http:...d-south-asia-10791182&grqid=k7Qj6MKR&hl=en-IN

The one about France does not saying anything like you suggest. Being unhappy over Hafiz Saeed's release is not the same as what you mentioned in your initial post. Have they said anything similar to what your country or Afghanistan or Trump have said? The UK article is 8 years old.

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

The one about France does not saying anything like you suggest. Being unhappy over Hafiz Saeed's release is not the same as what you mentioned in your initial post. Have they said anything similar to what your country or Afghanistan or Trump have said? The UK article is 8 years old.

I mentioned the world support us war on terror and world knows what is the source of terrorism in India. We are fighting with Pakistan on terrorism.
Our PM or our diplomats mentions it on every world platform.
We issue statement against Pakistan state everytime. And world back us.
This is not new thing to know.
Everybody knows that most of dangerous terrorists in world had been found in Pakistan only. They were killed or ran away.
This is your policy. Still you think world will support you over India.

 

[SMC]

I mentioned the world support us war on terror and world knows what is the source of terrorism in India. We are fighting with Pakistan on terrorism.
Our PM or our diplomats mentions it on every world platform.
We issue statement against Pakistan state everytime. And world back us.
This is not new thing to know.
Everybody knows that most of dangerous terrorists in world had been found in Pakistan only. They were killed or ran away.
This is your policy. Still you think world will support you over India.

I just explained that even France and UK are not on your side (no they are not on Pakistan's side either, they are neutral). And this is your response? I mean, did you completely ignore what I posted before and bury your head in the sand? I repeat, no one besides US, Bangladesh and Afghanistan has backed you against the Pakistani state. You are quite badly brainwashed if you think that has happened. They have backed you against Hafiz Saeed, not the Pakistani state. Do you not understand the difference yet? Too much Indian media perhaps?

The world is not supporting either Pakistan or India. Most of the countries are neutral. They will support either on individual issues. I think you need to get out of your bharati bubble and move into the real world. It's not as black and white as you might think. I see what's going on with you, you seem to have had too much dosage of Indian media.

Right now most of the world is focusing at MENA for terrorism. I think you are 5-10 years behind in that as well if you think everyone is just looking at Pakistan. Have you ever heard of ISIS, Boko Haram, Al Shahab? You are quite badly out of touch with the global geopolitics, no doubt because of brainwashing by bharati media.

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

I just explained that even France and UK are not on your side (no they are not on Pakistan's side either, they are neutral). And this is your response? I mean, did you completely ignore what I posted before and start from a clean ignorant slate? I repeat, no one besides US, Bangladesh and Afghanistan has backed you against the Pakistani state. You are quite badly brainwashed if you think that has happened. They have backed you against Hafiz Saeed, not the Pakistani state. Too much Indian media perhaps?

The world is not supporting either Pakistan or India. Most of the countries are neutral. They will support either on individual issues. I think you need to get out of your bharati bubble and move into the real world. It's not as black and white as you might think. I see what's going on with you, you seem to have had too much dosage of Indian media.

Right now most of the world is focusing at MENA for terrorism. I think you are 5-10 years behind in that as well if you think everyone is just looking at Pakistan. Have you ever heard of ISIS, Boko Haram, Al Shahab? You are quite badly out of touch with the global geopolitics, no doubt because of brainwashing by bharati media.

I dont watch any local media, neither yours.
But truth can be heard all around.
If countries are not against you then why the hell they are not doing any business with you except Chinese.
I dont see any big deal happening with other countries.
They dont even sell their weapons to you. You are forced to look at Chinese only for weapons too.
Nobody's wants you dude.
You were on flying horse when US was your friend sweeter than honey. Now what's happening with you. Use and throw.
First learn to accept your fault and weakness if really want to see in real what you wish for .

 

[SMC]

I dont watch any local media, neither yours.
But truth can be heard all around.
If countries are not against you then why the hell they are doing any business with you except Chinese.
I dont see any big deal happening with other countries.
They dont even sell their weapons to you. You are forced to look at Chinese only for weapons too.
Nobody's wants you dude.
You were on flying horse when US was your friend sweeter than honey. Now what's happening with you. Use and throw.
First learn to accept your fault and weakness if really want to see in real what you wish for .

How are you defining "doing business"? If you mean foreign companies having business ties with Pakistani companies or having business operations in Pakistan, then have you done any research on that? What is your proof they are not doing business in Pakistan? Even US companies do business in Pakistan. Do you have any idea what you are talking about?

We mostly buy from China due to other reasons, such as cheaper price and ToT. We have had defence deals with many European countries in recent past, including Sweden and Italy. Again, do you have any idea what you are talking about or are you just blabbering?

How old are you btw? I am going to guess no more than 16, which would explain the astonishing level of ignorance in your post. But then again, I've seen much older bharatis with just as much ignorance about Pakistan, so anything is possible with that country.

 

[sputnik]

I mean pakistan's policy makers are blind or fools. An UN designated terrorist holding a big rallies in Pakistan without any problem. Do you think world is fool and is gonna ignore this?
Just fews days back he clicked a pic with Philistine's diplomat. India got a chance to humiliate pakistan in front of the world.
Philistine gave a slap to Pakistan.
Hafiz syed is the biggest reason why pakistan is tagged as a "terrorist country ' outside pakistan.
Still Hafiz syed is the reason for chest thumping for Gazwa e Hind delusional lovers.
Do you think he is gonna make kashmir free for you??
If you think then your are dumb.
The only conclusion comes out that Hifiz syed is the reason of Pakistan's humiliation all over the world.
Then what national interests Hafiz serve for pakistan? ?
Don't you think if you give up on him , it will be better for pakistan's interests??

Dear Broken heart, plz don't disturb them. tomorrow if he will be dead or arrested then it would be more harm to us.

enjoy your stay.

 

[The BrOkEn HeArT]

How are you defining "doing business"? If you mean foreign companies having business ties with Pakistani companies or having business operations in Pakistan, then have you done any research on that? What is your proof they are not doing business in Pakistan? Even US companies do business in Pakistan. Do you have any idea what you are talking about?

We mostly buy from China due to other reasons, such as cheaper price and ToT. We have had defence deals with many European countries in recent past, including Sweden and Italy. Again, do you have any idea what you are talking about or are you just blabbering?

How old are you btw? I am going to guess no more than 16, which would explain the astonishing level of ignorance in your post. But then again, I've seen much older bharatis with just as much ignorance about Pakistan, so anything is possible with that country.

Foreign private companies even do business in Somalia and NK.
But this is not what we are discussing.
You are enough naive to understand that here we are talking about govt to govt deals.
Like your govt has done on CPEC with china to let them occupy your resources and economy.

 

[ziaulislam]

Yesterday, you were thinking totally opposite.
Today , you don't care about Philistine and Israel. Lol
Slap was hard enough it seems.

when?
we care about palestinian pepoles because we are human being, but we dont care waht al fateh or so calle dpalestine govt thinks, lastly, palestinian govt didnt recall its ambasadder to pak