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What if Sri Lanka joined ASEAN?

If Sri Lanka joined ASEAN will it benefit SL?

  • Yes

    Votes: 22 84.6%
  • No

    Votes: 1 3.8%
  • Not sure

    Votes: 3 11.5%

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    26
There's no chance of Sri Lanka or Bangladesh joining ASEAN now.

ASEAN Charter Article requires a prospective applicant to be located in the recognized geographical region of Southeast Asia.

Maybe now but in 1967 the nascent ASEAN infact invited Sri Lanka to join only to be opposed by Singapore, Due two factors, first as i mentioned it saw Colombo as a direct threat to it's economy , Two the then Singapore president was a rabit anti Lankan Tamil of Ceylonese origin

Sri Lanka now is a regional partner nation of ASEAN since 2007

http://asiantribune.com/node/6856

Singapore’s Rajaratnam prevented Sri Lanka joining ASEAN – The Nation

Tue, 2007-08-07 03:26 — admin

By Walter Jayawardhana

Bangkok, 07 August, (Asiantribune.com): Thailand's English Language news daily, The Nation in an interview with a knowledgeable diplomat revealed that it was Singapore’s former Foreign Minister Sinnathamby Rajaratnam , was the one responsible for who blocking Sri Lanka’s entry to the Association of South Asian Nations (ASEAN) family four decades ago at the very beginning of the group.

The newspaper publishing an interview with a close aid to the then Thai Foreign Minister said that Sri Lanka failed to enter the regional body because Singapore’s Rajaratnam made objections to the island nation’s entry to the organization saying the domestic situation was unstable and that would adversely affect the newly formed organization.

Ironically, independent Singapore’s first Foreign Minister Sinnathamby Rajaratnam was a Tamil of Jaffna origin.

The Nation interview revealed that Sri Lanka sent two ministers to apply for membership in the regional organization August 6 1967 when Foreign Ministers from Indonesia, Malysia, the Philippines, Thailand and Singapore met to prepare the Bangkok Declaration which gave birth to ASEAN.

Quoting the retired Thai diplomat the Nation newspaper said it was Rjaratnam who snubbed the Sri Lankan application preventing island nation joining the nascent organization at the Bang Saen Beach meeting where the first meeting was held.

Sompong Sucharitkul (75) a former aid to the Thai Foreign Minister told the newspaper, "It was Rajaratnam of Singapore who opposed the inclusion of Sri Lanka, He argued the country's domestic situation was unstable and there would be trouble. Not good for a new organization."

Sompong was a close aide to Thanat Khoman, the Thai foreign minister at the time of the meeting in Bang Saen. The Bangkok Declaration was finally signed on August 8, 1967, ASEAN's official birthday.

Given below is the full text of the interview that appeared in yesterdays “The Nation.”

Asean's birth a pivotal point in history of Southeast Asia

In the small hours of August 6, 1967 at Laem Thaen, Bang Saen Beach, the foreign ministers of Thailand, the Philippines, Singapore, Indonesia and a Malaysian deputy prime minister were huddled.

They were hammering out the final text of the Bangkok Declaration.

This was to form an organisation, tentatively known as the Southeast Asian Association for Regional Cooperation, or SEAARC.

"The name sounded good to me, like a crescent moon covering Southeast Asia," a retired diplomat who helped draft the declaration said.

"But Adam Malik said at the end the pronunciation of the acronym in Malayu didn’t sound good," he said. "Why don't we use Asean instead. It sounds better. Everybody agreed," Sompong Sucharitkul told The Nationin a rare interview.

Thus, Asean was born.

Thailand's then foreign minister Thanat Khoman, Philippine foreign secretary Marciso Ramos, Singapore foreign minister Sinnathamby Rajaratnam and Malaysian deputy prime minister Tengu Abdul Razak signed the document establishing the region's most powerful grouping on August 8 at Saranrom Palace, the former home of the Foreign Ministry near the Royal Palace.

Sompong, one Thanat's closest aides, revealed two ministers from Sri Lanka were waiting in an adjacent room at the Laem Thaen meeting.

"I remember one was an economics minister. He waited there anxiously for a signal to join the discussion; but it never came."

"It was Rajaratnam of Singapore who opposed the inclusion of Sri Lanka," the 75-year-old retired international-law professor said.

"He argued the country's domestic situation was unstable and there would be trouble. Not good for a new organisation," he quoted the first Singapore foreign minister saying.

Rajaratnam was born in Sri Lanka of Tamil descent but taken to Malaya shortly after by his father, who had emigrated to the colony.

Thailand and the other founding members did not oppose barring Sri Lanka.

"Indeed, we would have welcomed Sri Lanka as a member. If you look at the map, it's not far from Southeast Asia. It is also a Buddhist nation," he added.

But, the idea of having all 10 Southeast Asian nations together was always at the back of the minds of the founders - even though, at that time, the region was divided into three: non-communist Southeast Asia, communist Indochina and isolated Burma.

"We knew in our hearts they would be part of Asean one day. That was why, towards the end of the Bangkok Declaration, we invited all countries of Southeast Asia to join," he explained.

The expansion of Asean came in 1984 when Brunei joined, followed by Vietnam in 1995 and Burma and Laos in 1997. Cambodia signed up in 2000.

It is interesting to note Asean is poised to admit East Timor, the world's newest independent nation. It will be the 11th and final member.

This implies Asean will turn down the application of Papua New Guinea. It has had observer status since 1976.

The veteran diplomat said credit must be given to Thanat who forged the idea of a regional organisation, following years of conflict and disturbance.

Thanat, the only surviving signatory, is unavailable for comment as a result of poor health.

The so-called konfrontasi between Indonesia and Malaysia and the crisis between Malaysia and the Philippines were still fresh in the memory.

"Thailand was in a position to forward and work for the creation of Asean", he said. "We were an independent nation and had friendships with all non-communist neighbors," he added. "They liked to use the good offices of Thailand."

Asean was preceded by an organization called the Association of Southeast Asia, or ASA, an alliance consisting of the Philippines, Malaysia, and Thailand and formed in 1961 but disbanded a year later.

"We were able to persuade Indonesia, which had just emerged from the crisis of 1965 to be part of Asean," he added.

Indonesia had 120 million people at the time - a mammoth country. Sompong recalled Thanat asking him to put together the draft of the declaration, which was then sent to the all original members.

Indonesia was the only country to make amendments and they all pertained to foreign military bases. At that time, all members including Singapore, Malaysia, the Philippines and Thailand had foreign bases and were signatories of Western military alliances. In retrospect, Sompong said Asean has progressed at the right pace, without imposing rapid change on members.

"The Bangkok Declaration had everything."

Summing up Asean's raison d'?tre he quotes Rajaratnam: "If we do not hang together, we of Asean will hang separately."

Kavi Chongkittavorn - The Nation –
 
The South East Asian economies came together under the umbrella of the Association for South East Asian Nations (ASEAN) in 1967. Like their European counterparts, ASEAN was initially regarded more as a political forum, intended to provide a "buffer" against the spread of communism in East and South East Asia, rather than as a group with an explicit commitment to promote economic cooperation in the region. Thus, it was almost 25 years after its initial establishment that ASEAN took the initiative to accelerate economic integration through the creation of a regional free trade area.

Sri Lanka, which had been invited to accept membership of ASEAN from its inception, opted instead to maintain its commitment to a "non-aligned" status. Global economic changes in the 1980s, however, prompted Sri Lanka to review its position, vis-à-vis membership of regional blocs, and it became a member of the South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation (SAARC) in 1985. The latter part of the 1980s saw a proliferation of new regional trade blocs, and the emergence of three distinct economic power blocs in North America, Europe and East Asia. As the increasing cost of being on the periphery of these growth centres was becoming more apparent, Sri Lanka unsuccessfully sought to establish a dialogue partnership with ASEAN in 1992. ASEAN's relations with third countries are presently at full dialogue or sectoral dialogue levels. The process of becoming a full dialogue partner starts with sectoral cooperation.

www.ips.lk/intecon/research/prospects/prospects.html

investvine.com/expanding-asean-five-candidates-and-their-options/

Sri Lanka
Sri Lanka actually received an invitation to join ASEAN when it was formed over 46 years ago but did not accept. Since then, political, trade and cultural ties between Sri Lanka and ASEAN member states have been tight and mutually beneficial. Sri Lanka is a member of the South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation (SAARC) and has played a leading role in promoting regional economic and cultural cooperation. Yet, SAARC is bogged down mainly due to India’s size and the India-Pakistan rivalry. Becoming a member of ASEAN would give Sri Lanka an insurance policy against unwelcomed Indian interference. The biggest gain Sri Lanka stands to benefit from an ASEAN membership is easier access to trading and investment opportunities in the region. Seeking membership of ASEAN is not an impossible task for Sri Lanka, however, it will have to think about the fact that it is geographically not a part of Southeast Asia, which is one major – though not untouchable – precondition.
I think it will benefit more to sl as they can boost diplomatic relations and trade as well as they will have more freedom
For sure it will be good step
 
Maybe now but in 1967 the nascent ASEAN infact invited Sri Lanka to join only to be opposed by Singapore, Due two factors, first as i mentioned it saw Colombo as a direct threat to it's economy , Two the then Singapore president was a rabit anti Lankan Tamil of Ceylonese origin

Sri Lanka now is a regional partner nation of ASEAN since 2007


Singapore’s Rajaratnam prevented Sri Lanka joining ASEAN
Tue, 2007-08-07 03:26 — admin

By Walter Jayawardhana

Bangkok, 07 August, Thailand's English Language news daily, The Nation in an interview with a knowledgeable diplomat revealed that it was Singapore’s former Foreign Minister Sinnathamby Rajaratnam , was the one responsible for who blocking Sri Lanka’s entry to the Association of South Asian Nations (ASEAN) family four decades ago at the very beginning of the group.

The newspaper publishing an interview with a close aid to the then Thai Foreign Minister said that Sri Lanka failed to enter the regional body because Singapore’s Rajaratnam made objections to the island nation’s entry to the organization saying the domestic situation was unstable and that would adversely affect the newly formed organization.

Ironically, independent Singapore’s first Foreign Minister Sinnathamby Rajaratnam was a Tamil of Jaffna origin.

The Nation interview revealed that Sri Lanka sent two ministers to apply for membership in the regional organization August 6 1967 when Foreign Ministers from Indonesia, Malysia, the Philippines, Thailand and Singapore met to prepare the Bangkok Declaration which gave birth to ASEAN.

Quoting the retired Thai diplomat the Nation newspaper said it was Rjaratnam who snubbed the Sri Lankan application preventing island nation joining the nascent organization at the Bang Saen Beach meeting where the first meeting was held.

Sompong Sucharitkul (75) a former aid to the Thai Foreign Minister told the newspaper, "It was Rajaratnam of Singapore who opposed the inclusion of Sri Lanka, He argued the country's domestic situation was unstable and there would be trouble. Not good for a new organization."

Sompong was a close aide to Thanat Khoman, the Thai foreign minister at the time of the meeting in Bang Saen. The Bangkok Declaration was finally signed on August 8, 1967, ASEAN's official birthday.

Given below is the full text of the interview that appeared in yesterdays “The Nation.”

Asean's birth a pivotal point in history of Southeast Asia

In the small hours of August 6, 1967 at Laem Thaen, Bang Saen Beach, the foreign ministers of Thailand, the Philippines, Singapore, Indonesia and a Malaysian deputy prime minister were huddled.

They were hammering out the final text of the Bangkok Declaration.

This was to form an organisation, tentatively known as the Southeast Asian Association for Regional Cooperation, or SEAARC.

"The name sounded good to me, like a crescent moon covering Southeast Asia," a retired diplomat who helped draft the declaration said.

"But Adam Malik said at the end the pronunciation of the acronym in Malayu didn’t sound good," he said. "Why don't we use Asean instead. It sounds better. Everybody agreed," Sompong Sucharitkul told The Nationin a rare interview.

Thus, Asean was born.

Thailand's then foreign minister Thanat Khoman, Philippine foreign secretary Marciso Ramos, Singapore foreign minister Sinnathamby Rajaratnam and Malaysian deputy prime minister Tengu Abdul Razak signed the document establishing the region's most powerful grouping on August 8 at Saranrom Palace, the former home of the Foreign Ministry near the Royal Palace.

Sompong, one Thanat's closest aides, revealed two ministers from Sri Lanka were waiting in an adjacent room at the Laem Thaen meeting.

"I remember one was an economics minister. He waited there anxiously for a signal to join the discussion; but it never came."

"It was Rajaratnam of Singapore who opposed the inclusion of Sri Lanka," the 75-year-old retired international-law professor said.

"He argued the country's domestic situation was unstable and there would be trouble. Not good for a new organisation," he quoted the first Singapore foreign minister saying.

Rajaratnam was born in Sri Lanka of Tamil descent but taken to Malaya shortly after by his father, who had emigrated to the colony.

Thailand and the other founding members did not oppose barring Sri Lanka.

"Indeed, we would have welcomed Sri Lanka as a member. If you look at the map, it's not far from Southeast Asia. It is also a Buddhist nation," he added.

But, the idea of having all 10 Southeast Asian nations together was always at the back of the minds of the founders - even though, at that time, the region was divided into three: non-communist Southeast Asia, communist Indochina and isolated Burma.

"We knew in our hearts they would be part of Asean one day. That was why, towards the end of the Bangkok Declaration, we invited all countries of Southeast Asia to join," he explained.

The expansion of Asean came in 1984 when Brunei joined, followed by Vietnam in 1995 and Burma and Laos in 1997. Cambodia signed up in 2000.

It is interesting to note Asean is poised to admit East Timor, the world's newest independent nation. It will be the 11th and final member.

This implies Asean will turn down the application of Papua New Guinea. It has had observer status since 1976.

The veteran diplomat said credit must be given to Thanat who forged the idea of a regional organisation, following years of conflict and disturbance.

Thanat, the only surviving signatory, is unavailable for comment as a result of poor health.

The so-called konfrontasi between Indonesia and Malaysia and the crisis between Malaysia and the Philippines were still fresh in the memory.

"Thailand was in a position to forward and work for the creation of Asean", he said. "We were an independent nation and had friendships with all non-communist neighbors," he added. "They liked to use the good offices of Thailand."

Asean was preceded by an organization called the Association of Southeast Asia, or ASA, an alliance consisting of the Philippines, Malaysia, and Thailand and formed in 1961 but disbanded a year later.

"We were able to persuade Indonesia, which had just emerged from the crisis of 1965 to be part of Asean," he added.

Indonesia had 120 million people at the time - a mammoth country. Sompong recalled Thanat asking him to put together the draft of the declaration, which was then sent to the all original members.

Indonesia was the only country to make amendments and they all pertained to foreign military bases. At that time, all members including Singapore, Malaysia, the Philippines and Thailand had foreign bases and were signatories of Western military alliances. In retrospect, Sompong said Asean has progressed at the right pace, without imposing rapid change on members.

"The Bangkok Declaration had everything."

Summing up Asean's raison d'?tre he quotes Rajaratnam: "If we do not hang together, we of Asean will hang separately."

Kavi Chongkittavorn - The Nation –

Not because Singapore saw Sri Lanka as a threat to its economy, the two countries are of different economic model, SG is trading port with zero resource. Sri Lanka would be no more a threat than Malaysia, Thailand or Indonesia.

It was civil unrest within Sri Lanka that SG was concerned with. “Rajaratnam argued the [Sri Lanka]’s domestic situation was unstable and there would be trouble. Not good for a new organisation,” Sompong recalled.

In the end, Sri Lanka did not even submit an application.
 
Bangladesh is regional forum member of ASEAN but not full member of ASEAN. Yes, Myanmar doesn't want us to be in ASEAN. We have Rohingya disbute with them. They deny to give citizenship to Rohingyas on ground of religion and similarities with Bangladeshis but they don't know that Rohingyas are alien to us. We don't understand their language, they may look like Bangladeshis but culturally they are different from Bangladeshis.

Adding more members who have disputes with each other reduces the effectiveness of the organization
 
The South East Asian economies came together under the umbrella of the Association for South East Asian Nations (ASEAN) in 1967. Like their European counterparts, ASEAN was initially regarded more as a political forum, intended to provide a "buffer" against the spread of communism in East and South East Asia, rather than as a group with an explicit commitment to promote economic cooperation in the region. Thus, it was almost 25 years after its initial establishment that ASEAN took the initiative to accelerate economic integration through the creation of a regional free trade area.

Sri Lanka, which had been invited to accept membership of ASEAN from its inception, opted instead to maintain its commitment to a "non-aligned" status. Global economic changes in the 1980s, however, prompted Sri Lanka to review its position, vis-à-vis membership of regional blocs, and it became a member of the South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation (SAARC) in 1985. The latter part of the 1980s saw a proliferation of new regional trade blocs, and the emergence of three distinct economic power blocs in North America, Europe and East Asia. As the increasing cost of being on the periphery of these growth centres was becoming more apparent, Sri Lanka unsuccessfully sought to establish a dialogue partnership with ASEAN in 1992. ASEAN's relations with third countries are presently at full dialogue or sectoral dialogue levels. The process of becoming a full dialogue partner starts with sectoral cooperation.

www.ips.lk/intecon/research/prospects/prospects.html

investvine.com/expanding-asean-five-candidates-and-their-options/

Sri Lanka
Sri Lanka actually received an invitation to join ASEAN when it was formed over 46 years ago but did not accept. Since then, political, trade and cultural ties between Sri Lanka and ASEAN member states have been tight and mutually beneficial. Sri Lanka is a member of the South Asian Association for Regional Cooperation (SAARC) and has played a leading role in promoting regional economic and cultural cooperation. Yet, SAARC is bogged down mainly due to India’s size and the India-Pakistan rivalry. Becoming a member of ASEAN would give Sri Lanka an insurance policy against unwelcomed Indian interference. The biggest gain Sri Lanka stands to benefit from an ASEAN membership is easier access to trading and investment opportunities in the region. Seeking membership of ASEAN is not an impossible task for Sri Lanka, however, it will have to think about the fact that it is geographically not a part of Southeast Asia, which is one major – though not untouchable – precondition.


Why would ASEAN want to have a country that is going nowhere in their association? Ranil Wickremesinghe and his yahapalanaya have turned Sri Lanka into a basket case.
 
Not sure if it would be possible now. we should have accepted in the beggining

But others in this thread are saying it was never really an official offer but more of an exploratory concept given the unstable situation in SL back then (though in all honesty I guess same could be said for some of the countries that were already in ASEAN).
 
Not sure if it would be possible now. we should have accepted in the beggining
China should invite SL and other countries around to ASEAN+China cooperation framework.
It's all about business.

Permanent site for China-ASEAN expo in Nanning City of Southwest China
南宁全景-东协expo.jpg
 

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