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What happens if South India(Dravida Nadu) becomes a separate country ? (Hindi)

His post give away his ideology and caste right away.

You won't any pro BJP/rightist Tamilian Muslims.

When I disclosed his Brahmin identity he got mad and started hurling abuses.
He can still deny your claim that he is a Brahmin.. but he can't deny that he wrote the first kalima of Islam incorrect..

A 2nd grader school boy in Pakistan knows the kalima..

By the way, can you direct me to your posts where you identified him as a Brahmin? Also, tell me the technique how you identify Brahmins?
 
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He can still deny your claim that he is a Brahmin.. but he can't deny that he wrote the first kalima of Islam incorrect..

A 2nd grader school boy in Pakistan knows the kalima..
Unfortunately people like me get banned in here. Not the Sanghi rats who pretend to be someone else.
 
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Middle east countries, China, and South Asian contries aren't natural. One ethnic group is exploiting others. They need to be broken up.

Just so you know what the thread-starter position is on China @Beast @Jlaw

Be wary of supporting for sake of few initial lines....because brush fire can turn into forest fire.

I am sure you will not get banned.. if you don't abuse Pakistan here on this forum..

Is calling for splitting up of Pakistan like this an abuse of Pakistan out of interest?

Pakistan and India both need to be broken up.
 
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https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/what...ate-country-hindi.564665/page-2#post-10580560

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/what...ate-country-hindi.564665/page-2#post-10580590

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/what...ate-country-hindi.564665/page-2#post-10580594

@PakSword

There is no technique per say. I am good at reading people.

No Muslim would outrightly defend Modi/BJP/RSS.

The other mistake he did was to tag @Nilgiri who is a Brahmin.

In difficult circumstances when we are cornered, we tend to trust our own kind (Brahmin in his case).

So it was an easy task.

He made a grave mistake by pretending to be a Sanghi Muslim from south.

He should have pretended to be a meo Muslim from haryana , Shia Muslim from North or a Ahmediya Muslim. Some people of these groups tend to be Sanghi. Not southern Muslims who eat beef freely without anybfear and idolize tipu sultan.

But the Shaka guys who trained him aren't that smart.

The idiot started hurling abuses and got more angrier after I called him.a Brahmin.

This guy is an easy nut to crack.
 
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well I personall think the dravidian south and vedic north are “civilisations apart”. a separate statehood should be given, only if the people of south really demand it..but come on.. it should never become China's state policy to back a separatist movement like that.
Well it is only about the moral support for the people. They have been suppressed under an dysfunctional union while India claims to a secular country but it uses the blanket of religion to unite. Dravidian people are culturally and ethnically very different from the North Indian people.
 
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I don't think it will lead to banning..

The guy is pretty consistent on his policy and concept, I have to hand it to him.

If he isn't outright attacking me as TamBram, it actually could be a good conversation.

But he is same ole same ole it seems when it comes to reactionary ad hominem....and misapplied emotional idealism....with little rational facts and logic.

Dravidian people are culturally and ethnically very different from the North Indian people.

Tell me what is about a good 80% of the poetry written in Tamil sangam + 3 dynasties era then based on if you are expert on it?
 
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The guy is pretty consistent on his policy and concept, I have to hand it to him.

If he isn't outright attacking me as TamBram, it actually could be a good conversation.

But he is same ole same ole it seems when it comes to reactionary ad hominem....and misapplied emotional idealism....with little rational facts and logic.
But you should counter him with facts..

I mean its a common knowledge that south earns more than north, but gets less than north.. if you have figures to counter him, please present..
 
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But you should counter him with facts..

I mean its a common knowledge that south earns more than north, but gets less than north.. if you have figures to counter him, please present..

If the audience also can first do the same regarding his position on Pakistan and China needing to be split up...I will be willing to follow on that.

I have participated in my fair share of these kind of threads, and it doesn't get anywhere productive....so maybe broadening the conversation in line with the OP's regional/global consistency on it can get somewhere different? I dunno.

As for your particular point that the South does better economically than the North, well so what? You are going to call for parts of Pakistan that are doing economically better than other parts to split away based on that?

Sticking to purely economic terms, there is huge reliance between North and South, East and West etc etc on supply/demand of goods. Why would the south be interested on seperating away from its largest market by far for its products (which would be similar argument for Pakistan richer/poorer parts)? I'm not even going to go into the cultural and historical connections....lets stick to economics purely if you want.
 
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But you should counter him with facts..

I mean its a common knowledge that south earns more than north, but gets less than north.. if you have figures to counter him, please present..
He has no facts to counter with.

When the south was struggling few decades the central government did not allocate them any extra funds. The people of south had to develop their states on own.

On other hand the free loading kind from the North has been getting doles for last 70 years.

The only industrialuzed region ie National Capital Region has been developed by the central government. The local state governments have no role to play it.

My question is what are these freeloading North Indian state governments and their people doing with money they are getting from western and sputhern India for so many years.
 
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Tell me what is about a good 80% of the poetry written in Tamil sangam + 3 dynasties era then based on if you are expert on it?
Mate, I never claimed to be an expert on the subject but just stating very basic facts obtained directly through observation. You can compare the physical features, language, ethnic composition, cultural traits of the Southern and Northern Indians and it will become self evident that both are very different except they share the religion but India was not found on religion or is it?
 
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@war&peace see this..

Hmm, they do. But not in the way you imagine. Not going deeper. But they do believe laa ilaha illaallah ya Muhammed rasoolullah (as an Ahmediya guy said). I myself don't consider them Muslims, but in India they are Muslims.

Kalima tou theek likh detey.. (At least you should have written it right).

When I pointed him out, he edited the kalima.. as in the below picture..

Still it is not written correctly..

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If the audience also can first do the same regarding his position on Pakistan and China needing to be split up...I will be willing to follow on that.

I have participated in my fair share of these kind of threads, and it doesn't get anywhere productive....so maybe broadening the conversation in line with the OP's regional/global consistency on it can get somewhere different? I dunno.

As for your particular point that the South does better economically than the North, well so what? You are going to call for parts of Pakistan that are doing economically better than other parts to split away based on that?

Sticking to purely economic terms, there is huge reliance between North and South, East and West etc etc on supply/demand of goods. Why would the south be interested on seperating away from its largest market by far for its products (which would be similar argument for Pakistan richer/poorer parts)? I'm not even going to go into the cultural and historical connections....lets stick to economics purely if you want.

He has no facts to counter with.

When the south was struggling few decades the central government did not allocate them any extra funds. The people of south had to develop their states on own.

On other hand the free loading kind from the North has been getting doles for last 70 years.

The only industrialuzed region ie National Capital Region has been developed by the central government. The local state governments have no role to play it.

My question is what are these freeloading North Indian state governments and their people doing with money they are getting from western and sputhern India for so many years.
Well you both have a point.. but I can't judge as I am not very knowledgeable on this subject..
 
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Mate, I never claimed to be an expert on the subject but just stating very basic facts obtained directly through observation.

Pakistanis look pretty ethnically diverse to me too and has an assortment of languages to boot as well....its not really an argument to apply to one and not the other.

Heck even Nepal has massive variances in appearances, languages, customs etc etc....but underlying connection to a root national culture is much more nuanced thing is it not?...certainly not something to micromanage the slippery slope argument of nationalism at some deeper than today resolution on.

There are threads in this forum about Indian muslims being labelled as all kind of words I will not repeat here, simply because they are not "resisting" the larger national/cultural matrix of today's India "enough" (as judged by non-Indians ironically).

Compared to that South Indians are "resisting" even tinier fraction of it, and you can find such "resistance" to "India" even among North Indian Hindus at various levels anyway... point is its statistically insignificant. Tamil and South Indian culture, just like Bengali, Marathi, North Eastern, Gangetic etc etc cultures have their buffer spaces to co-exist and be stable (example of there being how TN overall peacefully pushed for and got recognition of its own language to remain the sole dominant one in the state, rather than synthesizing Hindi into it)...there is no massive overriding pressure to conform and be micromanaged to a narrow authoritarian concept of "India" being concocted here.

Level of north indians living in South Indian cities and vice versa (and same for bengalis or pretty much anyone else) is a clear testament to that......just like that 80% of the cultural spring of Tamil Nadu itself is based largely on the saivite and alvar saints compositions for both the Vedic and Puranic matrices in Hinduism. The 20% "local" distinction is found in every region....and there is nothing really nationalistically attributed to it, especially in todays politics.

That doesn't stop people from trying to create and perpetuate new divisions from foreign sources/ideologies. @Gibbs for one can tell you the Vatican's role in the Tamil separatist movement that existed in Sri Lanka. But overall in South India, people are quite wary and attuned to these mischievous forces increasingly, especially the more they try to create something out of nothing....like some seem to have gone full on here to portray....and even calling for the same thing in Pakistan and China (which does mark a departure from the earlier presence of this argument for India only).
 
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Compared to that South Indians are "resisting" even tinier fraction of it, and you can find such "resistance" to "India" even among North Indian Hindus at various levels anyway... point is its statistically insignificant. Tamil and South Indian culture, just like Bengali, Marathi, North Eastern, Gangetic etc etc cultures have their buffer spaces to co-exist and be stable (example of there being how TN overall peacefully pushed for and got recognition of its own language to remain the sole dominant one in the state, rather than synthesizing Hindi into it)...there is no massive overriding pressure to conform and be micromanaged to a narrow authoritarian concept of "India" being concocted here.

Is it so? Then why did the central government repaint tamil signs with Hindi ones on national highways. Why did bengaluru and Chennai metro have hindi sign boards? Why do many national banks in south India use hindi and english only in their atms?

Most importantly why does the constitution state that a MP has to ask permission to speak in languages in other than English and Hindi in the parliament.

That doesn't stop people from trying to create and perpetuate new divisions from foreign sources/ideologies. @Gibbs for one can tell you the Vatican's role in the Tamil separatist movement that existed in Sri Lanka. But overall in South India, people are quite wary and attuned to these mischievous forces increasingly, especially the more they try to create something out of nothing....like some seem to have gone full on here to portray....and even calling for the same thing in Pakistan and China (which does mark a departure from the earlier presence of this argument for India only).
There is solid proof about pedophilia scandal in Vatican. Vatican supporting ltte is only a conspiracy.

Why do you conviently forget to mention that Indiab govt was traing and funding ltte at one point of time?

Hehe! So much for India does not separatist movements in other countries.

I can go one but you Brahmins are good at lying and manipulating people.

So I don't think you will accept your mistake.

Brahmins would be the biggest losers if India splits up. As Brahmins and their lieutants Banias have replaced thei british. India is your colony now.

So keep on manipulating facts.
 
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