What happens if South India(Dravida Nadu) becomes a separate country ? (Hindi)

[Nilgiri]

Well you both have a point.. but I can't judge as I am not very knowledgeable on this subject..

I guess it can only be really determined if you actually visit the place and query enough random people yourself on the subject.

Barring that, places where South Indian expats can be found in large numbers (like say Singapore etc) for their opinion.

Is it so? Then why did the central government repaint tamil signs with Hindi ones on national highways. Why did bengaluru and Chennai metro have hindi sign boards? Why do many national banks in south India use hindi and english only in their atms?

First of all pretty much every south indian state is fine with Hindi as official co-status except for TN (because of DK movement as you know).

And did I say it was 100% vs 0% absolute? Nope. Of course some Hindi is going to pop up. But where are you pulling this info that "only Hindi" ones were done for highway markers? You are so full of lies its a real waste of time:

http://www.newindianexpress.com/sta...l-nadu-will-no-longer-have-hindi-1713478.html

The policy was first English + Tamil.....it got changed to Hindi + Tamil for some markers (on new designated highways)...i.e Hindi was used instead of English.....and its now back to English + Tamil. There was never any hindi replacing tamil you complete utter dolt.

Most importantly why does the constitution state that a MP has to ask permission to speak in languages in other than English and Hindi in the parliament.

Because federally only Hindi and English are the official languages. Is this a hard thing to understand for you?

There is solid proof about pedophilia scandal in Vatican. Vatican supporting ltte is only a conspiracy.

Wait for @Gibbs @HeinzG @Godman to respond.

Why do you conviently forget to mention that Indiab govt was traing and funding ltte at one point of time?

It was completely shameful act, and you seem to have forgotten this was done (by Indira Gandhi) for the same DK parties that sprung from the south india seperation movement you espouse....to keep her coalition intact, esp after emergency and 1st period of non-congress rule federally.

It hurts you that your south india seperatists and LTTE were in bed together I guess? Both received plenty of Vatican funding, goading, doctrination etc etc....to split (to create typical soul-vulturing opportunity used globally) the dharma based majorities.

Hehe! So much for India does not separatist movements in other countries.

I said this somewhere? Which large population country has not ever supported separatist movements in other countries in history? India needs to be a shining beacon light of perfection for you and then only it gets to not be split up in your fantasy stronk thinking?

No wonder you cannot accept the basic unity of Pakistan or China either. BTW US also increasingly can be split up, have you seen how much the left and right there are creating real hate and chasms now? Why does it always have to ethnic, perceived cultural lines? You understand why it took forever for Germany to form...even with the H.R.E giving it a centuries-legacy earlier?

I can go one but you Brahmins are good at lying and manipulating people.

So I don't think you will accept your mistake.

Brahmins would be the biggest losers if India splits up. As Brahmins and their lieutants Banias have replaced thei british. India is your colony now.

So keep on manipulating facts.

Ad-hominem

Its good that you get to watch the reality for rest of your miserable life....and cling to pipe dream in desperation and die a dejected sad piece of crap.

 

[Nilu Pule]

Because federally only Hindi and English are the official languages. Is this a hard thing to understand for you?

Do you have a background in law? Do you have even read a basic book on India polity?

8th schedule of Indian constitution 22 official languages of India.

It's a misconception that only English and Hindi are the sole official languages.

You sanghi Brahmins can only fool the gullible.

First of all pretty much every south indian state is fine with Hindi as official co-status except for TN (because of DK movement as you know).

And did I say it was 100% vs 0% absolute? Nope. Of course some Hindi is going to pop up. But where are you pulling this info that "only Hindi" ones were done for highway markers? You are so full of lies its a real waste of time:

http://www.newindianexpress.com/sta...l-nadu-will-no-longer-have-hindi-1713478.html

The policy was first English + Tamil.....it got changed to Hindi + Tamil for some markers (on new designated highways)...i.e Hindi was used instead of English.....and its now back to English + Tamil. There was never any hindi replacing tamil you complete utter dolt.

If tamil nadu was given permission to have tamil as sole languags in their state. Why did the central govt indulge in such activities in Tamil Nadu??

Why does your hindi imposing government indulges in propoganda to make believe non ******** that Hindi is our national language?

Why does the central government indulge in hindi chauvinism and force hindi on non ********?

Do you even love tamil language or culture? Or you another Subramaniam Swamy like Brahmin snake in the grass?

 

[war&peace]

@war&peace see this..





When I pointed him out, he edited the kalima.. as in the below picture..

Still it is not written correctly..

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Well you both have a point.. but I can't judge as I am not very knowledgeable on this subject..

Well my doubts were not unfounded ... I have observed him for quite some time. You can easily guess who stands where after observing them.

 

[Nilgiri]

Do you have a background in law? Do you have even read a basic book on India polity?

8th schedule of Indian constitution 22 official languages of India.

It's a misconception that only English and Hindi are the sole official languages.

You sanghi Brahmins can only fool the gullible.

If tamil nadu was given permission to have tamil as sole languags in their state. Why did the central govt indulge in such activities in Tamil Nadu??

Why does your hindi imposing government indulges in propoganda to make believe non ******** that Hindi is our national language?

Why does the central government indulge in hindi chauvinism and force hindi on non ********?

Do you even love tamil language or culture? Or you another Subramaniam Swamy like Brahmin snake in the grass?

Lol you are just so stupid:

http://rajbhasha.nic.in/en/constitutional-provisions

Anyways carry on calling for China and Pakistan to be split up into pieces as well. Have fun little guy. I'll check in to respond to only smart guests in this thread henceforth.

 

[Nilu Pule]

Lol you are just so stupid:

http://rajbhasha.nic.in/en/constitutional-provisions

Anyways carry on calling for China and Pakistan to be split up into pieces as well. Have fun little guy. I'll check in to respond to only smart guests in this thread henceforth.

The Eighth Schedule to the Constitution of India lists the official languages of the Republic of India. At the time when the Constitution was enacted, inclusion in this list meant that the language was entitled to representation on the Official Languages Commission,[1] and that the language would be one of the bases that would be drawn upon to enrich Hindi, the official language of the Union.[2] The list has since, however, acquired further significance. The Government of India is now under an obligation to take measures for the development of these languages, such that "they grow rapidly in richness and become effective means of communicating modern knowledge".[3] In addition, a candidate appearing in an examination conducted for public service is entitled to use any of these languages as the medium in which he or she answers the paper.[4]


What an low iq inbred brahmin you are.

Don't lecture a guy on constitution who had dozens of lawyers in his family.

Run away with tail between your legs, when your lies get exposed.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_with_official_status_in_India

 

[war&peace]

Pakistanis look pretty ethnically diverse to me too and has an assortment of languages to boot as well....its not really an argument to apply to one and not the other.

Heck even Nepal has massive variances in appearances, languages, customs etc etc....but underlying connection to a root national culture is much more nuanced thing is it not?...certainly not something to micromanage the slippery slope argument of nationalism at some deeper than today resolution on.

There are threads in this forum about Indian muslims being labelled as all kind of words I will not repeat here, simply because they are not "resisting" the larger national/cultural matrix of today's India "enough" (as judged by non-Indians ironically).

Compared to that South Indians are "resisting" even tinier fraction of it, and you can find such "resistance" to "India" even among North Indian Hindus at various levels anyway... point is its statistically insignificant. Tamil and South Indian culture, just like Bengali, Marathi, North Eastern, Gangetic etc etc cultures have their buffer spaces to co-exist and be stable (example of there being how TN overall peacefully pushed for and got recognition of its own language to remain the sole dominant one in the state, rather than synthesizing Hindi into it)...there is no massive overriding pressure to conform and be micromanaged to a narrow authoritarian concept of "India" being concocted here.

Level of north indians living in South Indian cities and vice versa (and same for bengalis or pretty much anyone else) is a clear testament to that......just like that 80% of the cultural spring of Tamil Nadu itself is based largely on the saivite and alvar saints compositions for both the Vedic and Puranic matrices in Hinduism. The 20% "local" distinction is found in every region....and there is nothing really nationalistically attributed to it, especially in todays politics.

That doesn't stop people from trying to create and perpetuate new divisions from foreign sources/ideologies. @Gibbs for one can tell you the Vatican's role in the Tamil separatist movement that existed in Sri Lanka. But overall in South India, people are quite wary and attuned to these mischievous forces increasingly, especially the more they try to create something out of nothing....like some seem to have gone full on here to portray....and even calling for the same thing in Pakistan and China (which does mark a departure from the earlier presence of this argument for India only).

It is not about how convinced I'm or not but rather it depends on the people of the affected region i.e. South of India and they feel they are being economically repressed by the North and they can perform much better if they are independent. No external force and succeed until there is a popular support as we have seen that Pakistan easily smashed two terrorist / separatist movements in FATA and Baluchistan since there was no local support for it but in the south of India the grievances have been growing. For example they are under represented everywhere despite being the main earners.

 

[Nilgiri]

the south of India the grievances have been growing. For example they are under represented everywhere despite being the main earners.

Nah not really. Company heads? Media heads? Govt heads?...all are fairly represented....and like I said, the greater relative fiscal contribution is met pretty fairly by the large private market dynamics/access. Not only are south indian products sold to North India in large % to south indian total economy....but North India provides a growing significant labour pool for jobs no longer competitive for south indians because of the fertility rate now being as low as 1.6 (an example being construction, farm labour and specialised trades too). Last time I was down visiting my part of South India, a good number of restaurants had north indians and nepalis working as their staff for an example in services....because of the particular labour demand and supply situation now.

This is why strictly using govt fiscal imprint is of limited utility, given its only a fraction of the total monetary/economic flows going on....that are inextricably linked to the overall wellbeing and future prospect of the South and North.

 

[manlion]

He is aa Tamil Brahmin. These guys will be the biggest losers if Dravid Nad is formed.

Exploiting Scum like him will be shipped off to North India.

These Tam Brahmins are a vicious kind.

he is a sanghi [USER=178059]@SOUTHie[/user],a lost soul , with an identity crisis. Its true that Tambrahmins are anti Tamil sanghis, this loose nut isnt Tamil Iyer , sample what he wrote " inga paar. Pindikundi boys at it again... ithaippari ungal karuttu enna?" theres no such word inga or ithaipaari in Tamil so that should expose him.


PDF Northie sanghis pretend to be Southie with their broken Tamil

 

[Godman]

Wait for @Gibbs @HeinzG @Godman to respond.

Tamil Catholic Priests in the North tend to be extreme Pro-Eelamists. Even the Bishops in the North have expressed Pro-Eelam views

 

[manlion]

Tamil Catholic Priests in the North tend to be extreme Pro-Eelamists. Even the Bishops in the North have expressed Pro-Eelam views

moral/emotional support from church , financial support from Tamil (Diaspora) temples, initial logistic support Indian RAW

Using the church as scapegoat serves Aryan Brahmanist -Buddhist political agenda (i.e Hindutva - Buddhism chauvinism), to hold India responsible for training and arming LTTe would be a suicidal for Lankan politicians

Canada:Two Toronto Hindu Temples Fined By CRA For Sending Money To Suspected Tamil Tiger
https://www.colombotelegraph.com/in...-for-sending-money-to-suspected-tamil-tigers/

India gave birth to LTTE & Tamil militancy in Sri Lanka
http://www.sinhalanet.net/india-gave-birth-to-ltte-tamil-militancy-in-sri-lanka

 

[Dash]

What happens if South India(Dravida Nadu) becomes a separate country ? (Hindi)

Then all those who are spewing venom here will have ONE big BAMBOO up in their a$$ after they loose the status as Indian.

 

[大汉奸柳传志]

Hope you got it now @utp45

damn that's some big opinions...from some one who can only complain about budget issues on a forum -which is never a good ground for asking independence anyway.

From what I can see the southern states still have problems with each other.. I doubt they can even put up a united front, let alone fight for what they believe

That's why I think outsiders should never get involved in this. It's a lost cause. Maybe they just deserve to be ruled by vedic indians despite being glued together by the British in the fist place...I m sorry but moral support is only thing we can offer.. and not even that is guaranteed!

 

[Gibbs]

Wait for @Gibbs @HeinzG @Godman to respond.

It's a known fact that the majority of the LTTE leadership is was Christian including it's Theoretician Anton Balasingham and one of it's most influential overseas operators Rev FR Emmanuel.. The Church of Madras and the wider Catholic church were indeed openly and covertly supported the group.. The conflict had very little overtones of Hindu vs Buddhist, But it was linguistic supremacist agenda that stared in TN and then spilled over to Sri Lanka exploited by the Church

 

[Nilgiri]

theres no such word inga or ithaipaari in Tamil so that should expose him.

, why you overdo your use of google translate is quite stunning.

Anyone that is even a non-Tamil that has watched even ONE Tamil movie will have heard the words "inga"..."ithai/ithu" "paar/paaru" multiple times.

@SOUTHie is malayali so ok his conjugation of the verb can sound a little off sometimes, and the vocab choice can be different....but I have spoken Talayalam to him frequently here and other forums....and its not real issue if you know the variance of Tamil dialects within TN itself. Similar to how it works between the Scandinavian languages.

Definitely southie is infinitely better at Tamil compared to YOU who has time and time again shown:

a) you don't know one basic word of Tamil
b) thought Kannada script is Tamil @pothead
c) used that google translate nonsense with me and others a bunch of times (till you finally realised it shows you up as complete fake quite easily)
d) and even posted anti-LTTE video thinking its pro-LTTE (because of the english mislabel title haha)....because again you couldn't understand one single word of the actual content haha

A clear false fake flagger.....you are not tamil or even Indian, that much is very clear. Same goes for that kvpak clown...which is most likely just another account of yours....both dating back from the time in forum when flags need not be shown and allowed to continue with the garbage fakery (because of willing audience here for your soapbox antics).

@surya kiran...too bad rajaraja chola and Joe Shearer don't stop by anymore....they would laugh at this clueless overcompensating and desperate moron some more.

BTW @Hell hound @waz is there any way to take action against this repeated false fake identity person like was done against Tripti in BD subforum? I can prove very quickly if it hasn't been proven already (simply by say posting Tamil speech video here and ask this guy to tell us what it means in English).

Tamil Catholic Priests in the North tend to be extreme Pro-Eelamists. Even the Bishops in the North have expressed Pro-Eelam views

Yep spot on. Same antics are done inside TN too.

From what I can see the southern states still have problems with each other.. I doubt they can even put up a united front, let alone fight for what they believe

We believe we are Indians in the end...and yes we will fight for that.

An outsider view on it will never be good unless they actually visit the areas in question and talk to the people directly.

What are we to make of this regarding Southern China compared to Northern China? Should we extrapolate as the 100% reality?:

https://defence.pk/pdf/threads/amer...war-against-china.564015/page-4#post-10581668

Lot of juicy tidbits in that thread.

It's a known fact that the majority of the LTTE leadership is was Christian including it's Theoretician Anton Balasingham and one of it's most influential overseas operators Rev FR Emmanuel.. The Church of Madras and the wider Catholic church were indeed openly and covertly supported the group.. The conflict had very little overtones of Hindu vs Buddhist, But it was linguistic supremacist agenda that stared in TN and then spilled over to Sri Lanka exploited by the Church

Indeed my friend. Adding the religious part of it had to come from outside the dharmic envelope. It was lingual + ethnic etc originally....but this final religious dimension comes from a certain crusader mentality... it was much lesser of population scale compared to say the Taiping civil war in China that @Chinese-Dragon @Genesis and @Dungeness have talked about with me at some length and detail....but nonetheless about the same infliction on per capita basis I would say given SL population size.

To get "Hindu" Tamils to attack Buddhist places of pilgrimage/worship etc (which are often jointly revered places by hindus and buddhists to begin with)...requires a massive amount of brainwashing/indoctrination into the worst kind of fear and hate that only a system of beliefs that has no connection to Buddha/samsara/sangh at all could perpetrate.

It was very insidious how this was exploited by quarters of the Church like you mention. They saw that they would benefit in the long term by the utter chaos resulting from very much a Cain vs Abel situation being perpetrated countless times.

 

[Nilu Pule]

To get "Hindu" Tamils to attack Buddhist places of pilgrimage/worship etc (which are often jointly revered places by hindus and buddhists to begin with)...requires a massive amount of brainwashing/indoctrination into the worst kind of fear and hate that only a system of beliefs that has no connection to Buddha/samsara/sangh at all could perpetrate.

It was very insidious how this was exploited by quarters of the Church like you mention. They saw that they would benefit in the long term by the utter chaos resulting from very much a Cain vs Abel situation being perpetrated countless times.

@PakSword See this is how these Brahmins manipulate people.

This sly Brahman conviently forgets to mention his janeuadhari Brahmin Hindu King Pushyamitra Sunga murdered Buddhists and destroyed their holy places.