What halts India & Afghanistan from making peace with Pakistan?

[Tom M]

Pakistan is using cheap proxies, you're a funny dude. You love boosting about 1971 victory, where you were the one to use cheap proxies of mukti bhani and jumped into our internal matter. So who started these cheap tactics? After 1947 and 1965 shameful defeat of India by a much smaller nation made your country to start using these cheap tactics that you are using still today. Again, lack of balls plays a big role in it, and boosting about your coward act of jumping into our civil war isn't a victory. It only revealed your cowardness, and real face.

An Indian talking about a decent fight is funny af. When was the last time India gave Pakistan a "Decent Fight". Let me guess, in kargil we wiped your asses while your generals agree. Maybe in 2002 when India deployed its forces along the border, or maybe after Mumbai attack and the best decent fight you gave us was the recent surgical strikes lol. Come to me with facts dude

If you are so sure, then tell me one thing, who and what is stopping your most brave Pakistan army from liberating Kashmir from coward Indian's ?? After all we are illegal occupiers. Why where did your balls go in that case ??? For that you need real balls, not just plain chest thumping. LOL

 

[RazaGujjar]

If you are so sure, then tell me one thing, who and what is stopping your most brave Pakistan army from liberating Kashmir from coward Indian's ?? After all we are illegal occupiers. Why where did your balls go in that case ??? For that you need real balls, not just plain chest thumping. LOL

Sheer numbers. India has over 700k military personnel stationed in IOK. Which makes it the most heavily militarized area in the World. While Pakistan has about 550k active duty troops in TOTAL.

 

[Tom M]

Sheer numbers. India has over 700k military personnel stationed in IOK. Which makes it the most heavily militarized area in the World. While Pakistan has about 550k active duty troops in TOTAL.

So I'll put it simple. Pakistan army is simply too afraid to take on a much bigger force even after knowing that they are cowards, right mate.

 

[Shah_G]

If you are so sure, then tell me one thing, who and what is stopping your most brave Pakistan army from liberating Kashmir from coward Indian's ?? After all we are illegal occupiers. Why where did your balls go in that case ??? For that you need real balls, not just plain chest thumping. LOL

There are many factors that stops the liberation of Kashmir.
1. Your ability to harm innocent civilians in return.
2. Civilians causalities.
3. Our corrupt government.
4. Pakistan wants a peaceful way to the solution for greater regional peace.

Your army is indeed an illegal occupational force and thanks for admitting it. I think destroying your border posts a while back was enough to show your our left ball, now no one wants to join BSf. You and your country is nothing but a laughing stock around the world. Once we get rid of our corrupt government you'll see the signs of liberation of Kashmir by hook or crook. Laugh and amuse yourself as much as you can. You aren't aware of ground realities so its better to stay shut about something you have no clue about.

 

[Tom M]

There are many factors that stops the liberation of Kashmir.
1. Your ability to harm innocent civilians in return.
2. Civilians causalities.
3. Our corrupt government.
4. Pakistan wants a peaceful way to the solution for greater regional peace.

Your army is indeed an illegal occupational force and thanks for admitting it. I think destroying your border posts a while back was enough to show your our left ball, now no one wants to join BSf. You and your country is nothing but a laughing stock around the world. Once we get rid of our corrupt government you'll see the signs of liberation of Kashmir by hook or crook. Laugh and amuse yourself as much as you can. You aren't aware of ground realities so its better to stay shut about something you have no clue about.

LOL, I just loved your excuses, especially the 4th one. Peaceful way to the solution after initiating multiple wars for the same and failing to liberate Kashmir, huh ??

And FYI, neither India nor Pakistan had ever attacked each others civilians unnecessarily in the even of any war between us in the past let alone the general Kashmiri public, so your point 1 and 2 just doesn't stand.

 

[Shah_G]

LOL, I just loved your excuses, especially the 4th one. Peaceful way to the solution after initiating multiple wars for the same and failing to liberate Kashmir, huh ??

And FYI, neither India nor Pakistan had ever attacked each others civilians unnecessarily in the even of any war between us in the past let alone the general Kashmiri public, so your point 1 and 2 just doesn't stand.

So what? You want a Nuclear War between Pakistan and India so the whole of the region can get affected, and civilians to die of starvation.
Yeah multiple wars were fought to liberate Kashmir and best believe we would have if it wasn't for our corrupt leaders to bow down to UN when India faced clear defeat and ran to UN on multiple occasions.

Do you watch news? How many Kashmiri civilians were killed and blinded by Occupation forces in Kashmir. Also I am from Chamb sector which was taken away from India in 1965 a clear proof of victory. When Indians forces who are on Mountains and Pak forces on plain land exchange fire there which I have witnessed myself. Indians tend to hit the civilians more and In my aunt house theres still an artillery shell stuck on the tree from 97.

My grandfather came to Pakistan during 1965 war leaving land and property behind because Indian forces were going door to door and raping young women and killing men. What happened to your randi forces at that time? Why weren't they fighting man to man to Pak forces? So my point 1 and 2 is valid to the point.

 

[Tom M]

So what? You want a Nuclear War between Pakistan and India so the whole of the region can get affected, and civilians to die of starvation.
Yeah multiple wars were fought to liberate Kashmir and best believe we would have if it wasn't for our corrupt leaders to bow down to UN when India faced clear defeat and ran to UN on multiple occasions.

Do you watch news? How many Kashmiri civilians were killed and blinded by Occupation forces in Kashmir. Also I am from Chamb sector which was taken away from India in 1965 a clear proof of victory. When Indians forces who are on Mountains and Pak forces on plain land exchange fire there which I have witnessed myself. Indians tend to hit the civilians more and In my aunt house theres still an artillery shell stuck on the tree from 97.

My grandfather came to Pakistan during 1965 war leaving land and property behind because Indian forces were going door to door and raping young women and killing men. What happened to your randi forces at that time? Why weren't they fighting man to man to Pak forces? So my point 1 and 2 is very reasonable.

Whatever keeps your boat afloat.

I don't have time for your nonsense anymore. So please don't quote me again. Good day.

 

[Shah_G]

Whatever keeps your boat afloat.

I don't have time for your nonsense anymore. So please don't quote me again. Good day.

Yeah don't bring your nonsense here either. Keep it rolling

 

[ZenBird]

Not that simple mate. They don't want to leave THEIR land. Nor should any dark Indian living in dehli be able to force them.

I try my best to stay out of India/Pakistan debates but I wonder the same thing many times. My ancestors didn't want to leave Gujranwala where we'd lived forever since recorded history but we were forced to. IMO borders are useless and the common man is fleeced by the government anyway. I'll show myself out.

 

[lastofthepatriots]

I try my best to stay out of India/Pakistan debates but I wonder the same thing many times. My ancestors didn't want to leave Gujranwala where we'd lived forever since recorded history but we were forced to. IMO borders are useless and the common man is fleeced by the government anyway. I'll show myself out.

There were plenty of Sikhs that didn't leave. What would you say to them?

 

[ZenBird]

There were plenty of Sikhs that didn't leave. What would you say to them?

They made their choice, we didn't have one. My grandparents would have been killed if they stayed back.

 

[That Guy]

Basically this which means that with India it is far more easier to make peace. Infact since 1947 we have made considerable progress with India at some points and it looked almost like it was finally over however we have never made such a progress with Afghanistan. In fact Afghanistan exists only with a single purpose to destroy pakistan. That is the level of hatred they have. They have been burning in hatred ever since Pakistan was formed and they have tried everything to destroy Pakistan and in that process have destroyed the very fabric of their society and for the last 40 years Afghanistan has been broken with always under minimum two forms of govt. The Taliban in 1998 were the only ones that came close to uniting Afghanistan under a single banner with controlling 90%.

I said it before and I will say it again. We may one day have peace with India but we will never have peace with Afghanistan. They'd find their legitimacy in hating us. Infact war with Afghanistan is also inevitable bcz the day Afghanistan feels it can inflict any loss on us is the day they will attack.

I'd go so far as to say, if it looks like the Kabul regime may collapse, the ANA may launch a military campaign against Pakistan, as a last ditch effort to re-unite Afghanistan under their flag.