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What empire in history do Pakistanis look up too?

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I don't think any other Nation thinks along these lines though. Am yet to come across an Arab or Persian guy who is happy about the achievements of Sufi saints of the subcontinent. Heck, they're not even happy that you have the A-bomb.

Am yet to come across a Christian guy who said that any conquests done by Spain, Portugal, Italy, UK, France etc were Christian conquests over other religions. As for Indians, nobody gave a rat's @$$ to Nepal even though it was the only Hindu kingdom for a long time nor to Bali which has a Hindu majority.

Just an observation and not meant to hurt or inflame anyone. :cheers:

- There is a concept of Ummah in Islam. Looking from that perspective most Muslims take pride in all achievements of Muslims starting from the very beginning of Islam.

- Other then that we are greatly influenced by Islamic kingdoms of India and Afghanistan.

- I have yet to meet any Irani or Arab (and there are many where I am) who doesn't like us having the A- Bomb. Even if you meet some people like this they do not represent the common sentiment.

- Christians are Christians, Muslims are Muslims.
 
why dont we let chutiya jaakir bhai macca avatar valla answer his countrymen for once regarding the muslim history part?
not sure why hinudus dont asked the muxlum indian bretheren ( pls vists deli masjid or some place for a one to one questions) islamic questions of such nature.

you took words from my mouth :lol:

I was going to say the same to trev that it would make more sense to ask this question from Bhai zakir lol
 
I don't think any other Nation thinks along these lines though. Am yet to come across an Arab or Persian guy who is happy about the achievements of Sufi saints of the subcontinent. Heck, they're not even happy that you have the A-bomb.

Am yet to come across a Christian guy who said that any conquests done by Spain, Portugal, Italy, UK, France etc were Christian conquests over other religions. As for Indians, nobody gave a rat's @$$ to Nepal even though it was the only Hindu kingdom for a long time nor to Bali which has a Hindu majority.

Just an observation and not meant to hurt or inflame anyone. :cheers:

I cannot speak for others but for me my faith/belief is above everything else and whoever serve it correctly is my hero irrespective of his caste/colour/ethnic background/nationality. My faith also decide which cultural practices i can hold on and which ones i should give up

Some Muslims may do certain things which Islam dont preach but i try to follow what Islam teach and here it is

O mankind, We have created you from a male and a female and have made you into nations and tribes for you to know one another. Truly, the noblest of you with God is the most pious. Truly, God is All-Knowing, All-Aware.

My most beloved prophet(PBUH) was arab and these are his last words

{O people! Your God is one and your forefather (Adam) is one. An Arab is not better than a non-Arab and a non-Arab is not better than an Arab, and a red (i.e. white tinged with red) person is not better than a black person and a black person is not better than a red person except in piety
 
I normally see Pakistanis looking up too the various Arab and Central Asian empires however they have no real connection with Pakistani people. So who do you really look up too in your heritage.

"Delhi Sultanate"
 
This same question can be asked to North Indians. Why did they for centuries associate with Islamic culture?

Even the hindus.
 
Indians | Durrani Empire 2.0 Coming soon :azn:

Well for Pakistanis, take away the great Sikh King Ranjit Singh, and the great Hindu Kings like Raja Dahir and Porus, and you guys have either been ruled by Afghans, Iranians or Indians in your ENTIRE history :cheers:

Therefore, Durrani Empire is more likely to come to Pakistan, if you look at the map you yourself posted.
 
Yes the Indian Muslims are living proof of that. Logically speaking, any Muslim living in India/Pak/BD is the bastard child of a rape probably from the invaders. Hinduism back in the day had strict rules on daughters being disowned if they were raped, so many of them took the religion of their rapists once they were outcasted. This is because they didnt have a choice but to marry their rapists as no Hindu would have them back in the fold of Indians/Hinduism.



Wah sir...apart from the total dog sh!t that you post... please tell us who were giving their daughters to mughals?
 
Wah sir...apart from the total dog sh!t that you post... please tell us who were giving their daughters to mughals?

Daughters? Jodha was a one off rare case who had a power hungry dad and brother, and Akbar was not a Muslim but was the founder and follower of din-e-elahi, which was a hindu-ized form of Islam. Just like ahmedis, Akbar would probably be considered non-muslim by most Muslims today...
 
Daughters? Jodha was a one off rare case who had a power hungry dad and brother, and Akbar was not a Muslim but was the founder and follower of din-e-elahi, which was a hindu-ized form of Islam. Just like ahmedis, Akbar would probably be considered non-muslim by most Muslims today...

Haha ... you think only Akbar married a hindu woman? why dont you google.. after reading the stuff... slap yourself for me.
 
Yes the Indian Muslims are living proof of that. Logically speaking, any Muslim living in India/Pak/BD is the bastard child of a rape probably from the invaders. Hinduism back in the day had strict rules on daughters being disowned if they were raped, so many of them took the religion of their rapists once they were outcasted. This is because they didnt have a choice but to marry their rapists as no Hindu would have them back in the fold of Indians/Hinduism.

You quite clearly are result of Timur army rape, who proudly raped Hindu woman in their temples while stealing gold. Also Hindus have history of giving their daughters so they dont have to fight any more. :laughcry:
 
Daughters? Jodha was a one off rare case who had a power hungry dad and brother, and Akbar was not a Muslim but was the founder and follower of din-e-elahi, which was a hindu-ized form of Islam. Just like ahmedis, Akbar would probably be considered non-muslim by most Muslims today...

Haha ... you think only Akbar married a hindu woman? why dont you google.. after reading the stuff... slap yourself for me.

In our defence ..we Pakistani =BALUCH,PASHTUN,SINDHI,KASHMIRI,PANJABI,BALTISTANI have our own history... we arent a mongrel race like you so called "pure hindus" who wasted no time in giving your daughters for "weath or power" .. or whatever..
 
Daughters? Jodha was a one off rare case who had a power hungry dad and brother, and Akbar was not a Muslim but was the founder and follower of din-e-elahi, which was a hindu-ized form of Islam. Just like ahmedis, Akbar would probably be considered non-muslim by most Muslims today...

Jodha was not one rare case, Hindu rajputs were giving their daughters to please Mughals so they dont annihilate them. Only few married, most of them were given as prostitutes. lol
 
Yes the Indian Muslims are living proof of that. Logically speaking, any Muslim living in India/Pak/BD is the bastard child of a rape probably from the invaders. Hinduism back in the day had strict rules on daughters being disowned if they were raped, so many of them took the religion of their rapists once they were outcasted. This is because they didnt have a choice but to marry their rapists as no Hindu would have them back in the fold of Indians/Hinduism.

Educate yourself.

List of Sufi saints - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
 
Jodha was not one rare case, Hindu rajputs were giving their daughters to please Mughals so they dont annihilate them. Only few married, most of them were given as prostitutes. lol

I beg to differ not all of them were like tht...as for prostitutes thts BS.. but yes .. these internet hindus also forget while they were giving their daughters... even muslim rajputs like Abdullah Bhatti were resisting against mughals...


Another slap on internet hindus face.


He and his likes cant... they are fed on this BS ... its in their DNA.
 
Ghaznavi Empire for destroying Hindu Somnath 17 times over and raping Hindu kings left and right.

Other than that, Mughal Empire for showing Islams dominance over sheep religions like Sikhism and Hinduism. They made Rajputs and Jats, the virtually unconquerable, kiss Mughal leaders a$$!
 
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