Your buffonry on display is highly entertaining, irrespective where you live, thats what I can tell you.
Ah yes, good old ad hominem. The crutch of the incompetent and the dishonest.
425 billion in just income tax is nothing? You are not getting it at all.
Yes it's not. It translates to less than 6% of our budget. Especially when you consider that most of it is Corporate income tax. Hardly an amount keeping the country afloat. Refer to my post above.
Fraction of this sum reinvested in Karachi will go a long way in sorting the mess the city is in right now. Basic civic amenities. Like paved roads, severage (Karachi not becoming venice every monsoon), running water, decent public transport system, which will all eventually go in better running of city which mean better efficiency and better rutrns.
Why would it be reinvested in Karachi just like that when it belongs to the federal gov and in turn the entirety of Pakistan equally? You are somehow under the impression that the fed tax you pay belongs to you. It belongs to the State, i.e. every single Pakistani out there. There is a reason it is collected by the fed gov and not the provincial or city gov. Furthermore, as I have stated multiple times, local public transport, intracity roads, and basic amenities are not the fed gov's responsibility.
Sewage and local water supply are also not the fed gov's responsibility, however, given the sheer hazard they pose to the people of Karachi the fed gov absolutely needs to step in and allocate emergency funds to fix the issues.
Regardless of how much the sum is in greater scheme of things (which btw if you dwell down will make Karachi look like it's running Pakistan).
No. Not even close. Only in the infantile fantasies of a propagandist.
At grassroots levels, in any viable state, not banana republic, an average joe, you call the citizen, his contribution to state is through income tax.
The majority of the contributions to the state's revenue in Pakistan are through indirect taxes, tariffs, duties, and fees. Not from the measly amount paid as personal income tax by less than 1% of Pakistan's population.
So when he dwell in his neighbourhood knowing that others are doing fk all towards state, in their individual capacities, and enjoying better civic amenities then you are, then it becomes natural to question the sanity of those who are at the bigger picture, the state.
Again with the idiotic reasoning and self aggrandization. As is evident from my above post, that "dweller" is also "doing fk all" towards the state. More of it than others. He is just shouting his lungs out that he is not. On top of it, he is stupid enough to blame others for doing better for themselves through their own legitimate means by using whatever idiotic conspiracy theories he can conjure. Instead of holding his own elected officials responsible for his region's state of affairs he is blaming the state. The state allocates the provinces their share for a reason.
As for Lahore, leave us karachites out, ask southern Punjab what they think about the "Lahore development model". I feel like I am engaging a grunt.
Yeah says the guy whose first post in this thread openly implied that Lahore was stealing Karachi's funds. You are dishonest and disingenuous.
Your entire propaganda is based on moronic victimhood.
1) I will blame
you for
my state by using lies, twisted facts, and idiotic arguments
2) I will present false claims of superiority because that is all I have going for myself
3) I will reject all the facts you present because I don't want to admit them
4) When you call me out on them I will attack you by using 5th grade insults.
5) When they don't work I will claim you are biased and racist
6) When you refuse to entertain my garbage I will start crying and demand you leave me alone
So tell me Enistine, how much more tax karachites should be paying while rest of the countrymen are doing f all?
As has been abundantly showcased, Karachi is not paying anything above and beyond what it owes. In fact, it's paying less than that.
Why dont you northerners stop bitching about Karachi
..........are you soft in the head, bud? The northerners don't give two bits about your hissy fits. You and your city-mates have been whining and wailing about northern cities for pages now. Do you need professional help?
and do your duty as citizens of Pakistan and pay bloody taxes, whatever is due, small or big. The audacity!
You know you're not on stage, right? This is not a third rate soap?
I am talking to an infant.....
Rest assured, Karachi do not need certificate of approval from peasants,
"Peasants"......Wasn't your entire hissy fit about the fact that northern cities are cleaner and more developed than Karachi in pretty much every respect?
Anyway, the fact that you keep trying to convince us on your garbage claims determined that you are indeed desperate for our approval.
it's the only maga city in Pakistan and it look at the bigger picture.
Hate to break it to you, bub, but generally speaking a mega city is considered to be one with more than 10 million in population. Guess Lahore just couldn't let you have that meaningless title either. Oh the audacity! I'm sorry, I couldn't resist.
If karachi is allowed to decay at the rate it is, in greater scheme of things, state of Pakistan will suffer. In words of ex ISI cheif, Karachi on it's own is equal to three CPECs.
True.
And that's where the frustration comes that state while knowing the importance of Karachi is deliberately allowing the city to go down further in drain. No one is saying to transform Karachi into next Shanghai, just make the city livable with basic civic amenities.
The issue is that you blame that "going down the drain" on other Pakistanis, while still somehow claiming superiority. Your situation is of that man who gets angry every time he sees someone else with a thing he wants.
And rubbish, no one gives a flying fk to sindh government, karachi did not vote for these corrupt pets of establishment, they voted for the party of federation.
That is exactly how a democracy works. Doesn't matter if you don't like the results.
Right, did you actually read your own dribbles before copy pasting it ? Its more then decade old data. Here is relatively newer information, admittedly not recent.
Report warns that the UK’s public finances are increasingly dependent on taxes generated in London highlighting the need to make the most of the capital.
www.centreforcities.org
London generating 30% of UK ‘economy taxes’ – with serious implications for post-Brexit Britain
The report, ‘10 years of tax: how cities contribute to the national exchequer’ (published today), shows for the first time how levels of tax generation across Britain’s 62 cities have changed over a ten-year period (2004/5 – 2014/15).
It reveals that despite numerous policy initiatives from all major political parties aimed at rebalancing the economy, London still accounts for the lion’s share of the UK’s tax revenue. The capital generated just under 30% of the national ‘economy taxes’(1) in 2014/15 – an increase of 5 percentage points on its share of the national ‘economy tax’ intake in 2004/5. Over the entire ten year period, London accounted for 43% of the ‘economy tax’ generated in UK cities.
This briefing paper gives figures on the level of public spending in England, Scotland, Wales and Northern Ireland. It also gives figures for the English regions.
commonslibrary.parliament.uk
Does the age of the data in any way, shape, or form deny the fact that your claim that "the UK spends, compared to its other areas, more on London because of it's economic importance" is absolutely garbage? I gave that source because it was the only one explicitly comparing London's shares in the economy and funds.
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Considering London is pitted against the regions, it is still pretty decent spending.
Put it this way, economic hub of UK is not allowed to rot in extreme.
You do realize that
public spending = Central Gov spending +
Local Gov spending, right? Also that your source shows spending
per capita? Do you know what that means? Your own article states that the average spending per person in London is in fact below the average in UK. You deliberately left that part out, didn't you?
"In 2019-20, public spending per person in the UK as a whole was £9,895" Vs London's £9,350. In fact, public spending is the highest in Northern Ireland which has the
smallest economy of the regions in the UK.
The city accounts about half of the total collections of the
Federal Board of Revenue (Karachi contributes 55 percent, Islamabad 16 percent, and Lahore 15 percent), around
2875 billions.
Collections? Sure. Generation? Not at all.
Karachi produces about 30 percent of value added in large-scale manufacturing
25% of the GDP
Do you know what "value added" and "GDP" mean?
Also you can't pick and choose figures according to your liking. The same article which states the 30 percent value addition puts the
GDP at 20%. Just trying to make your dishonesty obvious.
AND what it receive in return:
125 billion in last year budget. (4.35% of what it contributes to national revenue).
Lol. Karachi does not contribute 2.876 Trillion to the national revenue, as has been already clarified at least half a dozen times by various members. You're a blind broken record.
Also, national budget allocation does not care who contributes what. They contribute the amounts that they
owe the federation. It is divided, largely, on a per capita bases.
Is it enough for basic sustenance of the only mega city of Pakistan?
Seems like it,
Mayor presents surplus budget.
Since 2007 we have 5 prime ministers and all are from Punjab fortunately for punjab and unfortunately for others. It is good to see militarily bearucracy agencies likes punjab and supporting its progress but please look at other provinces and specially at karachi because this is our financial hub.
Another dishonest argument.
Firstly, Raja Pervaiz Ashraf is from Sanghar, Sindh. Secondly, two out of those 5 prime ministers were puppets and direct appointees of the actual head of state, President Asif Ali Zardari, who himself was born in Karachi.
Interestingly, every single one of the Presidents since 1999 have been from Karachi. 2 of them were the actual heads of the state, i.e. Musharraf and Zardari with a non-stop cumulative time of 14 years ruling the country.
Dont repeat what you did with Bengalis. Look at them now they are spitting and pissing on you.
..............You don't wanna go there, bud.
