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What ancient India really discovered and invented!

You can re-read the link you yourself provided. Okay let me make it easy for you. Here I quote the text from your link....

"In the 12th century, Latin translations of his work on the Indian numerals introduced the decimal positional number system to the Western world...
He is often considered one of the fathers of algebra"

He was not THE father of Algebra. He was considered to be 'one of the fathers'. Khwarizmi was instrumental in introduction of Oriental mathematics to the Western World. It doesn't mean that he created it.

Consider Bramhagupta, the Indian mathematician, who was born two centuries before Khwarizmi. You can read about his work on Algebra, General Mathematics using Zero and Astronomy. His works were taken by Abbassid Caliph Al-Mansoor in early 8th Century to his newly founded centre of learning at Baghdad on the banks of the Tigris, providing an important link between Indian mathematics and astronomy and the nascent upsurge in science and mathematics in the Islamic world, specifically by Khwarizmi.

Here are the links:
http://www.storyofmathematics.com/indian_brahmagupta.html
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brahmagupta



It wasn't, so don't bother debating.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad_ibn_Musa_al-Khwarizmi

Interesting thread, keep it up :tup:
 
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Ahem, light year is not a measurement of time, but distance. That abolishes point 2.
 
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Ahem, light year is not a measurement of time, but distance. That abolishes point 2.

It is a matter of perspective. To the astronomer chronicling the vast distances between stars and galaxies and galaxy clusters, light year is a unit of distance. To another astronomer charting the origin of galaxies, the universe, light year becomes essentially a unit of time. Every light year further out is a year into the past, or more correctly, an after-image of the past.

We understand from the surviving manuscripts that ancient Indian thinkers were obsessed with the phenomenal lengths of time, the age of the universe. That would reliably imply that light year would be looked at more as a unit of time than distance.

Of course all of this is conjecture; we do not have evidence to indicate that the ancient Indians viewed light as the universal speed limit. However, a disproportionate amount of philosophical intellect was expended in understanding the lengths of time, from nano seconds to something like trillion trillion years. Why?
 
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It is a matter of perspective. To the astronomer chronicling the vast distances between stars and galaxies and galaxy clusters, light year is a unit of distance. To another astronomer charting the origin of galaxies, the universe, light year becomes essentially a unit of time. Every light year further out is a year into the past, or more correctly, an after-image of the past.

We understand from the surviving manuscripts that ancient Indian thinkers were obsessed with the phenomenal lengths of time, the age of the universe. That would reliably imply that light year would be looked at more as a unit of time than distance.

Of course all of this is conjecture; we do not have evidence to indicate that the ancient Indians viewed light as the universal speed limit. However, a disproportionate amount of philosophical intellect was expended in understanding the lengths of time, from nano seconds to something like trillion trillion years. Why?

You are absolutely right and also partially wrong.

Ancient India had already figured our that Time is the only real measure of anything and this was Thousands of years before Einstein.

Anyone who has read Indian Astronomy or Astrology or Religion or Architecture or Art form will know this to be true.

The frequently misquoted verse from the Gita says, (assigned to Oppenheimer) where he is supposed to have said "behold, now I am death, destroyer of worlds" actually says,

"kaalo smi loka-ksaya-krt pravrddho" which really means "I am TIME the all powerful, destroyer of all the worlds."

In Vastu and Hindu Architecture, the UNIT of Space is measured in Unit of Time.

Its just that in the vastness of the Universe, distance is measured in Time, and the scale is Light. Most people just misunderstand that to think distance is measured in light, it is NOT.

The smallest unit of time or distance was 'Nimesha' i.e. 'twinkle of an eye'. Another unit of distance was 'Yojana'. This too was measured w.r.t the speed of light i.e. distance covered in time.

The Rg Veda says,

"Yojananam Dwe Dwe Shate Dwe Cha Yojane Aken Nimishardhena Krammana Namostute "

which means, "We salute the fact that Sunlight moves 2202 Yojanas in half Nimisha."

The measurement of Nimisha is given in the Srimad Bhagvata,

15 Nimisha = 1 Kashtha
30 Kashth = 1 Kaal ( 30 * 15 Nimisha = 450 Nimisha)
30 Kaala = 1 Muhurta ( 450 * 30 Nimisha = 13500 Nimisha)
30 Muhurta = 1 Ahoratar ( 13500 * 30 Nimisha = 405000 Nimisha)
1 Ahoratra = 1 Day (24 Hours)

So that makes 1/2 Nimisha = 0.114286seconds

1 Yojana is approximately equal to 9 miles.

So that gives the Speed of Light as per the Rg Veda as 1,85,016.169 miles/second.

Now compare that to the Modern known speed of light which is 1,86,282.397 Miles / second.


It is safe to say that we do have evidence to indicate that the ancient Indians viewed light as the universal speed limit and used it to measure distance and time.
 
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8. High-quality steel

Ancient India’s expertise is metallurgy is reiterated in the form of its architecture marvels. It was said that as early as 200 BC, high quality steel was being produced in India, through what the Europeans would call as the crucible technique.

William James Durant, an American writer, historian, and philosopher writes in his famous book, The Story of Civilization, “Something has been said about the chemical excellence of cast iron in ancient India, and about the high industrial development of the Gupta times, when India was looked to, even by Imperial Rome, as the most skilled of the nations. By the sixth century the Hindus were far ahead of Europe in industrial chemistry; they were masters of calcinations, distillation, sublimation, steaming, fixation, the production of light without heat, the mixing of anesthetic and soporific powders, and the preparation of metallic salts, compounds and alloys. The tempering of steel was brought in ancient India to a perfection unknown in Europe till our own times.”

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It was in the morning that I forwarded a post on "DRUV STAMBHA" or Qutub Minar.
Should I post it here?
 
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8. Radio/Wireless Communication: Guglielmo Marconi has for long been credited as the inventor of wireless radio communication. He subsequently received the 1909 Nobel Prize in Physics for contributions to the development of wireless telegraphy.

The first public demonstration of the use of radio waves for communication, however, was made by an Indian scientist, Jagadish Chandra Bose. Bose first demonstrated the use of radio in Calcutta, in 1895, two years before a similar demonstration by Marconi in England. More than a century after the feat, Bose has been belatedly credited for his achievement.

Bose's revolutionary demonstration forms the foundation of the technology used in mobile telephony, radars, satellite communication, radios, television broadcast, WiFi, remote controls and countless other applications that play a central role in our daily lives.

The world famous Bose Brand

It's true that wireless radio communication was first invented by an Indian scientist Sir Jagadish Chandra Bose, but he didn't rush to take the patent, and missed the well deserving Nobel prize. But his work was later recognized. He was also the one who first discovered that plants have life. :)

But the founder of audio system brand "Bose Corporation" is Amar Gopal Bose, he is also an Indian Bengali like Sir Jagadish Chandra Bose, but they are not the same person or related.

Btw, there is another famous Indian Bengali mathematician Satyendra Nath Bose, the "God Particle" or "Higgs Boson" particle that the scientists in CERN are searching is named after him for his work in that field. :)
 
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What ancient India really discovered and invented!
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The debate on the achievements of ancient India in science and technology continues unabated. There have been assertions, some seemingly outlandish, and counter-assertions. For instance, Union minister of science and technology, Dr Harsh Vardhan’s statement that the Pythagoras theorem and algebra were ancient India’s contribution was pooh-poohed as stretching the facts. Is it really so? Or, is their something in the contentions? We bring you the contribution of the ancient Indians – the ones acknowledged and beyond reproach. Take a peek!

1. The age of the earth

An early metrical work of Hinduism, Manusmriti, calculates the age of the earth as described in two verses where the age of earth is made in reference to the life span of Brahma. (Brahma is revered as the god of creation in Hinduism).

Professor Arthur Holmes, a geologist and a professor at the University of Durham writes in his book, The Age of Earth (1913), “Long before it became a scientific aspiration to estimate the age of the earth, many elaborate systems of the world chronology had been devised by the sages of antiquity. The most remarkable of these occult time-scales is that of the ancient Hindus, whose astonishing concept of the earth’s duration has been traced back to Manusmriti, a sacred book.“

In the 5th century, the ancients Indians had stated that the earth was 4.3 billion years as compared to the Europeans who believed that our planet was about 100 million years old. But modern science has calculated the age of the earth to be about 4.6 billion years, incredibly close to the 4.3 predicted by the ancients almost 15 centuries earlier.

Today, scientists across the world believe that the solar system and the earth is about 4.54 billion years, deciphered by the radiometric reading.

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2. Concept of relativity

Alan Watts, a professor, graduate school dean and research fellow of Harvard University, drew heavily on the insights of Vedanta. He said, "To the philosophers of India, however, Relativity is no new discovery, just as the concept of light years is no matter for astonishment to people used to thinking of time in millions of kalpas - A kalpa is about 4,320,000 years.”

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3. Trigonometry and optics

Varāhamihira, an astronomer, mathematician, and astrologer, of the 5th century defined the concepts of refraction and reflection. He also defined the algebraic properties of zero as well as of negative numbers. A L Basham, an Australian Indologist, writes in his book, The Wonder That was India, "The world owes most to India in the realm of mathematics, which was developed in the Gupta period to a stage more advanced than that reached by any other nation of antiquity.”

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4. Discovery of gravity

More than 5,000 year-old, Rig Veda stated through verses that the gravitational force held the universe together and the sun was at the center of the universe; thousands of years before Newton and Copernicus discovered it. This finding is supported by an American writer, Dick Teresi, in his book – Lost Discoveries. The book is a comprehensive study of the ancient non-western foundations of modern science.

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5. Pythagoras theorem

It was ancient Indian mathematician Baudhāyana who wrote about a theorem similar to the modern Pythagoras theorem in the book Baudhāyana Śulbasûtra in 800 BC. The book is also said to be the oldest books on advanced mathematics. It is also speculated that Pythagoras travelled extensively and even visited India, after which he is said have revealed the Pythagoras theorem. In a six-page essay on the book written by Kim Plofker, Mathematics in India, ( a western historian of mathematics), Brown University Mathematician, David Mumford, writes, “There is the use of Pythagoras’ famous theorem in the construction of pillars in India, some centuries before the Greek philosopher is said to have postulated it.”

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6. The zero

The so called Arabic numerals and positional decimal numeral system, originated in India. However, it was popularized by the Arabs, who later took it to the west. The superiority of this number system stems from the fact that the roman numerals did not have a zero, making it difficult to carry out mathematical calculations. It was Aryabhata, who is said to have discovered zero and clearly defined the usage of decimal system. He names the first 10 decimal places and gives algorithms for obtaining square and cubic roots, utilizing the decimal number system. Marquis Pierre Simon de Laplace, an 18th century French mathematician, philosopher, and astronomer, stated, “It is India which gave us the ingenious method of expressing all numbers by 10 symbols.”

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7. Cotton fabric

The fibre that clothes the modern world, finds its mention in a Rig Veda hymn as “threads in the loom.” Historians also believe that when Alexander invaded India, his soldiers found the new fabric, cotton, much more comfortable that the traditional leather and wool that they were used to. They then popularized the fabric in ancient Europe. Herodotus, an ancient Greek historian, describes Indian cotton as "a wool exceeding in beauty and goodness that of sheep.”

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Add to that: Calculus, the decimal system, algebra and algorithm, square root and cube root. :)

Do you believe these? Or are they just selective interpretations?

Indian astronomers knew that earth is spherical and all the planets revolve around the sun, these are written texts. :) They also discovered:
  • The calculation of occurrences of eclipses
  • Determination of Earth's circumference
  • Theorizing about the theory of gravitation
  • Determining that sun was a star and determination of number of planets under our solar system
 
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It's true that wireless radio communication was first invented by an Indian scientist Sir Jagadish Chandra Bose, but he didn't rush to take the patent, and missed the well deserving Nobel prize. But his work was later recognized. He was also the one who first discovered that plants have life. :)

But the founder of audio system brand "Bose Corporation" is Amar Gopal Bose, he is also an Indian Bengali like Sir Jagadish Chandra Bose, but they are not the same person or related.

Btw, there is another famous Indian Bengali mathematician Satyendra Nath Bose, the "God Particle" or "Higgs Boson" particle that the scientists in CERN are searching is named after him for his work in that field. :)


Yes The name/word "Boson" itself is the tribute to the contributions of Satyendra Nath Bose.

 
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Add to that: Calculus, the decimal system, algebra and algorithm, square root and cube root. :)



Indian astronomers knew that earth is spherical and all the planets revolve around the sun, these are written texts. :) They also discovered:
  • The calculation of occurrences of eclipses
  • Determination of Earth's circumference
  • Theorizing about the theory of gravitation
  • Determining that sun was a star and determination of number of planets under our solar system
I understand the geometry part and cosmology to some extent also....but Relativity or calculating Earth's age or speed of light seems a bit far fetched for people of that time.
 
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We are talking about ancient discoveries and invention then How can you forget about Teja the star fighter:lol:..
 
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